firebird-docs — chat stuff about documentation

Re: [Firebird-docs] CREATE USER in FB 1.51?

[Milan B. <al...@eu...>]

Christian Muenscher wrote:
> Is it possible to create a user in FB using SQL statements?

Yes, but you need to use some UDF library that does it, like rFunc.

http://rfunc.sourceforge.net/

> be able to create users from JSP or PHP applications.

I create it from PHP, by spawning system() call to gsec utility (not 
very nice, but it works.)

> Does there exist any really good and complete documentation for FB 1.51, 
> or do I have to use the InterBase 6.0 docs?

IB6 + various Firebird Release Notes.

Please ask further questions at firebird-support group at groups.yahoo.com.

-- 
Milan Babuskov
http://fbexport.sourceforge.net
http://www.flamerobin.org

Re: [Firebird-docs] CREATE USER in FB 1.51?

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi Christian,

> Is it possible to create a user in FB using SQL statements? I=B4d
> like to be able to create users from JSP or PHP applications. I
> was unable to find anything useful about this topic on the net.

This list is for discussion about the development of Firebird docs,
not for support questions. But to get you on the way:

- No, you can't create users with SQL statements.

- To find out how to do it from a JSP or PHP app, please ask on the
  firebird-java and/or firebird-php lists. Both are on Yahoogroups.

> Does there exist any really good and complete documentation for
> FB 1.51, or do I have to use the InterBase 6.0 docs?

If you're looking for free docs, the IB6 set is still the basis,
supplemented by the Firebird Quick Start Guide (currently being
upgraded to 1.5.x) and the Release Notes.

You can also buy a CD from http://www.ibphoenix.com with two
excellent (and BIG) manuals: Using Firebird, and the Firebird
Reference Guide. I don't know in how far they already reflect 1.5
though.

For PHP or Java specific Firebird docs, please ask on the
abovementioned lists or check out the documentation at
www.firebirdsql.org and www.ibphoenix.com


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

[Firebird-docs] CREATE USER in FB 1.51?

[Christian M. <cr...@gm...>]

Hi!

Is it possible to create a user in FB using SQL statements? I´d like to 
be able to create users from JSP or PHP applications. I was unable to 
find anything useful about this topic on the net.
Does there exist any really good and complete documentation for FB 1.51, 
or do I have to use the InterBase 6.0 docs?

Thank you!

regards,
    Chriss

[Firebird-docs] CREATE USER in FB 1.51?

[Christian M. <cr...@gm...>]

Hi!

Is it possible to create a user in FB using SQL statements? I´d like to 
be able to create users from JSP or PHP applications. I was unable to 
find anything useful about this topic on the net.
Does there exist any really good and complete documentation for FB 1.51, 
or do I have to use the InterBase 6.0 docs?

Thank you!

regards,
    Chriss

Re: [Firebird-docs] IISAPI web application (Borland dll) to connect to FireBird Database?

[Lester C. <le...@ls...>]

FernDog wrote:

> I've never used anything other than local databases before.  Recently, I
> have developed a couple of web applications as DLLs that access a local
> database on the web server just fine.  I'd like to find a more robust way to
> manage more data and I've been trying to find the best solution for my
> needs.  I'm guessing that FireBird is the way to go but I am not sure.
> 
> I have a single iis web server and nothing else at this time.  I imagine
> that I can load FireBird on the webserver, create some tables, and have my
> web application read and write data.  Is this correct?  This being true,
> what layer is required so that my web app can communicate with FireBird?
> What options do I have?

You need to go to the support list for questions like this !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-support/

I run Firebird on one machine and Apache2/PHP5 on a second, so when you 
ask there, let us know where you are at - I don't do IIS so can't 
comment on that ;)

-- 
Lester Caine
-----------------------------
L.S.Caine Electronic Services

[Firebird-docs] IISAPI web application (Borland dll) to connect to FireBird Database?

[FernDog <Fe...@Wh...>]

I've never used anything other than local databases before.  Recently, I
have developed a couple of web applications as DLLs that access a local
database on the web server just fine.  I'd like to find a more robust way to
manage more data and I've been trying to find the best solution for my
needs.  I'm guessing that FireBird is the way to go but I am not sure.

I have a single iis web server and nothing else at this time.  I imagine
that I can load FireBird on the webserver, create some tables, and have my
web application read and write data.  Is this correct?  This being true,
what layer is required so that my web app can communicate with FireBird?
What options do I have?

Thanks

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi all,

About the Quick Start Guide.

> What needs to be done:
>
> - Update to fully reflect 1.5 release.
> - Add images to CVS (I took some screenshots and used them for the
>   preliminary version, but maybe we want/need others).
> - (Auto)create an index.
>
> I don't mind doing this myself, but in the next 2 weeks I probably
> won't find the time. If somebody else wants to do it, that's fine
> too.

