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[Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[mikee <mi...@mi...>]

I have mysql/mysqld installed. I can start the daemon by hand, the
subsequent sql statements work as expected, etc. How do I get mysqld
to start at system startup? On linux I would use the 'service' and
'chkconfig' commands.

Mike

Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[Alexander K. H. <ak...@fi...>]

mikee wrote:
> I have mysql/mysqld installed. I can start the daemon by hand, the
> subsequent sql statements work as expected, etc. How do I get mysqld
> to start at system startup? On linux I would use the 'service' and
> 'chkconfig' commands.
>
> Mike
>
> -
In Fink you use "sudo daemonic enable mysql" to have it start up with 
your system.  Check out "fink info mysql" for more information.



-- 
Alexander K. Hansen
Fink User Liason/Documenter
ak...@fi...

Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[mikee <mi...@mi...>]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Alexander K. Hansen might have said:

> mikee wrote:
> >I have mysql/mysqld installed. I can start the daemon by hand, the
> >subsequent sql statements work as expected, etc. How do I get mysqld
> >to start at system startup? On linux I would use the 'service' and
> >'chkconfig' commands.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >-
> In Fink you use "sudo daemonic enable mysql" to have it start up with 
> your system.  Check out "fink info mysql" for more information.

That's neat. Is there a way to have 'daemonic' start mysql now without a
reboot of the box or is that a feature of 'launchctl'?

Mike

Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[Alexander K. H. <ak...@fi...>]

mikee wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Alexander K. Hansen might have said:
>
>   
>> mikee wrote:
>>     
>>> I have mysql/mysqld installed. I can start the daemon by hand, the
>>> subsequent sql statements work as expected, etc. How do I get mysqld
>>> to start at system startup? On linux I would use the 'service' and
>>> 'chkconfig' commands.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> -
>>>       
>> In Fink you use "sudo daemonic enable mysql" to have it start up with 
>> your system.  Check out "fink info mysql" for more information.
>>     
>
> That's neat. Is there a way to have 'daemonic' start mysql now without a
> reboot of the box or is that a feature of 'launchctl'?
>
> Mike
>   
Nope--it's just to set things up for boot-time.  Daemons frequently are 
started manually the first time, or sometimes the package installation 
can start them up.

-- 
Alexander K. Hansen
Fink User Liason/Documenter
ak...@fi...

Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[Christopher B. <to...@th...>]

On 03/29/07 at 13:13, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

> mikee wrote:
> >
> > That's neat. Is there a way to have 'daemonic' start mysql now
> > without a reboot of the box or is that a feature of 'launchctl'?
> >  =20
> Nope--it's just to set things up for boot-time.  Daemons frequently are=
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> started manually the first time, or sometimes the package installation=20
> can start them up.

Speaking of daemonic and launchctl/launchd, can anyone say the status of
updating daemonic to support launchd on OS X 10.4 and above? I see feature
requests for it in both daemonic's and Fink's trackers on Sourceforge, and
it is listed in the 'Roadmap: Medium Term Goals' on the Fink wiki. Daemonic
really should support the preferred method of controlling daemons (not to
mention all the other neat stuff that launchd can do), rather than using
only a deprecated method that is likely to disappear altogether at some
point. I'm just curious about it at this point, I'm not currently running
any Fink-installed daemons on any of my Tiger systems.

--=20
Christopher Bort
<to...@th...>
<http://www.thehundredacre.net/>

Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[Daniel J. <da...@da...>]

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On Mar 29, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Christopher Bort wrote:

> On 03/29/07 at 13:13, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
>
>> mikee wrote:
>>>
>>> That's neat. Is there a way to have 'daemonic' start mysql now
>>> without a reboot of the box or is that a feature of 'launchctl'?
>>>
>> Nope--it's just to set things up for boot-time.  Daemons  
>> frequently are
>> started manually the first time, or sometimes the package  
>> installation
>> can start them up.
>
> Speaking of daemonic and launchctl/launchd, can anyone say the  
> status of
> updating daemonic to support launchd on OS X 10.4 and above? I see  
> feature
> requests for it in both daemonic's and Fink's trackers on  
> Sourceforge, and
> it is listed in the 'Roadmap: Medium Term Goals' on the Fink wiki.  
> Daemonic
> really should support the preferred method of controlling daemons  
> (not to
> mention all the other neat stuff that launchd can do), rather than  
> using
> only a deprecated method that is likely to disappear altogether at  
> some
> point. I'm just curious about it at this point, I'm not currently  
> running
> any Fink-installed daemons on any of my Tiger systems.

