Thread: [Flashforth-devel] FF3.8 MPLABX

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Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it
somewhere for download?

Thank you very much
Thomas

On 02/12/2014 04:38 PM, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
Thomas,
This is the first message I have seen from you.

If you pull the latest FF 5.0 from git there is a MPLABX file there.
Can you use FF 5.0 ?
Mikael

> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it 
> somewhere for download?
>
> Thank you very much
> Thomas
>
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On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it 
> somewhere for download?
>
> Thank you very much
> Thomas
Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it on 
my Linux machine.

http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz

There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of lines 
that
I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell MPLAB-X
to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)

Peter Jacobs

Peter,

Builds perfectly my machine. Quick question, advantage of PIC18F2520 
over PIC18F2550 for Flash Forth (no USB)?

R.

Quoting Peter Jacobs <pe...@me...>:

> On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
>> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
>> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it
>> somewhere for download?
>>
>> Thank you very much
>> Thomas
> Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it
> on my Linux machine.
>
> http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz
>
> There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of lines that
> I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell MPLAB-X
> to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)
>
> Peter Jacobs
>
>

For some of my applications I want the microcontroller to give it's full 
attention to the incoming signals and not direct resources to the USB 
connection.  So, yes, having no USB can be an advantage.

Also, I wanted a system documented for teaching/undergrad thesis 
projects.  The PIC18F2520 more closely matched the available text books 
and the students (and I) are less likely to do damage with the RS232 
connection than with the bare USB port, I believe.

Peter J.

On 13/02/14 06:53, Young, Randall Shane wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Builds perfectly my machine. Quick question, advantage of PIC18F2520 
> over PIC18F2550 for Flash Forth (no USB)?
>
> R.
>
>
> Quoting Peter Jacobs <pe...@me...>:
>
>> On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
>>> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
>>> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it
>>> somewhere for download?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much
>>> Thomas
>> Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it
>> on my Linux machine.
>>
>> http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz 
>>
>>
>> There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of 
>> lines that
>> I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell 
>> MPLAB-X
>> to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)
>>
>> Peter Jacobs
>>
>>
>
>
>

I forgot to say that most of the projects are eventually stand alone,
powered by batteries or plug-pack.  Being able to connect the RS232
when we want to make an adjustment and then being able to
disconnect, leaving the device running, is another advantage
of the old-school-232 connection over the USB connection.

Peter J.

On 13/02/14 08:01, Peter Jacobs wrote:
> For some of my applications I want the microcontroller to give it's full
> attention to the incoming signals and not direct resources to the USB
> connection.  So, yes, having no USB can be an advantage.
>
> Also, I wanted a system documented for teaching/undergrad thesis
> projects.  The PIC18F2520 more closely matched the available text books
> and the students (and I) are less likely to do damage with the RS232
> connection than with the bare USB port, I believe.
>
> Peter J.
>
>
>
> On 13/02/14 06:53, Young, Randall Shane wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Builds perfectly my machine. Quick question, advantage of PIC18F2520
>> over PIC18F2550 for Flash Forth (no USB)?
>>
>> R.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Peter Jacobs <pe...@me...>:
>>
>>> On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
>>>> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
>>>> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it
>>>> somewhere for download?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much
>>>> Thomas
>>> Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it
>>> on my Linux machine.
>>>
>>> http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz
>>>
>>>
>>> There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of
>>> lines that
>>> I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell
>>> MPLAB-X
>>> to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)
>>>
>>> Peter Jacobs
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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P.,

Thanks you for your well considered comments.

Also thanks for your wonderful tutorials, they are so valuable as 
learning tools! I'm studying ...

Microprocessors: From Assembly Language to C Using the PICI8FXX2 (Da 
Vinci Engineering) Robert B. Reese (Author)

And I see what you mean about closer correspondence with existing 
texts. I think he uses a PIC18F4520 for most his examples.

