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Re: [fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

As it says in my .sig - DO NOT EMAIL ME DIRECTLY.

If you want help, keep traffic on the list.

On 5/5/06, Admin Att <att...@gm...> wrote:
>
> I didin't understand you correctly what you mean by : "Do you have details
> in anything other than the Received headers?"
> i copy/pasted my complete log with all what is happening with this conf file
>  and variations of him.
>
> btw, i think biggets problem is that my isp is not adding anything they dont
> get from original sender so no additional field i can not get from them
> except fields that are included from original sender and that is usually
> Received line

See the email from Matthias - you may find that the aka option works
for you.  However if it doesn't then you're out of luck.  Your ISP
isn't providing enough information in the headers for multidrop to
reliably work.

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Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration (was: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :()

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/4/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:
> On 5/4/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:

<---SNIP--->
> >
> > .fethmailrc use this settings
> >
> > poll 72.29.74.211 protocol pop3
> >
> > user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> > 'de...@co...' here
> >
> > my mail in my inbox but not scanning spamm :(
> >
> > what do i do ?

The problem is related to your local SMTP server configuration, it has
nothing to do with fetchmail.  You need to resolve your qmail
configuration problems.

(I'd guess that mail from localhost/loopback isn't being scanned)

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Matthias Andree wrote:
> Please do not post HTML to mailing lists, see
> <http://www.expita.com/nomime.html>
>
> (Could someone with list admin privileges tell Mailman to strip
> text/html MIME parts please? Thanks)

Unfortunately Berlios is only running Mailman 2.0.13, so that option isn't 
there.  It appears to be a Mailman 2.1 feature.

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[fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Ozgur YILMAZ" <mr...@gm...> writes:

Please do not post HTML to mailing lists, see
<http://www.expita.com/nomime.html>

(Could someone with list admin privileges tell Mailman to strip
text/html MIME parts please? Thanks)

Also, please remember to reply to the list, not to me personally.

>     firstly thanks for your answer.
>     i have not one user it is only my test user
>     if it works, i will add a lot of domains and user
>      
>     i use fetchmail ---> fetch mail from external mail server
>     qmail ---> mda and pop3 server
>     SA ---> spam filter 

OK. You need to

1 - find out how to integrate qmail-scanner with qmail
    (that's in the qmail-scanner documentation)

2 - test if qmail-scanner is working, before you proceed

3 - if it works, integrate SpamAssassin into qmail-scanner.
    We cannot help here, that should be in the qmail-scanner
    documentation. Or ask on the qmail-scanner list.

4 - find out if you can use a better POP3 server than qmail's. qmail's
    POP3 server has security flaws and reports the wrong message sizes,
    thus it confuses clients.

My personal favorite setup would probably use Postfix + amavisd-new
(which integrates Spamassassin) + Dovecot or Courier-IMAP or Cyrus - but
vpopmail does not integrate well with these.

http://www.postfix.org/addon.html#config lists a few pointers should you
decide to switch.

>     .fethmailrc use this settings
>      
>     poll 72.29.74.211 protocol pop3
>    
>     user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
>     'de...@co...' here
>      
>     my mail in my inbox but not scanning spamm :(
>      
>     what do i do ?

The fetchmailrc part looks fine, so it would be a problem in your
qmail or qmail-scanner setup.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration (was: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :()

[Ozgur Y. <mr...@gm...>]

