fetchmail-users — User questions and discussion

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail not fetching after boot on FC5

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Catalin Rotaru" <cat...@gm...> writes:

>> > What else can I try?
>>
>> You can start by keeping traffic on the list, rather than emailing me
>> directly - as it says in my .sig.
>
> Oops, sorry about that. I just hit "Reply" without checking. My bad. I
> notice now that the list doesn't have a "Reply-To" header. Maybe one
> could be added? I am pretty sure MailMan supports it. Just an idea.

No way - as I said earlier, should the list set a Reply-To: header, I'm
outta here. Some mailers don't allow users to override Reply-To, but all
allow to include all To: and Cc: addresses in the reply.

Hit "List Reply" or "Reply to List" or "Group Reply" or "Reply to All".

See <http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html> for more information.

> Aaah, I was afraid you'd say that. I am no Linux (and especially
> Fedora) expert and my preferred way of installing software is "yum
> install". I am afraid of breaking even more stuff I don't understand
> if I try to install from source on my own.

Well, I am inclined to think Miloslav Trmac and other packagers were
careful enough or would chime in here if it was related to their
packaging.

With support respective to the Fedora boot issues, you may have to check
the Fedore Support options (probably also mailing list, forums or
newsgroups as well) as well.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchamil is very slow

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Shukla Vipul" <vip...@gm...> writes:

>     I am using fetchmail for downloading mails from server, but fetchmail is very slow i got my mail after
> 12hours i want to get it fast. as per i have searched ther is two parameter which i have to set that is
> fetchlimit and fetchsizelimit. but i dont know where i have to use these parameter  i have checked  ~
> /.fetchmailrc file also, i am not able to undestand how to modify it.

You need to check the manual page, type

  man fetchmail

to get the documentation.  If you still need support then, you'll have
to show ~/.fetchmailrc (MASK YOUR PASSWORDS!).

Also, be sure to use a recent fetchmail version, one of the later 6.3.X
versions is a good idea.

HTH,

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchamil is very slow

[Frederic M. <fre...@wo...>]

Shukla Vipul wrote:
> HI,
>
>     I am using fetchmail for downloading mails from server, but 
> fetchmail is very slow i got my mail after 12hours i want to get it 
> fast. as per i have searched ther is two parameter which i have to set 
> that is fetchlimit and fetchsizelimit. but i dont know where i have to 
> use these parameter  i have checked  ~/.fetchmailrc file also, i am 
> not able to undestand how to modify it.
What do you mean when you say your mails arrived after 12 hours ?

- does it take 12 hours to download the actual data of your mails (i.e 
the connection is slow);
- does it try to download the mails for 12 hours until it succeeds (a 
lot of connection failures);
- does it sit around and eventually fetch your mails (the poll delay is 
too long) ?

The first two cases, may not be related to fetchmail or its 
configuration file but some settings may help. The latter is the poll 
delay set by parameter "set daemon" in your fetchmailrc file. Mine looks 
like this (only the relevant lines shown):

# The default for this option is 300, which polls the server every 5
# minutes.
#
set daemon      300

Regarding your second question, the parameters should be defined in your 
fetchmailrc either in a default section like this:

defaults:
  uidl
  batchlimit 100
  fetchlimit 100
  flush

or in the poll command in fetchmailrc or on the command line (sorry, I 
have no example here :-).

Note: you must insert these commands in the fetchmailrc fetchmail is 
looking at (obvious, but I got caught there) ! It is ~/.fetchmailrc 
unless the -f option is given on the command line.

Frederic

Re: [fetchmail-users] Mails lost due to --flush option ?