OK, I have a little more time now, so I've started 1.5-ing it.
I expect it to be ready within a week (optimistic as ever :-)).


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-docs] API docs for 1.5?

[Helen B. <he...@tp...>]

At 12:19 PM 22/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm haveing trouble finding / guessing which document contains the C++ api
>documentation for the new 1.5 release of firebird. I was looking on
>ibphoenix.com, but maybe I should look elsewhere?

The API hasn't changed - it's still the same C API.  The doc is still the 
IB6 APIGuide.pdf, which you can get from www.ibphoenix.com 
(Downloads/InterBase) or by googling for APIGuide.pdf

btw, this channel is actually for people developing documentation...

Helen

[Firebird-docs] API docs for 1.5?

[Kyle G. <ky...@co...>]

I'm haveing trouble finding / guessing which document contains the C++ api
documentation for the new 1.5 release of firebird. I was looking on
ibphoenix.com, but maybe I should look elsewhere?

Thanks,

Kyle

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Philippe M. <mak...@a6...>]

Hi all,

Le 03/07/2004 15:10, Helen Borrie a écrit :

> btw, there is a version of this (1.0) doc in French, too, translated by
> Philippe Makowski, AFAIR.  Philippe, are you watching this?
>
Yes
I'm back from holidays  :)
docbook is not a problem for me

so have we to put the french version in the too ?
we really have to organise the internationalisation (same for the setup)

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Philippe M. <mak...@fi...>]

Le 03/07/2004 15:10, Helen Borrie a écrit :

> At 01:43 AM 3/07/2004 +0200, you wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The Firebird QuickStart Guide, written by Helen Borrie and recently
>> donated to the project by IBPhoenix, has now been fully converted to
>> DocBook XML.
>>
>> I'm ready to commit it to CVS but before I do so: shall we keep it
>> under the same name? I'm asking this because in the emails we
>> exchanged, Helen consistently referred to it as the "Getting Started
>> Guide". Maybe she was just confusing it with the GSG she wrote for
>> IBO, but maybe she (un?)consciously thinks this is a better name.
>> Helen?
> 
> 
> Keep it as the Firebird Quick Start Guide.  The reason for the confusion
> (mine) is that I have the "QSG" and the "GSG".  Duh, I named it "Quick
> Start Guide" so it *wouldn't* get confused with the Getting Started with
> IBObjects.
> 
> btw, there is a version of this (1.0) doc in French, too, translated by
> Philippe Makowski, AFAIR.  Philippe, are you watching this?
> 
> Helen
Yes
I'm back from holidays :)
docbook is not a problem for me

so have we to put the french version in the too ?
we really have to organise the internationalisation (same for the setup)

[Firebird-docs] Fw: [Pkg-firebird-general] Re: beginning manuals for gdef and gpre

[Daniel U. <da...@se...>]

Sorry by mistake in addres to docs groups
Should be fir...@li... (I hope this time would work,
at atkin is firebird-doc)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Urban" <da...@se...>
To: "Remco Seesink" <ras...@ho...>;
<pkg...@li...>;
<fir...@li...>
Cc: <fir...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Pkg-firebird-general] Re: beginning manuals for gdef and gpre


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Remco Seesink" <ras...@ho...>
> To: <pkg...@li...>;
> <fir...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pkg-firebird-general] Re: beginning manuals for gdef and
gpre
>
>
> > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 20:23:21 -0400
> > "Grzegorz B. Prokopski" <ga...@de...> wrote:
> >
> > > W li_cie z czw, 08-07-2004, godz. 16:44, Daniel Urban pisze:
> > > > Hi
> > > > I've found documentation for gbak, bfix, gsec
> > > > http://www.destructor.de/firebird/index.htm
> > >
> > > I can not find any information under what license these documents are
> > > available.  For any document to be included in Debian package it
should
> > > also be available under terms compatible with DFSG requirements.
> >
> > I will (try to) contact the website owner to find out where they came
> from.
> > Would it be smart to place all documentation written by us under the
> > Interbase Public License?
>
> In my opinion  IDPL (Initial Developer's Public License) used by firebird
> team
> for new code (not from interbase) would be better.
>
> > I just noticed qli has some self documentation
> > which could be copied into the manual.
> Where? in itself code?
>
> >
> > I think we should coordinate with upstream for producing manuals. They
may
> > already have something going on. CC-ing this mail to firebird-devel.
> > Please reply to:
> > pkg...@li...
> > fir...@li...
>
> no to firebird-devel but firebird-doc
> fir...@li...
>
> Best regards
> Daniel Urban
>
>
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>

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Lucas F. <lu...@ro...>]

Helen,

> btw, there is a version of this (1.0) doc in French, too, translated by 
> Philippe Makowski, AFAIR.  Philippe, are you watching this?

since it's a long time that I have done the last translation(s) maybe 
I'm going to do a translation into german (or if not me then I might 
find some volunteers).