Best,

Randy

Quoting Peter Jacobs <pe...@me...>:

> I forgot to say that most of the projects are eventually stand alone,
> powered by batteries or plug-pack.  Being able to connect the RS232
> when we want to make an adjustment and then being able to
> disconnect, leaving the device running, is another advantage
> of the old-school-232 connection over the USB connection.
>
> Peter J.
>
>
> On 13/02/14 08:01, Peter Jacobs wrote:
>> For some of my applications I want the microcontroller to give it's full
>> attention to the incoming signals and not direct resources to the USB
>> connection.  So, yes, having no USB can be an advantage.
>>
>> Also, I wanted a system documented for teaching/undergrad thesis
>> projects.  The PIC18F2520 more closely matched the available text books
>> and the students (and I) are less likely to do damage with the RS232
>> connection than with the bare USB port, I believe.
>>
>> Peter J.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/02/14 06:53, Young, Randall Shane wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Builds perfectly my machine. Quick question, advantage of PIC18F2520
>>> over PIC18F2550 for Flash Forth (no USB)?
>>>
>>> R.
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Peter Jacobs <pe...@me...>:
>>>
>>>> On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
>>>>> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
>>>>> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it
>>>>> somewhere for download?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much
>>>>> Thomas
>>>> Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it
>>>> on my Linux machine.
>>>>
>>>> http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of
>>>> lines that
>>>> I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell
>>>> MPLAB-X
>>>> to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)
>>>>
>>>> Peter Jacobs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>

On 02/13/2014 12:17 AM, Peter Jacobs wrote:
> I forgot to say that most of the projects are eventually stand alone,
> powered by batteries or plug-pack.  Being able to connect the RS232
> when we want to make an adjustment and then being able to
> disconnect, leaving the device running, is another advantage
> of the old-school-232 connection over the USB connection.
>
> Peter J
Hi,
Actually you can unplug the USB and the PIC still keeps on running.
The USB transceiver is still on so battery consumption could be the issue.

I have been thinking of including a USB sense input option in FF to sense
if the power is coming via USB, but that requires some hardware support.
Then the USB tranceiver could be powered down.

Another alternative could be to power down the USB interface
in warm start if there has been no signals from the USB interface for a 
while.

BR Mikael

Peter,
Where is the case option in MPLABX ?
I have not found it, well I did not even look :-)

Mikael

On 02/12/2014 09:21 PM, Peter Jacobs wrote:
> On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
>> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
>> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it 
>> somewhere for download?
>>
>> Thank you very much
>> Thomas
> Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it 
> on my Linux machine.
>
> http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz
>
> There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of 
> lines that
> I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell MPLAB-X
> to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)
>
> Peter Jacobs
>
>
>
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> Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more.
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With the project open, follow the menu system to a check box.

File -> Project Properties -> Conf -> mpasm (Global Options) -> mpasm -> 
general -> enable case sensitivity

PJ

On 13/02/14 14:22, Mikael Nordman wrote:
> Peter,
> Where is the case option in MPLABX ?
> I have not found it, well I did not even look :-)
>
> Mikael
>
> On 02/12/2014 09:21 PM, Peter Jacobs wrote:
>> On 13/02/14 00:38, Thomas Buschhardt wrote:
>>> Is this form actrive? I send a mail last week but dont see this.
>>> If anyone has a MPLABX project of FF3.8 - its possible to upload it
>>> somewhere for download?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much
>>> Thomas
>> Here is a tar-file of one of my work areas, exactly as I had used it
>> on my Linux machine.
>>
>> http://dropbox.eait.uq.edu.au/e4pjacob/flash-forth/ff381-2520-nov-2013.tar.gz
>>
>> There's even a Mercurial repository in there to show the couple of
>> lines that
>> I changed in the source code because I wasn't smart enough to tell MPLAB-X
>> to be case insensitive.  I've since found that option :)
>>
>> Peter Jacobs
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Android apps run on BlackBerry 10
>> Introducing the new BlackBerry 10.2.1 Runtime for Android apps.
>> Now with support for Jelly Bean, Bluetooth, Mapview and more.
>> Get your Android app in front of a whole new audience.  Start now.
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=124407151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>>
>>
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