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Frederic Marchal <fre...@wo...> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I quote the man page of version 6.3.2:
>
>       -F | --flush
>              POP3/IMAP only.  Delete old (previously retrieved) messages
> from the mailserver before retrieving  new  mes-
>              sages.  This  option  does  not  work  with ETRN or ODMR.
> Warning: if your local MTA hangs and fetchmail is
>              aborted, the next time you run fetchmail, it will delete
> mail that was never delivered  to  you.   What  you
>              probably  want  is  the default setting: if you don't
> specify `-k', then fetchmail will automatically delete
>              messages after successful delivery.
>
> Is it still true that a mail is lost if the MTA hangs  ? It sounds like
> a known bug and may have been fixed in the code but not in the man page.

Even if the code behaves better than the documentation suggests,
describing the "--flush" option in a scary way looks correct to me.

> I explain my situation: if the connection with the pop3 server drops,
> all the DELE commands are forgotten (as required by the pop3 protocol if
> I understand it right) and the mails reappear on the next poll. But
> since fetchmail knows about those messages, it ignores them and doesn't
> delete them either.

Well, that's an interesting scenario and fetchmail should probably be
fixed instead of fixing the potential workarounds. Only I need to think
how to handle servers that recycle UIDs (unfortunately, these are only
unique while the message is on the server, so fetchmail needs to know if
the server deletes the message or now).

Does this patch help your problem (without your adding --flush, that is)?
It is against fetchmail 6.3.4 but may also work against 6.3.2:

Index: driver.c
===================================================================
--- driver.c	(Revision 4818)
+++ driver.c	(Arbeitskopie)
@@ -781,7 +781,7 @@
 	else if (ctl->server.base_protocol->delete_msg
 		 && !suppress_delete
 		 && ((msgcode >= 0 && !ctl->keep)
-		     || (msgcode == MSGLEN_OLD && ctl->flush)
+		     || (msgcode == MSGLEN_OLD && (ctl->flush || !ctl->keep))
 		     || (msgcode == MSGLEN_TOOLARGE && ctl->limitflush)))
 	{
 	    (*deletions)++;

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail not fetching after boot on FC5

[Catalin R. <cat...@gm...>]

> > What else can I try?
>
> You can start by keeping traffic on the list, rather than emailing me
> directly - as it says in my .sig.

Oops, sorry about that. I just hit "Reply" without checking. My bad. I
notice now that the list doesn't have a "Reply-To" header. Maybe one
could be added? I am pretty sure MailMan supports it. Just an idea.

>
> Try installing a fresh copy of fetchmail.  It's likly that your
> upgrade, as isn't uncommon, broke something.  Ideally install from
> source (if you later want to replace it with one from an RPM that's
> your choice).

Aaah, I was afraid you'd say that. I am no Linux (and especially
Fedora) expert and my preferred way of installing software is "yum
install". I am afraid of breaking even more stuff I don't understand
if I try to install from source on my own.

Any pointers to where I can learn more about
installing/removing/reinstalling fetchmail on Fedora? With all
RedHat's idiosyncrasies and stuff?

Thanks,
Cata

[fetchmail-users] Fetchamil is very slow

[Shukla V. <vip...@gm...>]

HI,

    I am using fetchmail for downloading mails from server, but fetchmail is
very slow i got my mail after 12hours i want to get it fast. as per i have
searched ther is two parameter which i have to set that is fetchlimit and
fetchsizelimit. but i dont know where i have to use these parameter  i have
checked  ~/.fetchmailrc file also, i am not able to undestand how to modify
it.


Thanks
Vipul

Re: Problems with BCC (was: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail-users digest, Vol 1 #141 - 1 msg)

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

(And on that note, all future unedited digest subjects should be
caught by the spam filter and rejected by the admins)

On 5/8/06, Admin Att <att...@gm...> wrote:
> If i understood correctly aka is for servers that use your ISP, but one is
> from ISP and other is senders server which is always diffrent (at least much
> times) so how can i use aka except for putting ISP's server name.
>
>
> fetchmail: line accepted, MyISPname is an alias of the mailserver
> fetchmail: no Received address found
> fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
> Received: from testpc1 by mycompany.com
>         (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R)
>         with ESMTP id md50000169342.msg
>         for <te...@be...>; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:49:03 +0200
> fetchmail: line rejected, mycompany.com is not an alias of the mailserver
>
> i inserted one AKA as i said for ISP name..another aka would be in this case
> mycompany.com
> but what if mail is from gmail, or yahoo or whatever...?:)

Any vaguely competent ISP will provide a Delivered-to type header. 
The problem only occurs when your ISP is lacking in the clue
department.