This is one of those things that everyone agrees is something that  
should be done but no one has actually gotten around to doing it.  
Part of the problem is that daemonic is old and crufty C code which  
few people really understand and upgrading to launchd without  
breaking existing packages is very tricky. The old StartupItems  
simply used shell scripts and therefore could do anything a shell  
script could do. Launchd is a lot more restrictive and needs to track  
the status of every process it's managing. For example, it's not  
uncommon for daemons to fork a new process and then quit. That causes  
launchd to have a nervous breakdown. :)

I've played with a couple of ideas but never come up with a  
satisfactory replacement until now. It turns out that MacPorts came  
up with a good solution involving a utility called daemondo and some  
wrapper scripts. I'm working on a replacement daemonic (written in  
Perl for easier maintenance) now. No promises on how long it'll  
take. :) There's a "daemondo" package in my experimental cvs  
directory in danielj/10.4/daemondo.info if anyone want's to look at  
it. It'll be part of my solution. Daemondo is actually a pretty neat  
program that will run programs in response to various system  
notifications like network changes and wake-from-sleep in addition to  
acting as an adapter to launchd.

Daniel

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Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[Roland K. <rk...@e1...>]

Hi Daniel!

On 30 Mar 2007, at 01:01, Daniel Johnson wrote:

> I've played with a couple of ideas but never come up with a
> satisfactory replacement until now. It turns out that MacPorts came
> up with a good solution involving a utility called daemondo and some
> wrapper scripts. I'm working on a replacement daemonic (written in
> Perl for easier maintenance) now. No promises on how long it'll
> take. :) There's a "daemondo" package in my experimental cvs
> directory in danielj/10.4/daemondo.info if anyone want's to look at
> it. It'll be part of my solution. Daemondo is actually a pretty neat
> program that will run programs in response to various system
> notifications like network changes and wake-from-sleep in addition to
> acting as an adapter to launchd.
>
Awesome! Does this mean that I finally can have 'postqueue -f' run  
every time my notebook gets connected to the internet? That would  
also be useful for automatically merging my elog's...

Ciao,
                     Roland

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Re: [Fink-users] fink, osx, and mysqld?

[Daniel J. <da...@da...>]

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On Mar 30, 2007, at 4:49 AM, Roland Kuhn wrote:

> Hi Daniel!
>
> On 30 Mar 2007, at 01:01, Daniel Johnson wrote:
>
>> I've played with a couple of ideas but never come up with a
>> satisfactory replacement until now. It turns out that MacPorts came
>> up with a good solution involving a utility called daemondo and some
>> wrapper scripts. I'm working on a replacement daemonic (written in
>> Perl for easier maintenance) now. No promises on how long it'll
>> take. :) There's a "daemondo" package in my experimental cvs
>> directory in danielj/10.4/daemondo.info if anyone want's to look at
>> it. It'll be part of my solution. Daemondo is actually a pretty neat
>> program that will run programs in response to various system
>> notifications like network changes and wake-from-sleep in addition to
>> acting as an adapter to launchd.
>>
> Awesome! Does this mean that I finally can have 'postqueue -f' run  
> every time my notebook gets connected to the internet? That would  
> also be useful for automatically merging my elog's...

Sure. From daemondo:

The argument restart-netchange will cause the daemon to be restarted  
when
the network configuration changes. This is a shortcut for the more
verbose --restart-darwin-notify com.apple.system.config.network_change.

You would have to set the restart command like: --restart-cmd  
postqueue -f ;
See the daemondo package description for details.

Daniel

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