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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Zimbra

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 12/5/06, Richardus Alim <al...@ga...> wrote:
>
> The problem is when I disabled DNS lookup in Zimbra conf the fetchmail
> worked good
> (fetchmail can retrieve mail in remote MTA and send them to my local MTA)
> but if I enabled DNS lookup It didn't work.
> Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/lmtp[11957]: DAA00ACB66: to=<al...@xy...>,
> relay=none, delay=1, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name
> service error for name=mail.xyz.com type=A: Host not found)

That's an error from postfix.

> Do I have setup a DNS Server in my local MTA ??

Well, that's generally a good idea (or at leasts the host needs to
have DNS resolution working).  I can't see why you'd want to disable
DNS lookups, but you obviously have your reasons.

Possibly alternatively, ensure that postfix/Zimbra know to accept the
mail for xyz.com.

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[fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Zimbra

[Richardus A. <al...@ga...>]

Does any body have experience with zimbra & fetchmail ?
My local MTA:
CentOS 4.4
Zimbra zcs-4.0.4_GA_457.RHEL4
Fetchmail 6.2.5

I've just setup local MTA using zimbra and I want to retrive email from 
remote MTA (mail.test.com) below is my .fetchmail conf

set admin "ad...@xy..."
set syslog
set daemon 180

poll mail.test.com proto pop3
	user "alim" there with pass "123456" is "al...@xy..." here
	keep

The problem is when I disabled DNS lookup in Zimbra conf the fetchmail
worked good
(fetchmail can retrieve mail in remote MTA and send them to my local MTA)
but if I enabled DNS lookup It didn't work.

This is my maillog

Dec  5 01:45:50 mail fetchmail[11810]: POP3< +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3
server version 5.5.2653.23 signing off
Dec  5 01:45:50 mail fetchmail[11810]: 6.2.5 querying mail.test.com
(protocol POP3) at Tue 05 Dec 2006 01:45:50 AM UTC: poll completed
Dec  5 01:45:50 mail fetchmail[11810]: SMTP> QUIT
Dec  5 01:45:50 mail postfix/smtpd[11584]: disconnect from
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Dec  5 01:45:50 mail fetchmail[11810]: SMTP< 221 Bye
Dec  5 01:45:50 mail fetchmail[11810]: sleeping at Tue 05 Dec 2006 01:45:50
AM UTC
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/smtpd[11804]: connect from
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/smtpd[11804]: DAA00ACB66:
client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/cleanup[11585]: DAA00ACB66:
message-id=<215...@ma...>
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/qmgr[7440]: DAA00ACB66: from=<al...@xy...>,
size=2592, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/smtpd[11804]: disconnect from
localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/smtp[11800]: 6792AACB63: to=<al...@xy...>,
relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=2, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, id=05197-01,
from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 250 Ok: queued as DAA00ACB66)
Dec  5 01:45:52 mail postfix/qmgr[7440]: 6792AACB63: removed
Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/lmtp[11957]: DAA00ACB66: to=<al...@xy...>,
relay=none, delay=1, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name
service error for name=mail.xyz.com type=A: Host not found)
Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/cleanup[11585]: 1E2DFACB69:
message-id=<200...@ma...>
Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/qmgr[7440]: 1E2DFACB69: from=<>, size=4439,
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/qmgr[7440]: DAA00ACB66: removed
Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/lmtp[11957]: 1E2DFACB69: to=<al...@xy...>,
relay=none, delay=0, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name
service error for name=mail.xyz.com type=A: Host not found)
Dec  5 01:45:53 mail postfix/qmgr[7440]: 1E2DFACB69: removed


Do I have setup a DNS Server in my local MTA ??


Alim

Re: [fetchmail-users] 'keep' and 'uidl'.

[Stuart J. B. <sjb...@bl...>]

Yup, that's it.

Thanks

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fet...@li...
> [mailto:fet...@li...]On Behalf Of Rob
> MacGregor
> Sent: Friday, 1 December 2006 15:57 PM
> To: fet...@li...
> Subject: Re: [fetchmail-users] 'keep' and 'uidl'.
> 
> 
> On 11/30/06, Stuart J. Browne <sjb...@bl...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Running fetchmail 6.3.5 as a single-instance (not in daemon 
> mode) with the
> > options below, it continuously gets the first 20 messages, instead of
> > ignoring those it's downloaded, and getting the fresh messages.
> 
> You're using "keep" (don't delete any messages) and "fetchall"
> (download all messages, even those we've seen before), along with a
> limit of 20.
> 
> You're NEVER going to get beyond those initial 20.  Drop the
> "fetchall" line and you'll probably have more luck (and I'm pretty
> sure 6.3.x will print warnings when you combine keep, fetchall and
> daemon mode).
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Re: [fetchmail-users] 'keep' and 'uidl'.