On 5/4/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:
>
>  Hello
>
> firstly thanks for your answer.
> i have not one user it is only my test user
> if it works, i will add a lot of domains and user
>
> i use fetchmail ---> fetch mail from external mail server
> qmail ---> mda and pop3 server
> SA ---> spam filter
>
> i want to fetch mail from external server to my internal server ( for 150
> user).
> and then i use spam filter and my user connect pop3 server and then
> recieve mail.
> is is possible
> it setup one and they work alone
>
> .fethmailrc use this settings
>
> poll 72.29.74.211 protocol pop3
>
> user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> 'de...@co...' here
>
>  my mail in my inbox but not scanning spamm :(
>
> what do i do ?
>
>
>
>
> On 5/3/06, Matthias Andree <mat...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > "Ozgur YILMAZ" <mr...@gm...> writes:
> >
> > > i want to local spam scanner for office
> > > i setup fetchmail + qmail + vpopmail + qmailscanner + SA
> > >
> > > i fetch mail by fetchmail and i recived qmail pop3
> > > and SA works test command but my fetch mail is not scanned by SA
> >
> > Özgür,
> >
> > qmail is not a modern MTA by any standard and full of flaws that other
> > MTAs do not share. <http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html>
> >
> > > here my .fetchmailrc
> > >
> > > poll my.externalserver.com protocol pop3
> > > user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> > > 'de...@co...' here
> > > mda "/usr/bin/spamc -e | /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-queue" ( i have
> > problem this line i do not write )
> >
> > What do you need vpopmail for if there is only one user?
> >
> > The MDA option doesn't look correct. Spamc expects a command after -e,
> > and qmail-queue programs (and substitutes) expect two file descriptors
> > for input. One for the envelope, one for the data.
> >
> > Is there a particular reason why you're using the "mda" option?
> > And then in a way that loses envelope information?
> >
> > I wonder how you are getting messages at all with this setup, you should
> > get something like:  /usr/bin/spamc: option requires an argument -- e
> >
> > Besides that, qmail-scanner claims to integrate with SpamAssassin - so
> > there should be some qmail-scanner documentation on that topic.
> >
> > Try checking the documentation and understanding or describing to
> > somebody
> >
> > - what you want to achieve
> >
> > - how you can get there
> >
> > rather than taking lines out of a context and trying them out.
> >
> > A systematic approach will probably be more successful than guessing
> > here.
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Andree
> >
>
>

Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Rob MacGregor" <rob...@gm...> writes:

> On 5/3/06, Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> wrote:
>> While I am no fan of qmail either, I would argue that by at least two
>> standards it is a "modern MTA":
>> - it does not use a monolithic architecture, using separate programs for
>> separate tasks
>> - it uses maildir to store mail, rather than mbox
>>   (OK, this one isn't technically an MTA issue, but an MDA issue)
>>
>> I'm still amazed at the number of people still using sendmail....
>
> Which also doesn't use a monolitic architecture (ok, so it's only 2
> daemons, but it's a step in the right direction) or maildir...

Ah well, if you want Maildir underneath sendmail, you can always install
maildrop and use it as filter application or mailer. At least sendmail
is actively maintained so its security holes get plugged in reasonable
time. qmail's holes are open for like eight years now...

For a change of subject, the best MTA is fetchmail, of course. =:->

> Now, can we stop this evangelising over the best/worst choice of MTA :-)

Agreed. And cows can't tile a roof. :-)

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Admin Att" <att...@gm...> writes:

> Hi all
> i installed fetchmail few days ago and since then i have problem with BCC
> field.

See http://home.pages.de/~mandree/mail/multidrop to see which multidrop
scenarios work reliably and which don't.

Many MTAS omit the recipient from Received: headers when there is more
than one as is the case in Bcc setups, although that does not appear to
be the problem here (but it might if you wrote to two different Bcc:
recipients of your own domain)

> reading message myp...@po...:1 of 1 (8652 octets)
> fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
> Received: for < te...@my... >
> fetchmail: no Received address found       <---- !!!???? how is this logical!?

fetchmail expects a "by some.host.name for <so...@ex...>" format,
and also performs some checking on some.host.name - if that doesn't fit,
it doesn't accept the address.

> Received: from testpc1 by mycompany.com
>         (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R)
>         with ESMTP id md50000169342.msg
>         for <te...@my...>; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:49:03 +0200
> fetchmail: line rejected, mycompany.com is not an alias of the mailserver

So it likes this header better because it has the "by mycompany.com"
before "for <te...@my...>" - but doesn't accept the "by"
part.  You might trick fetchmail into believing that by adding

aka mycompany.com

to your configuration (before the "user" keyword). I don't know if that
works though -- no guarantees.

I suggest:

1. check if there is a better header. If not, try to arrange for one,
   such as X-Original-To, Envelope-To, Delivered-To. See the URL above,
   and feel free to quote the URL to your ISP. If you have got a better
   header, adjust the Envelope option accordingly.

2. do not run fetchmail as root - that's a basic safety measure to limit
   impact should a bug I have overseen be discovered. Since you are
   forwarding via SMTP, fetchmail does not need root privileges.

