From: Leyne, S. <sl...@at...> - 2001-04-20 14:42:24
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Aleksey, I'm sorry about this, but I don't follow your reply. Who do you agree with, Mark "v0.9-5Beta1" or myself "v1.0Preview1"? Sean -----Original Message----- From: Aleksey Karyakin [mailto:kar...@cm...] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:24 AM To: fir...@li... Subject: Re: [Firebird-devel] RE: [Firebird-admin] New incremental version of Firebird. Absolutely agree, As Mark says, main reason for maintaining 0.9.x numbering would be need for further testing. But it would be quite strange if major version number changes from zero to one just because of (possible) bugs fixed while functionality still remains the same. IMHO, current code ststus is "feature-complete" and should has version number equal to final release version. In fact, it has the same degree of stablility than corresponding Borland's counterpart, which in its turn has the integral version number. Also, I would vote for releasing version 1.0 with current functionality after quality "certification" (sorry for B's terminology :) phase, than waiting indefinite period for suggested-to-implement new features and enhancements. Postponing release is acceptable only if there is agreed specification for fonctionality to be implemented. Otherwise it is likely to never reach release point. The fact become true, that Firebird is production-use ready should be formally confirmed. Just $0.02. Regards, Aleksey Karyakin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leyne, Sean" <sl...@at...> To: <fir...@li...>; "Firebird-Dev (E-mail)" <fir...@li...> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 5:53 PM Subject: [Firebird-devel] RE: [Firebird-admin] New incremental version of Firebird. > Mark, > > Please, please, please reconsider. > > I thought that it was agreed that the 0.9 release would reflect the > initial FB release based on the originally release IB source code, plus > the appropriate changes necessary to address the compile and operations > bugs which were embodied in that 'quality' release. > > Additionally, the v1.0 release was going to be the first release in > which we, as a group, would start 'spreading our wings' and adding new > functionality. > > To my mind, the v1.0 has started! The work which yourself (when you get > to it <grin>), Mike Nordell, Ann and I did in the new 64bit I/O > functionality as well as the support for 16kb page sizes, does represent > albeit a small step towards the delivery of the v1.0 product. We should > not be afraid to say that. > > To call the next build "v0.9" only deprecates the work which we are > doing, and sends a message to the rest of the IB/FB community that we > don't have much self confidence. It also continues the impression > within the community that FB is "not ready for prime time". > > We need to start thinking about some of these things not as developers > but as marketers. We don't need to go as far as Borland does with their > hype of their "certification" process but we should not be > ultra-conservative either. > > Yes! Yes! Yes, we need to clearly state the nature of the feature set > and the current testing stage, but that is what a "Preview" or "Beta" > process is all about. Calling the next build "v1.0" does not mean that > it has been certified or is the final release. > > But we also need to start playing up our strengths! The fact that we > are have announced and are moving forward with new features and that we > address bugs at a much faster rate than IB is something which we should > be shouting and showing every time we get. > > I would really appreciate hearing the opinions of the others in the > group. > > > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark O'Donohue [mailto:mar...@lu...] > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:34 AM > To: fir...@li...; > fir...@li...; ib...@eg...; > ib-...@eg... > Subject: [Firebird-admin] New incremental version of Firebird. > > > Hi All > > Im fairly happy with the classic firebird build incorperating all the > current changes and its run through the tcs test suite and some of my > own tests. And super is also pretty close. So I think it's time we go > up a minor version step. We'll call this one a Firebird 0.9.5 Beta1. > > I don't want a 1.0 version yet, since we need to do some stress and > volume testing first (sorry Sean). But that should not be too far > away. I think someone pitched June as a release date for 1.0, that > sounds a fair guestimate, although as they also pointed out, timelines > are dificult when you are talking about donated time. > > The main issue is testing, so if any happy person/company/potential > reseller/whoever wants to speed that process up and consequently get > the advantage of all our good works, by perhaps paying for someone to > help out (I even have the odd candidate handy) it would be very much > appreciated (please rush personal email to me :-). > > I will increment the version number, and open a new sourceforge release > directory for it. I think I have made anyone who needs it a "release > manager" so they can put their files there. If anyone wants to access > them or wants help just email firebird-devel or me. > > A build and successful run through the tcs test suite is the > requirements to get into the release. > > The only issue to resolve is naming conventions for the download files. > > The 0.9-4 is fairly confusing, since many of the names (ie the linux rpm > > ones) don't contain the platform and are confusing when placed alongside > > other hardware versions. > > Any suggestions welcome (see current confused scheme at:) > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9028&release_id=19 > 364 > > > Cheers > > Mark > > -- > Your database needs YOU! > http://firebird.sourceforge.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Firebird-admin mailing list > Fir...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-admin > > _______________________________________________ > Firebird-devel mailing list > Fir...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel > _______________________________________________ Firebird-devel mailing list Fir...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-devel |