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 11/30/06, Stuart J. Browne <sjb...@bl...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Running fetchmail 6.3.5 as a single-instance (not in daemon mode) with the
> options below, it continuously gets the first 20 messages, instead of
> ignoring those it's downloaded, and getting the fresh messages.

You're using "keep" (don't delete any messages) and "fetchall"
(download all messages, even those we've seen before), along with a
limit of 20.

You're NEVER going to get beyond those initial 20.  Drop the
"fetchall" line and you'll probably have more luck (and I'm pretty
sure 6.3.x will print warnings when you combine keep, fetchall and
daemon mode).

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        doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche

[fetchmail-users] 'keep' and 'uidl'.

[Stuart J. B. <sjb...@bl...>]

Hi,

Running fetchmail 6.3.5 as a single-instance (not in daemon mode) with the
options below, it continuously gets the first 20 messages, instead of
ignoring those it's downloaded, and getting the fresh messages.

The 20 messages which are fetched are delivered no problem, it just not
getting the next 20, or any after that.

Can anybody see anything that I'm doing wrong, or is this an issue that
needs to be addressed?

Note: I've also tried the Cmdline with '--fastuidl' of 0-4 with no success.

Bkx

-- Config - "poll-file" (0600) --
poll pop.mail.yahoo.com
protocol POP3
port 110
uidl
timeout 120
user 'user-hidden'
with pass 'pass-hidden'
is 'local-user-hidden _at_ local-domain-hidden' here
smtp host d_mx0,d_mx1
options
limit 31457280
fetchlimit 20
fetchall
antispam 451,553,550,554
keep
-- Config --

-- Cmdline --
/usr/bin/fetchmail -v -i /root/fetchmail/pop.mail.yahoo.com.fetchid -f
poll-file
-- Cmdline --

-- pop.mail.yahoo.com.fetchid (0600) --
use...@po... ALNk/NgAAXtuRVCsRQZTnzZYj5Q
use...@po... AK9k/NgAAClARVCyoABgRVtCONM
use...@po... ALFk/NgAAWDPRVJqpghrVRZ1HNQ
use...@po... ALJk/NgAAPkIRVMHZQDU2nNO90M
use...@po... ALNk/NgAATMIRVq9AAeEGivA9o0
use...@po... ALBk/NgAAH2nRVy2/gc5FC7c0n0
use...@po... ALRk/NgAAEQzRV2ZXQdhqAkSW7Y
use...@po... ALFk/NgAANYlRV269wuGYTGAFmg
use...@po... ALVk/NgAATtFRV4UqgW0Yzie3M0
use...@po... AK5k/NgAAD6ARWDsDgIZOjyzDlE
use...@po... AKxk/NgAAX4QRWcSKQhWolt8TrM
use...@po... AK9k/NgAAWwiRWdOSgfYiCnKXd8
use...@po... AKxk/NgAAMw7RWhnDwu+RWUg1XA
use...@po... AKtk/NgAARDGRWmCWw0G9EmkZPQ
use...@po... AK5k/NgAAJ1SRWmhEgSgxm1kXWk
use...@po... ALJk/NgAAP3kRWnPoQpUVlb2e6M
use...@po... AK9k/NgAAVtURWqsDw800xb3wsU
use...@po... ALJk/NgAAKNgRWtSAAeRgSuaXr4
use...@po... AKpk/NgAAKUQRWtfIw8BGRB528A
use...@po... ALBk/NgAAXA8RWt1TQFjWj6hoBQ
-- pop.mail.yahoo.com.fetchid --