   Create a "fetchmail" user, copy /etc/fetchmailrc
   to ~fetchmail/.fetchmailrc and use this command to start fetchmail
   under the fetchmail user account:

   su fetchmail -c "fetchmail"

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/3/06, Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> wrote:
> While I am no fan of qmail either, I would argue that by at least two
> standards it is a "modern MTA":
> - it does not use a monolithic architecture, using separate programs for
> separate tasks
> - it uses maildir to store mail, rather than mbox
>   (OK, this one isn't technically an MTA issue, but an MDA issue)
>
> I'm still amazed at the number of people still using sendmail....

Which also doesn't use a monolitic architecture (ok, so it's only 2
daemons, but it's a step in the right direction) or maildir...

Now, can we stop this evangelising over the best/worst choice of MTA :-)

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Re: [fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/3/06, Admin Att <att...@gm...> wrote:
> poll pop.myisp.com proto pop3
>  aka MyISPname envelope 0 Received localdomains mytestdomain.com
> mail.mytestdomain.com:
> user mypop3user with pass mypass is * here
>
> - i tried with envelope 0 1 2 (but thats not logical regardin in first line

Do you have details in anything other than the Received headers?  If
not then you're in a hiding to nothing.  Please see the man page for
warnings for the problems of abusing this header for envelope
information.

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[fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Matthias Andree wrote:
> qmail is not a modern MTA by any standard and full of flaws that other
> MTAs do not share. <http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html>

While I am no fan of qmail either, I would argue that by at least two 
standards it is a "modern MTA":
- it does not use a monolithic architecture, using separate programs for 
separate tasks
- it uses maildir to store mail, rather than mbox
  (OK, this one isn't technically an MTA issue, but an MDA issue)

I'm still amazed at the number of people still using sendmail....

-- 
==============================|   "A microscope locked in on one point
 Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> |Never sees what kind of room that it's in"
 http://www.funknet.net/rfunk |    -- Chris Mars, "Stuck in Rewind"

[fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Admin A. <att...@gm...>]

Hi all
i installed fetchmail few days ago and since then i have problem with BCC
field. I sent from mycompany domain mail to yahoo mail and to testdomain in
BCC field.
Fethcmail is working with regular To/Cc mails

I tried many variations and neither helped.
I hope anyone can find problem.

----------------------------------------------
here is my conf file for fetchmail

poll pop.myisp.com proto pop3
 aka MyISPname envelope 0 Received localdomains mytestdomain.com
mail.mytestdomain.com:
user mypop3user with pass mypass is * here

- i tried with envelope 0 1 2 (but thats not logical regardin in first line
i see correct e-mail from Received line.
dunno if ":" after domain name is needed, but i tried with and without.
- i tried withouth aka MyISPname and with it...

-----------------------------------------------
i have installed postfix/cyrus imapd/mysql/web cyradm - combo and all is
working ok except mentioned above.


here is log from  fetchmail -v -v

==========================================

linux-mail:# fetchmail -v -v -f .fetchmailrc
fetchmail: WARNING: Running as root is discouraged.
fetchmail: 6.3.4 querying pop.myisp.com (protocol POP3) at Wed Apr 26
13:43:18 2006:

poll started
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 Server Ready <285...@my...>
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR
fetchmail: Repoll immediately on beb...@po...
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 Server Ready <285...@my...>
fetchmail: POP3> USER mypop3user
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 8652
fetchmail: POP3> LAST
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR
fetchmail: POP3> UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3< 1 <0.0...@my...>
fetchmail: 1 is unseen
fetchmail: POP3< .
1 message for mypop3user at pop.myisp.com (8652 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 8652
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message myp...@po...:1 of 1 (8652 octets)
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: for <te...@my... >
fetchmail: no Received address found       <---- !!!???? how is this
logical!?
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: from gateway.mycompany.com [XXX.XXX.XX.XX ] by MyISPname with SMTP
on Wed,

26 Apr 2006 13:44:17 +0200
fetchmail: line accepted, MyISPname is an alias of the mailserver
fetchmail: no Received address found
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: from testpc1 by mycompany.com
        (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R)
        with ESMTP id md50000169342.msg
        for <te...@my...>; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:49:03 +0200
fetchmail: line rejected, mycompany.com is not an alias of the mailserver
About to rewrite From: "John" <jo...@my...>
Rewritten version is From: "John" <jo...@my...>