The solution is simple, stop flogging the dead horse - multidrop will
*NEVER* reliably work when the ISP doesn't provide the required
headers.  Either switch ISP or stop trying to use multidrop with them.

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      Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail not fetching after boot on FC5

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/8/06, Catalin Rotaru <cat...@gm...> wrote:
> Done. The output file *gets* created on boot but it completely empty
> (0 bytes)... The strangest thing is that if I start fetchmail
> afterwards manually, it outputs the warning:
> "fetchmail: WARNING: Running as root is discouraged."
>
> What else can I try?

You can start by keeping traffic on the list, rather than emailing me
directly - as it says in my .sig.

Try installing a fresh copy of fetchmail.  It's likly that your
upgrade, as isn't uncommon, broke something.  Ideally install from
source (if you later want to replace it with one from an RPM that's
your choice).

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Rob MacGregor
      Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

[fetchmail-users] Mails lost due to --flush option ?

[Frederic M. <fre...@wo...>]

Hello,

I quote the man page of version 6.3.2:

       -F | --flush
              POP3/IMAP only.  Delete old (previously retrieved) 
messages from the mailserver before retrieving  new  mes-
              sages.  This  option  does  not  work  with ETRN or ODMR.  
Warning: if your local MTA hangs and fetchmail is
              aborted, the next time you run fetchmail, it will delete 
mail that was never delivered  to  you.   What  you
              probably  want  is  the default setting: if you don't 
specify `-k', then fetchmail will automatically delete
              messages after successful delivery.

Is it still true that a mail is lost if the MTA hangs  ? It sounds like 
a known bug and may have been fixed in the code but not in the man page.

I explain my situation: if the connection with the pop3 server drops, 
all the DELE commands are forgotten (as required by the pop3 protocol if 
I understand it right) and the mails reappear on the next poll. But 
since fetchmail knows about those messages, it ignores them and doesn't 
delete them either. They keep showing up in the UIDL at every poll and 
remain on the server until I delete them manually. The -F option solves 
this problem but I don't want to loose any mail.

Frederic

[fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail-users digest, Vol 1 #141 - 1 msg

[Admin A. <att...@gm...>]

If i understood correctly aka is for servers that use your ISP, but one is
from ISP and other is senders server which is always diffrent (at least much
times) so how can i use aka except for putting ISP's server name.


fetchmail: line accepted, MyISPname is an alias of the mailserver
fetchmail: no Received address found
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: from testpc1 by mycompany.com
        (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R)
        with ESMTP id md50000169342.msg
        for <te...@be...>; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:49:03 +0200
fetchmail: line rejected, mycompany.com is not an alias of the mailserver

i inserted one AKA as i said for ISP name..another aka would be in this case
mycompany.com
but what if mail is from gmail, or yahoo or whatever...?:)


Regards

> I didin't understand you correctly what you mean by : "Do you have details
> > in anything other than the Received headers?"
> > i copy/pasted my complete log with all what is happening with this conf
> file
> >  and variations of him.
> >
> > btw, i think biggets problem is that my isp is not adding anything they
> dont
> > get from original sender so no additional field i can not get from them
> > except fields that are included from original sender and that is usually
> > Received line
>
> See the email from Matthias - you may find that the aka option works
> for you.  However if it doesn't then you're out of luck.  Your ISP
> isn't providing enough information in the headers for multidrop to
> reliably work.
>
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>       Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
>         doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche
>
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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail not fetching after boot on FC5

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/7/06, Catalin Rotaru <cat...@gm...> wrote:
> The problem: right after booting, fetchmail doesn't do anything,
> although ps shows it as running. It doesn't fetch and it doesn't
> output *any* log.
>
> This started to happen after upgrading to Fedora Core 5 from FC4.