-- CMD Output (modified) --
fetchmail: WARNING: Running as root is discouraged.
fetchmail: 6.3.5 querying pop.mail.yahoo.com (protocol POP3) at Thu Nov 30
20:29:03 2006: poll started
Trying to connect to 68.142.206.14/110...connected.
fetchmail: POP3< +OK hello from popgate(2.35.8)
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< +OK CAPA list follows
fetchmail: POP3< IMPLEMENTATION popgate 2.35.8
fetchmail: POP3< PIPELINING
fetchmail: POP3< TOP
fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< USER
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> USER user-hidden
fetchmail: POP3< +OK password required.
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< +OK maildrop ready, 26 messages (1042379 octets) (33339166
2147483648)
fetchmail: POP3> STAT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 26 1042379
fetchmail: POP3> UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 26 messages (1042379 octets)
fetchmail: POP3< 1 ALNk/NgAAXtuRVCsRQZTnzZYj5Q
fetchmail: POP3< 2 AK9k/NgAAClARVCyoABgRVtCONM
fetchmail: POP3< 3 ALFk/NgAAWDPRVJqpghrVRZ1HNQ
fetchmail: POP3< 4 ALJk/NgAAPkIRVMHZQDU2nNO90M
fetchmail: POP3< 5 ALNk/NgAATMIRVq9AAeEGivA9o0
fetchmail: POP3< 6 ALBk/NgAAH2nRVy2/gc5FC7c0n0
fetchmail: POP3< 7 ALRk/NgAAEQzRV2ZXQdhqAkSW7Y
fetchmail: POP3< 8 ALFk/NgAANYlRV269wuGYTGAFmg
fetchmail: POP3< 9 ALVk/NgAATtFRV4UqgW0Yzie3M0
fetchmail: POP3< 10 AK5k/NgAAD6ARWDsDgIZOjyzDlE
fetchmail: POP3< 11 AKxk/NgAAX4QRWcSKQhWolt8TrM
fetchmail: POP3< 12 AK9k/NgAAWwiRWdOSgfYiCnKXd8
fetchmail: POP3< 13 AKxk/NgAAMw7RWhnDwu+RWUg1XA
fetchmail: POP3< 14 AKtk/NgAARDGRWmCWw0G9EmkZPQ
fetchmail: POP3< 15 AK5k/NgAAJ1SRWmhEgSgxm1kXWk
fetchmail: POP3< 16 ALJk/NgAAP3kRWnPoQpUVlb2e6M
fetchmail: POP3< 17 AK9k/NgAAVtURWqsDw800xb3wsU
fetchmail: POP3< 18 ALJk/NgAAKNgRWtSAAeRgSuaXr4
fetchmail: POP3< 19 AKpk/NgAAKUQRWtfIw8BGRB528A
fetchmail: POP3< 20 ALBk/NgAAXA8RWt1TQFjWj6hoBQ
fetchmail: POP3< 21 ALZk/NgAAWWnRW3DjwcxUl0GTYQ
fetchmail: POP3< 22 AK5k/NgAAHnoRW3HtQMMxi7+nFU
fetchmail: POP3< 23 AK9k/NgAAOU+RW3nZgnIvH8jhLU
fetchmail: POP3< 24 ALBk/NgAAKc7RW9CGgNu2SCRwTg
fetchmail: POP3< 25 ALNk/NgAABvVRW+KiAV/RDcxBmw
fetchmail: POP3< 26 ALJk/NgAASjYRW+LZQzE6ED8lXg
fetchmail: POP3< .
26 messages (20 seen) for user-hidden at pop.mail.yahoo.com (1042379
octets).
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 647030
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 647030 octets
reading message use...@po...:1 of 26 (647030
octets)
fetchmail: getaddrinfo("host","smtp") error: Name or service not known
Trying to connect to ip-hidden/25...connected.
fetchmail: SMTP< 220 d_mx0 ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.1/8.13.1; Thu, 30 Nov 2006
20:29:05 -0800
fetchmail: SMTP> EHLO sandbox
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-d_mx0 Hello sandbox [ip-hidden], pleased to meet you
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-PIPELINING
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-8BITMIME
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-SIZE 41943040
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-DSN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-ETRN
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-STARTTLS
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-DELIVERBY
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 HELP
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<--hidden--> SIZE=647030
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.1.0 <--hidden-->... Sender ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<local-user-hidden _at_ local-domain-hidden>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.1.5 <local-user-hidden _at_ local-domain-hidden>...
Recipient ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
#*<snip>fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.0.0 kB14T5Vd023263 Message accepted for delivery
 not flushed
fetchmail: POP3> LIST 2
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2 10204
fetchmail: POP3> RETR 2
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 10204 octets
reading message use...@po...:2 of 26 (10204
octets)
fetchmail: SMTP> MAIL FROM:<--hidden--> SIZE=10204
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.1.0 <--hidden-->... Sender ok
fetchmail: SMTP> RCPT TO:<local-user-hidden _at_ local-domain-hidden>
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.1.5 <local-user-hidden _at_ local-domain-hidden>...
Recipient ok
fetchmail: SMTP> DATA
fetchmail: SMTP< 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself
#*<snip>fetchmail: SMTP>. (EOM)
fetchmail: SMTP< 250 2.0.0 kB14T5Ve023263 Message accepted for delivery
 not flushed
<snip - repeat for 20 messages>
fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: POP3< +OK server signing off.
fetchmail: SMTP> QUIT
fetchmail: SMTP< 221 2.0.0 d_mx0 closing connection
fetchmail: 6.3.5 querying pop.mail.yahoo.com (protocol POP3) at Thu Nov 30
20:30:05 2006: poll completed
fetchmail: Query status=13 (MAXFETCH)
fetchmail: normal termination, status 13
-- CMD Output (modified)--

Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Volker Kuhlmann <hi...@pa...> writes:

>> 3. Does fetchmail re-probe capabilities in daemon mode for the 2nd and
>> subsequent polls? It shouldn't.
>
> What if fetchmail runs for 3 months, and the server changed 2.5 months
> ago? And with *ix, 3 months is nothing.