About to rewrite To: "'John'" <joh...@ya... >
Rewritten version is To: "'John'" <joh...@ya...>

fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 mail.mytestdomain.com ESMTP Postfix (2.2.9)
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO linux-mail
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-mail.mytestdomain.com
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE 10240000
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-VRFY
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-ETRN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<jo...@my...> SIZE=8652
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<postmaster@localhost >
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
#*******************************************************.***************************


****************.****************************.****************************.*********

*********************.**************.*************.**********fetchmail:
message

myp...@po...:1 was not the expected length (8687 actual != 8652

expected)
fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok: queued as 7048A6F4E3
 flushed
fetchmail: POP3> DELE 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 Bye
fetchmail: 6.3.4 querying pop.myisp.com (protocol POP3) at Wed Apr 26
13:43:19 2006:

poll completed
fetchmail: swapping UID lists
fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file.
fetchmail: normal termination, status 0
fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file.



Best Regards and tnx in advance

fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration (was: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :()

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Ozgur YILMAZ" <mr...@gm...> writes:

> i want to local spam scanner for office
> i setup fetchmail + qmail + vpopmail + qmailscanner + SA
>  
> i fetch mail by fetchmail and i recived qmail pop3
> and SA works test command but my fetch mail is not scanned by SA

Özgür,

qmail is not a modern MTA by any standard and full of flaws that other
MTAs do not share. <http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html>

> here my .fetchmailrc
>  
> poll my.externalserver.com protocol pop3
> user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> 'de...@co...' here
> mda "/usr/bin/spamc -e | /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-queue" ( i have problem this line i do not write )

What do you need vpopmail for if there is only one user?

The MDA option doesn't look correct. Spamc expects a command after -e,
and qmail-queue programs (and substitutes) expect two file descriptors
for input. One for the envelope, one for the data.

Is there a particular reason why you're using the "mda" option?
And then in a way that loses envelope information?

I wonder how you are getting messages at all with this setup, you should
get something like:  /usr/bin/spamc: option requires an argument -- e

Besides that, qmail-scanner claims to integrate with SpamAssassin - so
there should be some qmail-scanner documentation on that topic.

Try checking the documentation and understanding or describing to somebody

- what you want to achieve

- how you can get there

rather than taking lines out of a context and trying them out.

A systematic approach will probably be more successful than guessing here.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> writes:

> here is my configuration file:
>
> set postmaster "an...@ba..."
> set bouncemail
> set daemon 60
> set syslog
>
> poll *******
>      protocol imap
>      port 993
>      user '****'
>      pass '****'
>      is and...@ba...
>      ssl
>      keep
>
>> For the first, try "fetchmail --nosyslog -v -v".  It's likely you're
>> logging to syslog if there is not output on stdout.
>
> no output again...

Andres,

Rob didn't know about the "set daemon 60" option which sends output to
/dev/null. You can override that option with with "-d0" or "--daemon 0"
on the command line, or, if you want to leave fetchmail in daemon mode,
the "--nodetach" (-N) option keeps output on your screen while in daemon
mode. (With syslog enabled, i. e. omitting the --nosyslog, the mail log
file, often /var/log/mail or /var/log/maillog, will contain that
information -- perhaps you need to tell syslog via /etc/syslog.conf to
capture mail.debug logging.)

Rob,

I have adjusted the G3 item of the FAQ <http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-FAQ.html#G3>
to suggest "--nosyslog --nodetach -vvv"
(option merging is safe BTW since fetchmail ships a copy of GNU getopt,
so the comand line capabilities do not depend on system libraries).

> Connecting to my work server works with thunderbird, both on windows and
> on Linux.

Well, fetchmail appears to be doing something differently than
Thunderbird then. The new command line ("fetchmail --nosyslog -Nvv" or 
"fetchmail --nosyslog -vvd0") will hopefully provide us with some detail.

> Hope

yes?

HTH,

-- 
Matthias Andree

[fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.4 now also available from ibiblio.org

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Greetings,

I just received notice that fetchmail 6.3.4 is also available from
ibiblio.org, and their mirrors as they resynch.

The ibiblio path is system/mail/pop/fetchmail/.

In order to download fetchmail from ibiblio.org mirrors:

1. look up a mirror close to you from
<http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/MIRRORS.html>

2. add system/mail/pop/fetchmail/!INDEX.html to the URL you just looked up

3. download fetchmail-6.3.4.tar.bz2

Kind regards
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/2/06, Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> wrote:
> no output again...