The lack of any log output suggests something very broken.  Can you
switch the "/dev/null" in the startup script to, say,
"/tmp/fetchmaillog" and reboot?  The OS is probably reporting
something that you're never seeing as it's being dropped in the bit
bucket.

The odds are that you're seeing it work on the command line because
your environment isn't the same as the boot environment.  Quite
possibly the settings regarding the library paths.

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      Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

[fetchmail-users] Fetchmail not fetching after boot on FC5

[Catalin R. <cat...@gm...>]

The problem: right after booting, fetchmail doesn't do anything,
although ps shows it as running. It doesn't fetch and it doesn't
output *any* log.

This started to happen after upgrading to Fedora Core 5 from FC4.

A simple restart (service fetchmail restart) gets it going, with
logging and fetching and all...

fetchmail --version
fetchmail: WARNING: Running as root is discouraged.
This is fetchmail release 6.3.4+IMAP-GSS+RPA+NTLM+SDPS+SSL+HESIOD+NLS.

uname -a
Linux foo.bar.net 2.6.16-1.2111_FC5 #1 Thu May 4 21:16:58 EDT 2006
i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

more /etc/fetchmailrc
#set daemon 100

poll foo.bar.com proto imap
  localdomains bar.net
  user "user" pass "pass" is "user" here
...

more /etc/init.d/fetchmail
...
FETCHMAIL=/usr/bin/fetchmail
FRC=/etc/fetchmailrc
TIME=100
start() {
  $FETCHMAIL -f $FRC -L /var/log/fetchmail -d $TIME >/dev/null 2>&1
}
...

Any clues?

Thanks!
Cata

Re: [fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

As it says in my .sig - DO NOT EMAIL ME DIRECTLY.

If you want help, keep traffic on the list.

On 5/5/06, Admin Att <att...@gm...> wrote:
>
> I didin't understand you correctly what you mean by : "Do you have details
> in anything other than the Received headers?"
> i copy/pasted my complete log with all what is happening with this conf file
>  and variations of him.
>
> btw, i think biggets problem is that my isp is not adding anything they dont
> get from original sender so no additional field i can not get from them
> except fields that are included from original sender and that is usually
> Received line

See the email from Matthias - you may find that the aka option works
for you.  However if it doesn't then you're out of luck.  Your ISP
isn't providing enough information in the headers for multidrop to
reliably work.

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      Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration (was: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :()

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/4/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:
> On 5/4/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:

<---SNIP--->
> >
> > .fethmailrc use this settings
> >
> > poll 72.29.74.211 protocol pop3
> >
> > user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> > 'de...@co...' here
> >
> > my mail in my inbox but not scanning spamm :(
> >
> > what do i do ?

The problem is related to your local SMTP server configuration, it has
nothing to do with fetchmail.  You need to resolve your qmail
configuration problems.

(I'd guess that mail from localhost/loopback isn't being scanned)

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Matthias Andree wrote:
> Please do not post HTML to mailing lists, see
> <http://www.expita.com/nomime.html>
>
> (Could someone with list admin privileges tell Mailman to strip
> text/html MIME parts please? Thanks)

Unfortunately Berlios is only running Mailman 2.0.13, so that option isn't 
there.  It appears to be a Mailman 2.1 feature.

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[fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Ozgur YILMAZ" <mr...@gm...> writes:

Please do not post HTML to mailing lists, see
<http://www.expita.com/nomime.html>

(Could someone with list admin privileges tell Mailman to strip
text/html MIME parts please? Thanks)

Also, please remember to reply to the list, not to me personally.