So if interested, let me know.

Luc.

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi all,

>>> I'm ready to commit it to CVS but before I do so: shall we keep
>>> it under the same name?

> L > Firebird QuickStart Guide makes a lot more sense to me.

> H > Keep it as the Firebird Quick Start Guide.

I've committed it to the CVS tree now. With a few changes:

- Promoted the subsections within "Other things worth knowing" to
  top-level sections for better visibility.

- Corrected an error in the "Nulls" subsection: the second if...then
  fragment returns 'Equal' if a and b are Null. Since that's not
  surprising to someone who sees Null as a value, I pointed out that
  the fragment (also) returns 'Equal` if a is Null and b isn't.
  I also added two one-line examples and a tip to this subsection.

Preliminary HTML and PDF versions can be found at the Doc Subproject
homepage:

  http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php?op=devel&sub=doc

What needs to be done:

- Update to fully reflect 1.5 release.
- Add images to CVS (I took some screenshots and used them for the
  preliminary version, but maybe we want/need others).
- (Auto)create an index.

I don't mind doing this myself, but in the next 2 weeks I probably
won't find the time. If somebody else wants to do it, that's fine too.


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi Lester, Helen,

>> I'm ready to commit it to CVS but before I do so: shall we keep
>> it under the same name? I'm asking this because in the emails we
>> exchanged, Helen consistently referred to it as the "Getting
>> Started Guide". Maybe she was just confusing it with the GSG she
>> wrote for IBO, but maybe she (un?)consciously thinks this is a
>> better name.

L > Firebird QuickStart Guide makes a lot more sense to me.

H > Keep it as the Firebird Quick Start Guide.  The reason for the
H > confusion (mine) is that I have the "QSG" and the "GSG".  Duh, I
H > named it "Quick Start Guide" so it *wouldn't* get confused with
H > the Getting Started with IBObjects.

:-) :-)

OK, Quick Start Guide it is.


Greetings,
Paul

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Helen B. <he...@tp...>]

At 01:43 AM 3/07/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>The Firebird QuickStart Guide, written by Helen Borrie and recently
>donated to the project by IBPhoenix, has now been fully converted to
>DocBook XML.
>
>I'm ready to commit it to CVS but before I do so: shall we keep it
>under the same name? I'm asking this because in the emails we
>exchanged, Helen consistently referred to it as the "Getting Started
>Guide". Maybe she was just confusing it with the GSG she wrote for
>IBO, but maybe she (un?)consciously thinks this is a better name.
>Helen?

Keep it as the Firebird Quick Start Guide.  The reason for the confusion 
(mine) is that I have the "QSG" and the "GSG".  Duh, I named it "Quick 
Start Guide" so it *wouldn't* get confused with the Getting Started with 
IBObjects.

btw, there is a version of this (1.0) doc in French, too, translated by 
Philippe Makowski, AFAIR.  Philippe, are you watching this?

Helen

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Lester C. <le...@ls...>]

Paul Vinkenoog wrote:

> The Firebird QuickStart Guide, written by Helen Borrie and recently
> donated to the project by IBPhoenix, has now been fully converted to
> DocBook XML.
> 
> I'm ready to commit it to CVS but before I do so: shall we keep it
> under the same name? I'm asking this because in the emails we
> exchanged, Helen consistently referred to it as the "Getting Started
> Guide". Maybe she was just confusing it with the GSG she wrote for
> IBO, but maybe she (un?)consciously thinks this is a better name.
> Helen?

Firebird QuickStart Guide makes a lot more sense to me.


-- 
Lester Caine
-----------------------------
L.S.Caine Electronic Services

[Firebird-docs] Firebird QuickStart Guide

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi all,

The Firebird QuickStart Guide, written by Helen Borrie and recently
donated to the project by IBPhoenix, has now been fully converted to
DocBook XML.

I'm ready to commit it to CVS but before I do so: shall we keep it
under the same name? I'm asking this because in the emails we
exchanged, Helen consistently referred to it as the "Getting Started
Guide". Maybe she was just confusing it with the GSG she wrote for
IBO, but maybe she (un?)consciously thinks this is a better name.
Helen?

This guide is going to be included with Firebird releases, so the name
must make clear immediately what it's all about - but I think both
names are OK in that respect.

Once committed, some of the content must be updated to reflect
Firebird 1.5 final (it's now somewhere in between).