Right, you'll need to disable daemon mode too:

fetchmail --nosyslog -d0 -v -v

> Connecting to my work server works with thunderbird, both on windows and
> on Linux.

Thanks, that at least suggests a problem with the interaction of
fetchmail and exchange.  Hopefully once you manage to get the output
requested, showing a corrupt attachment download, we'll be able to
narrow down the problem.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Andres B. <an...@ba...>]

Rob MacGregor wrote:
> On 4/28/06, Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> wrote:
>> could you explain a bit more what you mean? If I run the command I do
>> not see any output, nor there is any tput in /var/log/messages.
> 
> Please post your .fetchmailrc.

Hi,
here is my configuration file:

set postmaster "an...@ba..."
set bouncemail
set daemon 60
set syslog

poll *******
     protocol imap
     port 993
     user '****'
     pass '****'
     is and...@ba...
     ssl
     keep

> For the first, try "fetchmail --nosyslog -v -v".  It's likely you're
> logging to syslog if there is not output on stdout.

no output again...

>> Yes, I can confirm you that I can read the email from Thunderbird.
> 
> On the host you're running fetchmail on?

I have limits in the amount of space I can use in my work address. So I
run fetchmail to get my mail from my work address to my personal server.
And then I connect from other hosts to read the email.

Connecting to my work server works with thunderbird, both on windows and
on Linux.

Hope

Re: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :(

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 4/29/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:
>
> i want to local spam scanner for office
> i setup fetchmail + qmail + vpopmail + qmailscanner + SA
>
> i fetch mail by fetchmail and i recived qmail pop3
> and SA works test command but my fetch mail is not scanned by SA

Why not tie SA into qmail and avoid the mda command you're using?

If that's not possible you'll need to show log entries showing your problem.

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[fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :(

[Ozgur Y. <mr...@gm...>]

i want to local spam scanner for office
i setup fetchmail + qmail + vpopmail + qmailscanner + SA

i fetch mail by fetchmail and i recived qmail pop3
and SA works test command but my fetch mail is not scanned by SA

here my .fetchmailrc

poll my.externalserver.com protocol pop3
user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
'de...@co...' here
mda "/usr/bin/spamc -e | /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-queue" ( i have problem
this line i do not write )

please help me :(

özgür

Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 4/28/06, Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> wrote:
> could you explain a bit more what you mean? If I run the command I do
> not see any output, nor there is any tput in /var/log/messages.

Please post your .fetchmailrc.

For the first, try "fetchmail --nosyslog -v -v".  It's likely you're
logging to syslog if there is not output on stdout.

> Yes, I can confirm you that I can read the email from Thunderbird.

On the host you're running fetchmail on?

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Andres B. <an...@ba...>]

Rob MacGregor wrote:
> On 4/28/06, Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> wrote:
> It would help to see the .fetchmailrc and the output of "fetchmail -v
> -v" showing a pull of a "corrupt" attachment.

Hi,
could you explain a bit more what you mean? If I run the command I do
not see any output, nor there is any tput in /var/log/messages.

> Confirmation that a normal client (such as Thunderbird) can download a
> mail without corruption of attachments would be useful (using the same
> host as you're running fetchmail on, using the same config).

Yes, I can confirm you that I can read the email from Thunderbird.

Thanks in advance for your help,
	Andres

Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 4/28/06, Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fetching my email from an exchange server and I have regular
> problems with the attachments. Attachments are often corrupted.
>
> I have read the FAQs and apparently there are some known problems, and
> the suggested solution is to change email server. Which of course I
> can't because is not in my control.
>
> I was wondering:
> -if the FAQ entry is updated, and if there are still known problems
> -if it might be a configuration problem on my side.

It would help to see the .fetchmailrc and the output of "fetchmail -v
-v" showing a pull of a "corrupt" attachment.

Confirmation that a normal client (such as Thunderbird) can download a
mail without corruption of attachments would be useful (using the same
host as you're running fetchmail on, using the same config).

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[fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Andres B. <an...@ba...>]

Dear all,
I'm fetching my email from an exchange server and I have regular
problems with the attachments. Attachments are often corrupted.

I have read the FAQs and apparently there are some known problems, and
the suggested solution is to change email server. Which of course I
can't because is not in my control.