>     firstly thanks for your answer.
>     i have not one user it is only my test user
>     if it works, i will add a lot of domains and user
>      
>     i use fetchmail ---> fetch mail from external mail server
>     qmail ---> mda and pop3 server
>     SA ---> spam filter 

OK. You need to

1 - find out how to integrate qmail-scanner with qmail
    (that's in the qmail-scanner documentation)

2 - test if qmail-scanner is working, before you proceed

3 - if it works, integrate SpamAssassin into qmail-scanner.
    We cannot help here, that should be in the qmail-scanner
    documentation. Or ask on the qmail-scanner list.

4 - find out if you can use a better POP3 server than qmail's. qmail's
    POP3 server has security flaws and reports the wrong message sizes,
    thus it confuses clients.

My personal favorite setup would probably use Postfix + amavisd-new
(which integrates Spamassassin) + Dovecot or Courier-IMAP or Cyrus - but
vpopmail does not integrate well with these.

http://www.postfix.org/addon.html#config lists a few pointers should you
decide to switch.

>     .fethmailrc use this settings
>      
>     poll 72.29.74.211 protocol pop3
>    
>     user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
>     'de...@co...' here
>      
>     my mail in my inbox but not scanning spamm :(
>      
>     what do i do ?

The fetchmailrc part looks fine, so it would be a problem in your
qmail or qmail-scanner setup.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration (was: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :()

[Ozgur Y. <mr...@gm...>]

On 5/4/06, Ozgur YILMAZ <mr...@gm...> wrote:
>
>  Hello
>
> firstly thanks for your answer.
> i have not one user it is only my test user
> if it works, i will add a lot of domains and user
>
> i use fetchmail ---> fetch mail from external mail server
> qmail ---> mda and pop3 server
> SA ---> spam filter
>
> i want to fetch mail from external server to my internal server ( for 150
> user).
> and then i use spam filter and my user connect pop3 server and then
> recieve mail.
> is is possible
> it setup one and they work alone
>
> .fethmailrc use this settings
>
> poll 72.29.74.211 protocol pop3
>
> user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> 'de...@co...' here
>
>  my mail in my inbox but not scanning spamm :(
>
> what do i do ?
>
>
>
>
> On 5/3/06, Matthias Andree <mat...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > "Ozgur YILMAZ" <mr...@gm...> writes:
> >
> > > i want to local spam scanner for office
> > > i setup fetchmail + qmail + vpopmail + qmailscanner + SA
> > >
> > > i fetch mail by fetchmail and i recived qmail pop3
> > > and SA works test command but my fetch mail is not scanned by SA
> >
> > Özgür,
> >
> > qmail is not a modern MTA by any standard and full of flaws that other
> > MTAs do not share. <http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html>
> >
> > > here my .fetchmailrc
> > >
> > > poll my.externalserver.com protocol pop3
> > > user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> > > 'de...@co...' here
> > > mda "/usr/bin/spamc -e | /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-queue" ( i have
> > problem this line i do not write )
> >
> > What do you need vpopmail for if there is only one user?
> >
> > The MDA option doesn't look correct. Spamc expects a command after -e,
> > and qmail-queue programs (and substitutes) expect two file descriptors
> > for input. One for the envelope, one for the data.
> >
> > Is there a particular reason why you're using the "mda" option?
> > And then in a way that loses envelope information?
> >
> > I wonder how you are getting messages at all with this setup, you should
> > get something like:  /usr/bin/spamc: option requires an argument -- e
> >
> > Besides that, qmail-scanner claims to integrate with SpamAssassin - so
> > there should be some qmail-scanner documentation on that topic.
> >
> > Try checking the documentation and understanding or describing to
> > somebody
> >
> > - what you want to achieve
> >
> > - how you can get there
> >
> > rather than taking lines out of a context and trying them out.
> >
> > A systematic approach will probably be more successful than guessing
> > here.
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Andree
> >
>
>

Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Rob MacGregor" <rob...@gm...> writes:

> On 5/3/06, Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> wrote:
>> While I am no fan of qmail either, I would argue that by at least two
>> standards it is a "modern MTA":
>> - it does not use a monolithic architecture, using separate programs for
>> separate tasks
>> - it uses maildir to store mail, rather than mbox
>>   (OK, this one isn't technically an MTA issue, but an MDA issue)
>>
>> I'm still amazed at the number of people still using sendmail....
>
> Which also doesn't use a monolitic architecture (ok, so it's only 2
> daemons, but it's a step in the right direction) or maildir...

Ah well, if you want Maildir underneath sendmail, you can always install
maildrop and use it as filter application or mailer. At least sendmail
is actively maintained so its security holes get plugged in reasonable
time. qmail's holes are open for like eight years now...

For a change of subject, the best MTA is fetchmail, of course. =:->

> Now, can we stop this evangelising over the best/worst choice of MTA :-)

Agreed. And cows can't tile a roof. :-)

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Admin Att" <att...@gm...> writes:

> Hi all
> i installed fetchmail few days ago and since then i have problem with BCC
> field.

See http://home.pages.de/~mandree/mail/multidrop to see which multidrop
scenarios work reliably and which don't.

Many MTAS omit the recipient from Received: headers when there is more
than one as is the case in Bcc setups, although that does not appear to
be the problem here (but it might if you wrote to two different Bcc:
recipients of your own domain)

> reading message myp...@po...:1 of 1 (8652 octets)
> fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
> Received: for < te...@my... >
> fetchmail: no Received address found       <---- !!!???? how is this logical!?

fetchmail expects a "by some.host.name for <so...@ex...>" format,
and also performs some checking on some.host.name - if that doesn't fit,
it doesn't accept the address.

> Received: from testpc1 by mycompany.com
>         (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R)
>         with ESMTP id md50000169342.msg
>         for <te...@my...>; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:49:03 +0200
> fetchmail: line rejected, mycompany.com is not an alias of the mailserver

So it likes this header better because it has the "by mycompany.com"
before "for <te...@my...>" - but doesn't accept the "by"
part.  You might trick fetchmail into believing that by adding

aka mycompany.com

to your configuration (before the "user" keyword). I don't know if that
works though -- no guarantees.

I suggest:

1. check if there is a better header. If not, try to arrange for one,
   such as X-Original-To, Envelope-To, Delivered-To. See the URL above,
   and feel free to quote the URL to your ISP. If you have got a better
   header, adjust the Envelope option accordingly.

2. do not run fetchmail as root - that's a basic safety measure to limit
   impact should a bug I have overseen be discovered. Since you are
   forwarding via SMTP, fetchmail does not need root privileges.

   Create a "fetchmail" user, copy /etc/fetchmailrc
   to ~fetchmail/.fetchmailrc and use this command to start fetchmail
   under the fetchmail user account:

   su fetchmail -c "fetchmail"

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/3/06, Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> wrote:
> While I am no fan of qmail either, I would argue that by at least two
> standards it is a "modern MTA":
> - it does not use a monolithic architecture, using separate programs for
> separate tasks
> - it uses maildir to store mail, rather than mbox
>   (OK, this one isn't technically an MTA issue, but an MDA issue)
>
> I'm still amazed at the number of people still using sendmail....

Which also doesn't use a monolitic architecture (ok, so it's only 2
daemons, but it's a step in the right direction) or maildir...

Now, can we stop this evangelising over the best/worst choice of MTA :-)

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      Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: [fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 5/3/06, Admin Att <att...@gm...> wrote:
> poll pop.myisp.com proto pop3
>  aka MyISPname envelope 0 Received localdomains mytestdomain.com
> mail.mytestdomain.com:
> user mypop3user with pass mypass is * here
>
> - i tried with envelope 0 1 2 (but thats not logical regardin in first line

Do you have details in anything other than the Received headers?  If
not then you're in a hiding to nothing.  Please see the man page for
warnings for the problems of abusing this header for envelope
information.