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird 1.5 on Notebook running Windows XP

[Helen B. <he...@tp...>]

At 01:22 PM 28/06/2004 +0200, Rik Terryn wrote:
>When I open a large database on my notebook with Windows XP, I have to wait
>a couple of minutes before I can access my database.
>
>Doing this on my notebook with Windows 2000, I get instant access to my
>database.
>
>Anyone has an idea what might be the reason ?

This is the wrong place to ask.  This list is the documenters' 
workshop.  Join firebird-support at 
http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/firebird-support.

Helen

Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird 1.5 on Notebook running Windows XP

[Ty <Ea...@au...>]

Rik Terryn wrote:
> When I open a large database on my notebook with Windows XP, I have to wait
> a couple of minutes before I can access my database.
> 
> Doing this on my notebook with Windows 2000, I get instant access to my
> database.
> 
> Anyone has an idea what might be the reason ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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your database extension should be .fdb.  if it is .gdb then windows will 
backup the file before you are allowed to open it.

[Firebird-docs] Firebird 1.5 on Notebook running Windows XP

[Rik T. <rt...@ha...>]

When I open a large database on my notebook with Windows XP, I have to wait
a couple of minutes before I can access my database.

Doing this on my notebook with Windows 2000, I get instant access to my
database.

Anyone has an idea what might be the reason ?

Thanks

[Firebird-docs] Changes to manual module

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hello,

Changes to the manual module yesterday:

- Carlos committed the sources of his Wireprotocol doc to the module.
  It can become part of the HTML+PDF docs on the website as soon as
  he considers it ready to publish.

- I upgraded our Apache FOP libraries to the latest version 0.20.5.
  This version produces PDFs that are a lot smaller (in KBs, not in
  pages) and somewhat better (e.g. links to <book>s don't land on
  empty pages anymore).


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-docs] Things to improve

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi all,

>> - Internal links to elements at chapter/article level or above
>> don't work.
>
> This is solved in the new version of the DocBook stylesheets.

> The new stylesheets also fix a problem I mentioned in the Docwriting
> Howto: non-monospaced <literallayout> was badly rendered (as fully
> justified lines, or worse).

> I'm planning to commit the new stylesheets to CVS in a couple of
> days.

OK, done. I also updated our own driver stylesheet fo.xsl, a) to
bypass some minor drawbacks of the new DocBook stylesheets, and
b) to give non-graphical admonitions a colored background (based on
Carlos' solution).

I'm also planning to upgrade to a newer version of Apache FOP (it
produces smaller PDF files and fixes at least one bug in our current
version), and examining if it's worthwhile upgrading Saxon and/or
the DocBook core files.

If all this sounds like Chinese:

- DocBook core files: contain the DocBook Document Type Definition.
  The latest stable version (4.3) has some additions we could use
  (though nothing really spectacular).

- DocBook stylesheets: lots of XSL files containing templates for
  the conversion of our DocBook XML source docs to HTML, XHTML,
  FO, etc...

- Saxon: an XSLT processor, that reads our DocBook XML sources and
  produces HTML, XHTML, FO etc... according to the transformation
  rules in the abovementioned stylesheets.

- FO: Formatting Objects. An intermediate format from which PDF,
  RTF, PostScript etc. can be produced.

- Apache FOP: a Formatting Objects Processor. It reads a FO file
  and produces PDF (and more if we want it to).


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-docs] IB6 vs. FB synopsis

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Hi Boris,

> Thanks for your reply.
> I read the QuickStartGuide before.
> Unfortunately it don't tell me anything in detail, like new options
> to SELECT and how to use it...

True, but like I wrote:

>> The best place to find this information is the Release Notes
>> document of your downloaded Firebird package. Also read any
>> WhatsNew* documents if they are there.

Look under "New Features" and "Language Enhancements" in the release
notes and you'll find what you're looking for, in detail.


Greetings,
Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-docs] IB6 vs. FB synopsis

[Boris <bo...@ts...>]

Hi Paul!

Thanks for your reply.
I read the QuickStartGuide before.
Unfortunately it don't tell me anything in detail, like new options to
SELECT and how to use it...

Regards,

Paul Vinkenoog schrieb:
> 
> Hi Boris,
> 
> > I've been running IB6 for quite a while now I'd like to switch
> > to FB.
> 
> Good idea! :-)
> 
> > Where can I find a compact listing of changes made to FB against
> > IB6?  Maybe an appendix to the IB-Doc, showing the LIMIT-extension
> > made to the SELECT-statement etc.
> 
> The best place to find this information is the Release Notes document
> of your downloaded Firebird package. Also read any WhatsNew* documents
> if they are there.
> 
> The QuickStart Guide is very useful too, but this doesn't concentrate
> on the new features; it's a general basic tutorial. If it's not in
> your download, you can get it here:
> 
>   http://www.ibphoenix.com/downloads/qsg.pdf
> 
> Good luck!
> Paul Vinkenoog
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