I was wondering:
-if the FAQ entry is updated, and if there are still known problems
-if it might be a configuration problem on my side.

This is the output of fetchmail -V

This is fetchmail release 6.3.4+SSL+NLS.

Fallback MDA: (none)
Linux server.com 2.4.21-37.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed Sep 28 14:05:46 EDT 2005
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Taking options from command line and /user/.fetchmailrc
Poll interval is 60 seconds
Idfile is /user/.fetchids
Progress messages will be logged via syslog
Fetchmail will forward misaddressed multidrop messages to
an...@ba....
Options for retrieving from ab...@ou...:
  True name of server is server.ac.uk.
  Protocol is IMAP (using service 993).
  All available authentication methods will be tried.
  SSL encrypted sessions enabled.
  Server nonresponse timeout is 300 seconds (default).
  Default mailbox selected.
  Only new messages will be retrieved (--all off).
  Fetched messages will be kept on the server (--keep on).
  Old messages will not be flushed before message retrieval (--flush off).
  Oversized messages will not be flushed before message retrieval
(--limitflush off).
  Rewrite of server-local addresses is enabled (--norewrite off).
  Carriage-return stripping is disabled (stripcr off).
  Carriage-return forcing is disabled (forcecr off).
  Interpretation of Content-Transfer-Encoding is enabled (pass8bits off).
  MIME decoding is disabled (mimedecode off).
  Idle after poll is disabled (idle off).
  Nonempty Status lines will be kept (dropstatus off)
  Delivered-To lines will be kept (dropdelivered off)
  Fetch message size limit is 100 (--fetchsizelimit 100).
  Do binary search of UIDs during 3 out of 4 polls (--fastuidl 4).
  Messages will be SMTP-forwarded to: localhost (default)
  Single-drop mode: 1 local name recognized.
  No UIDs saved from this host.

Thanks in advance,
	Andres

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Andres Baravalle
http://www.baravalle.it

____________

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La stessa azione li allontana dalla loro meta.
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Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: "Seen" status disappears everytime

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Ratan Nalumasu wrote:
> Matthias:
>
> I think I understand the confusion on "read" vs. "unread"
> status.
> What I want is the mail on server to disappear and the mail on
> laptop to have "read" or "unread" according to what was on the
> server before the fetch started. What is happening is that the
> mail on the server is disappearing (as I want), but all mail on
> the laptop is unread (disconcerting).

OK, so you're starting with a message in your mailbox with a header of 
"Status: RO".  Programs on the server sees it as old and read.  fetchmail 
downloads with IMAP, and you no longer have that Status header telling 
your local elm that it's old and read.

I think the pop/imap server is the one removing the Status header, since 
that's just a feature of the mbox format that tells the mailreader (e.g. 
elm or the imap server) whether the mail is read.  It isn't intended to 
be preserved outside the mbox.

By the time fetchmail gets the message, that Status header is already 
gone; it has been translated into IMAP flags, which you're basically 
ignoring when you tell fetchmail to fetchall.

If I'm correct, what you're asking for is basically for fetchmail to look 
at those IMAP flags and translate them back into a Status header to be 
added to the mail.  I'm not sure that's a feature very likely to make it 
into fetchmail.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: "Seen" status disappears everytime

[Ratan N. <nal...@ya...>]

Matthias:

I think I understand the confusion on "read" vs. "unread"
status.
What I want is the mail on server to disappear and the mail on
laptop to have "read" or "unread" according to what was on the
server before the fetch started. What is happening is that the
mail on the server is disappearing (as I want), but all mail on
the laptop is unread (disconcerting).

--- Matthias Andree <mat...@gm...> wrote:

> Ratan Nalumasu <nal...@ya...> writes:
[...]
> > - The mailserver currently has IMAP and POP3 ports open,
> >   though POP3 may be closed in the future. There is no
> server
> >   on the POP3S port as we speak though.
> 
> Does the POP3 port offer STLS? If it does, no need for POP3S.

Yes, it does. Ok, at least one less thing to worry about.

[...]

> > - I sometimes read the mail directly on the mail server
> >   using squirrelmail and elm.
> 
> That will only work until fetchmail has downloaded the
> messages. After
> that, your requirement "empty mailbox after fetch" prevents
> that.