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      Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he
        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

[fetchmail-users] Re: fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Matthias Andree wrote:
> qmail is not a modern MTA by any standard and full of flaws that other
> MTAs do not share. <http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html>

While I am no fan of qmail either, I would argue that by at least two 
standards it is a "modern MTA":
- it does not use a monolithic architecture, using separate programs for 
separate tasks
- it uses maildir to store mail, rather than mbox
  (OK, this one isn't technically an MTA issue, but an MDA issue)

I'm still amazed at the number of people still using sendmail....

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 Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> |Never sees what kind of room that it's in"
 http://www.funknet.net/rfunk |    -- Chris Mars, "Stuck in Rewind"

[fetchmail-users] help needed - BCC problem

[Admin A. <att...@gm...>]

Hi all
i installed fetchmail few days ago and since then i have problem with BCC
field. I sent from mycompany domain mail to yahoo mail and to testdomain in
BCC field.
Fethcmail is working with regular To/Cc mails

I tried many variations and neither helped.
I hope anyone can find problem.

----------------------------------------------
here is my conf file for fetchmail

poll pop.myisp.com proto pop3
 aka MyISPname envelope 0 Received localdomains mytestdomain.com
mail.mytestdomain.com:
user mypop3user with pass mypass is * here

- i tried with envelope 0 1 2 (but thats not logical regardin in first line
i see correct e-mail from Received line.
dunno if ":" after domain name is needed, but i tried with and without.
- i tried withouth aka MyISPname and with it...

-----------------------------------------------
i have installed postfix/cyrus imapd/mysql/web cyradm - combo and all is
working ok except mentioned above.


here is log from  fetchmail -v -v

==========================================

linux-mail:# fetchmail -v -v -f .fetchmailrc
fetchmail: WARNING: Running as root is discouraged.
fetchmail: 6.3.4 querying pop.myisp.com (protocol POP3) at Wed Apr 26
13:43:18 2006:

poll started
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 Server Ready <285...@my...>
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR
fetchmail: Repoll immediately on beb...@po...
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP3 Server Ready <285...@my...>
fetchmail: POP3> USER mypop3user
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 8652
fetchmail: POP3> LAST
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR
fetchmail: POP3> UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3< 1 <0.0...@my...>
fetchmail: 1 is unseen
fetchmail: POP3< .
1 message for mypop3user at pop.myisp.com (8652 octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 8652
fetchmail: POP3> TOP 1 99999999
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
reading message myp...@po...:1 of 1 (8652 octets)
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: for <te...@my... >
fetchmail: no Received address found       <---- !!!???? how is this
logical!?
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: from gateway.mycompany.com [XXX.XXX.XX.XX ] by MyISPname with SMTP
on Wed,

26 Apr 2006 13:44:17 +0200
fetchmail: line accepted, MyISPname is an alias of the mailserver
fetchmail: no Received address found
fetchmail: analyzing Received line:
Received: from testpc1 by mycompany.com
        (MDaemon.PRO.v8.1.5.R)
        with ESMTP id md50000169342.msg
        for <te...@my...>; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:49:03 +0200
fetchmail: line rejected, mycompany.com is not an alias of the mailserver
About to rewrite From: "John" <jo...@my...>
Rewritten version is From: "John" <jo...@my...>

About to rewrite To: "'John'" <joh...@ya... >
Rewritten version is To: "'John'" <joh...@ya...>

fetchmail: no local matches, forwarding to postmaster
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 mail.mytestdomain.com ESMTP Postfix (2.2.9)
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO linux-mail
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-mail.mytestdomain.com
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE 10240000
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-VRFY
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-ETRN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 8BITMIME
fetchmail: forwarding to localhost
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<jo...@my...> SIZE=8652
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<postmaster@localhost >
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
#*******************************************************.***************************


