Re: [Firebird-devel] Error message 'Install incomplete' in FB4

[Alex P. <pes...@ma...>]

On 2020-05-28 12:37, Mark Rotteveel wrote:
> On 2020-05-28 11:22, Alex Peshkoff via Firebird-devel wrote:
>> On 2020-05-28 12:06, Dimitry Sibiryakov wrote:
>>> 28.05.2020 00:35, Adriano dos Santos Fernandes wrote:
>>>> It's more confusing to have a "functional" security database without
>>>> users
>>>
>>>   No SRP users doesn't also mean no legacy or SSPI users.
>>>
>>
>> Certainly, but in this case the best solution is to remove SRP plugin
>> from configuration.
>>
>>> Possibility to work without SYSDBA account is a feature not bug.
>>>
>>
>> Definitely.
>>
>> But - users who know how (and what for) to use such specific ways of
>> managing security on firebird server almost for sure also know what to
>> do in a case when SRP data structures were not initalized. We talk
>> about a message which should be as clear as possible for novice.
>
> And that is covered by the normal error message:
>
> """
> Your user name and password are not defined. Ask your database 
> administrator to set up a Firebird login.
> """
>
> If the instruction "Ask your database administrator to set up a 
> Firebird login." is followed, then the problem resolves itself

Yes - provided there _IS_ such administrartor.
I remember very well when I myself first installed interbase 5.6 >20 
years ago, and lost a few hours searching for default SYSDBA password 
(masterkey). Now it looks funny, that time I was close to uninstall and 
forget about interbase. That's why I insist on having as descriptive as 
possible error message when something gone a bit wrong during installation.

> , just like it would if the security database was initialized, but the 
> user simply didn't exist (or had the wrong password). This is more 
> clear than the instruction to look at the compatibility chapter, which 
> - IIRC - was initially not even very clear on what needed to happen to 
> solve the problem.
>
> Alternatively, this error (isc_login) should be reported as the main 
> error, with a secondary error with additional information.
>

ie one gets:

Your user name and password are not defined. Ask your database 
administrator to set up a Firebird login.
Install incomplete, please read the Compatibility chapter in the release 
notes for this version

That's possible on my mind.