That is a good thing for me. I login to the mail sever or use
squirrelmail infrequently (e.g., when I am on the road and don't
have access to laptop). Once I am back in the office, I want to
fetch all the mails along with their status.

> > In these cases, the messages are being marked as Read on the
> server
> > ("Status: RO").  However, when I get them using fetchmail on
> IMAP
> > protocol, the Status line disappears in the fetched e-mail.
> 
> This looks a bit like a server issue. Fetchmail would mark
> downloaded
> messages read (rather than marking read messages unread), but
> as per
> your description the effect is quite the opposite.

I think here, you are stating that fetchmail would mark the
messages on the server as read, right? That is true. After this
step, as you find below, the fetchmail does mark it as deleted
and expunge it--that is good too. My trouble with the mail on
the laptop.

> What I find most peculiar though is that (judging from the -v
> -v log)
> fetchmail marks the messages as seen and deleted, sends an
> EXPUNGE
> command that logs the two messages as expunged, and apparently
> the
> messages are still there (else you wouldn't have messages
> marked unread,
> but the messages should be gone). Any idea?
> 
> > - When I fetch the same mail using fetchmail on POP3
> protocol,
> >   the "Status" fields are retained but it leads to a
> different
> >   problem: insufficient integration with ssh/ssh-agent.
> 
> Yes, that requires some experimenting on how exactly to start
> the
> server, and not all support it, since it's not standardized.
> 
[...]

Thanks much for the help
Ratan

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: "Seen" status disappears everytime

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Ratan Nalumasu <nal...@ya...> writes:

> Hi all:
>
> I am still struggling a bit with the configuration. As
> suggested, I am going to describe what I am trying to achieve
> and then explain what I have done so far.
>
> - I want to download mail from the mailserver to my laptop,
>   leaving an empty mailbox on the server.

That alone is easy. Don't use --keep and perhaps use --fetchall.

> - The mailserver currently has IMAP and POP3 ports open,
>   though POP3 may be closed in the future. There is no server
>   on the POP3S port as we speak though.

Does the POP3 port offer STLS? If it does, no need for POP3S.

> - Ideally, I don't want to enter the password to fetchmail,
>   but have it use my ssh-agent if available and fail if not.

Your configuration does that.

> - I sometimes read the mail directly on the mail server
>   using squirrelmail and elm.

That will only work until fetchmail has downloaded the messages. After
that, your requirement "empty mailbox after fetch" prevents that.

> In these cases, the messages are being marked as Read on the server
> ("Status: RO").  However, when I get them using fetchmail on IMAP
> protocol, the Status line disappears in the fetched e-mail.

This looks a bit like a server issue. Fetchmail would mark downloaded
messages read (rather than marking read messages unread), but as per
your description the effect is quite the opposite.

What I find most peculiar though is that (judging from the -v -v log)
fetchmail marks the messages as seen and deleted, sends an EXPUNGE
command that logs the two messages as expunged, and apparently the
messages are still there (else you wouldn't have messages marked unread,
but the messages should be gone). Any idea?

> - When I fetch the same mail using fetchmail on POP3 protocol,
>   the "Status" fields are retained but it leads to a different
>   problem: insufficient integration with ssh/ssh-agent.

Yes, that requires some experimenting on how exactly to start the
server, and not all support it, since it's not standardized.

> After some research, I tried the following to force it to use
> ssh; but the results were still not good: this configuration
> still asks for password; if I enter a bad password, the
> authentication fails: i.e., apparently, unlike imap server, the
> pop3 server has no preauthorized state.

Well, it's possible to trick some servers into a similar state, but
sometimes this requires wrapper scripts to get synchronization (who
talks first) right.

> ==== pop3, attempt#2 ===
> poll bitter with pop3 via localhost port 8005
>    uidl
>    preconnect "ssh -n -2 -a -C -f ratan@bitter -L
> 8005:bitter:110 sleep 5"
>
> ======
>
> Any suggestions on how I can get the mail while retaining the
> "Seen" flags exclusively using the ssh-agent for connection
> would be great.
>
> BTW, I tried fetchmail version 6.3.4 and 6.2.5.2 both with the
> same results.

The basic code and how it works is mostly unchanged, but 6.3.4 has a
slew of bugs less than 6.2.5.X, so you might want to stick with 6.3.4
nonetheless.

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Matthias Andree