****************.****************************.****************************.*********

*********************.**************.*************.**********fetchmail:
message

myp...@po...:1 was not the expected length (8687 actual != 8652

expected)
fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 Ok: queued as 7048A6F4E3
 flushed
fetchmail: POP3> DELE 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 Bye
fetchmail: 6.3.4 querying pop.myisp.com (protocol POP3) at Wed Apr 26
13:43:19 2006:

poll completed
fetchmail: swapping UID lists
fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file.
fetchmail: normal termination, status 0
fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file.



Best Regards and tnx in advance

fetchmail/qmail/-scanner/SpamAss. integration (was: [fetchmail-users] Hello i have problem :()

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Ozgur YILMAZ" <mr...@gm...> writes:

> i want to local spam scanner for office
> i setup fetchmail + qmail + vpopmail + qmailscanner + SA
>  
> i fetch mail by fetchmail and i recived qmail pop3
> and SA works test command but my fetch mail is not scanned by SA

Özgür,

qmail is not a modern MTA by any standard and full of flaws that other
MTAs do not share. <http://home.pages.de/~mandree/qmail-bugs.html>

> here my .fetchmailrc
>  
> poll my.externalserver.com protocol pop3
> user 'oz...@ne...' there with password 'mypass' is
> 'de...@co...' here
> mda "/usr/bin/spamc -e | /var/spool/qmailscan/qmail-queue" ( i have problem this line i do not write )

What do you need vpopmail for if there is only one user?

The MDA option doesn't look correct. Spamc expects a command after -e,
and qmail-queue programs (and substitutes) expect two file descriptors
for input. One for the envelope, one for the data.

Is there a particular reason why you're using the "mda" option?
And then in a way that loses envelope information?

I wonder how you are getting messages at all with this setup, you should
get something like:  /usr/bin/spamc: option requires an argument -- e

Besides that, qmail-scanner claims to integrate with SpamAssassin - so
there should be some qmail-scanner documentation on that topic.

Try checking the documentation and understanding or describing to somebody

- what you want to achieve

- how you can get there

rather than taking lines out of a context and trying them out.

A systematic approach will probably be more successful than guessing here.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] Exchange server and attachment

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Andres Baravalle <an...@ba...> writes:

> here is my configuration file:
>
> set postmaster "an...@ba..."
> set bouncemail
> set daemon 60
> set syslog
>
> poll *******
>      protocol imap
>      port 993
>      user '****'
>      pass '****'
>      is and...@ba...
>      ssl
>      keep
>
>> For the first, try "fetchmail --nosyslog -v -v".  It's likely you're
>> logging to syslog if there is not output on stdout.
>
> no output again...

Andres,

Rob didn't know about the "set daemon 60" option which sends output to
/dev/null. You can override that option with with "-d0" or "--daemon 0"
on the command line, or, if you want to leave fetchmail in daemon mode,
the "--nodetach" (-N) option keeps output on your screen while in daemon
mode. (With syslog enabled, i. e. omitting the --nosyslog, the mail log
file, often /var/log/mail or /var/log/maillog, will contain that
information -- perhaps you need to tell syslog via /etc/syslog.conf to
capture mail.debug logging.)

Rob,

I have adjusted the G3 item of the FAQ <http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-FAQ.html#G3>
to suggest "--nosyslog --nodetach -vvv"
(option merging is safe BTW since fetchmail ships a copy of GNU getopt,
so the comand line capabilities do not depend on system libraries).

> Connecting to my work server works with thunderbird, both on windows and
> on Linux.

Well, fetchmail appears to be doing something differently than
Thunderbird then. The new command line ("fetchmail --nosyslog -Nvv" or 
"fetchmail --nosyslog -vvd0") will hopefully provide us with some detail.

> Hope

yes?

HTH,

-- 
Matthias Andree