In that case, the way out is to have fetchmail re-execute itself.  To
achieve that, just touch the run control file ($HOME/.fetchmailrc, for
instance) - if the mtime increases, fetchmail restarts.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Jakob Hirsch <jh...@pl...> writes:

> Quoting Matthias Andree:
>
>> 1. You did not ask for SSL, but you did probably not prohibit TLS
>> either, so fetchmail will - that's its default - look if it has the
>> opportunity to use TLS.  Using 'sslproto ""' should defeat this CAPA
>> probe. This goes along with <http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-FAQ.html#K6>
>
> Ok, I get that. Setting sslproto to an empty string prevents CAPA,
> indeed. But that wasn't necessary in rc3 (and AFAIR, many versions
> before). Not that it bothers me much, I just wonder why this changed.

That's actually a bug fix, but the necessary detail is missing from the
NEWS file - I've just committed that information to SVN (rev. 4979).

It wasn't necessary to suppress these with previous versions, because
6.3.6-rc3/6.3.5 and older were broken and didn't always probe when they
should have.

CAPA is a requisite for TLS, but these older versions only probe
capabilities (which is a requisite for TLS) if you configure no specific
authentication for a certain server (but let fetchmail guess), or
configure GSSAPI, Kerberos V4, OTP or CRAM-MD5.

(For some undocumented reason, Kerberos V5 hasn't been in this list, I
presume that was an oversight.)

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Volker K. <hi...@pa...>]

> 3. Does fetchmail re-probe capabilities in daemon mode for the 2nd and
> subsequent polls? It shouldn't.

What if fetchmail runs for 3 months, and the server changed 2.5 months
ago? And with *ix, 3 months is nothing.

Volker

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Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Jakob H. <jh...@pl...>]

Quoting Matthias Andree:

> 1. You did not ask for SSL, but you did probably not prohibit TLS
> either, so fetchmail will - that's its default - look if it has the
> opportunity to use TLS.  Using 'sslproto ""' should defeat this CAPA
> probe. This goes along with <http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-FAQ.html#K6>

Ok, I get that. Setting sslproto to an empty string prevents CAPA,
indeed. But that wasn't necessary in rc3 (and AFAIR, many versions
before). Not that it bothers me much, I just wonder why this changed.

> 3. Does fetchmail re-probe capabilities in daemon mode for the 2nd and
> subsequent polls? It shouldn't.

I don't know, I use cron.

Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Jakob Hirsch schrieb am 2006-11-29:

> But why the superfluous CAPA? I know the server does not support SSL or
> TLS, and I have no "ssl" for it in my fetchmailrc, so why look for it at
> all? It probably does not harm much, but I think we should not bother
> the server unnecessarily, so the extra connect should be avoided. We
> could instead try to login despite of the failed CAPA, and only
> reconnect after this login failed (which will surely happen with some
> servers).

1. You did not ask for SSL, but you did probably not prohibit TLS
either, so fetchmail will - that's its default - look if it has the
opportunity to use TLS.  Using 'sslproto ""' should defeat this CAPA
probe. This goes along with <http://www.fetchmail.info/fetchmail-FAQ.html#K6>

2. ESR got reports that some servers dropped the connection later on
when probed for capabilities, and a reconnect was chosen as a solution.
I don't know many of the details though, if someone knows URLs off-hand,
let me know. I'm a bit loathe to change this part of the behavior at
this time though.

Given that CAPA doesn't cause state change, servers that change behavior
after "reconnect without CAPA" are broken anyways.

3. Does fetchmail re-probe capabilities in daemon mode for the 2nd and
subsequent polls? It shouldn't.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Jakob H. <jh...@pl...>]

Quoting Matthias Andree:

> Thank you very much for testing this.
> The attached patch should cure this.

You're welcome. Thanks for the patch, looks better now:

> fetchmail: 6.3.6-rc4 querying pop.guru.de (protocol POP3) at Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:33:36 +0100 (CET): poll started
> Trying to connect to 212.11.227.194/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK b1gPOP3 2-1.22 Linux (guru.de) ready
> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
> fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Unknown command (in this session state): "CAPA"
> fetchmail: Unknown command (in this session state): "CAPA"
> fetchmail: Repoll immediately on jh...@gu...@pop.guru.de
> Trying to connect to 212.11.227.194/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK b1gPOP3 2-1.22 Linux (guru.de) ready
> fetchmail: POP3> USER xx...@gu...
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Need password for jh...@gu...
> fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Logged in, you have 0 message(s) in your mailbox (0 octets)


But why the superfluous CAPA? I know the server does not support SSL or
TLS, and I have no "ssl" for it in my fetchmailrc, so why look for it at
all? It probably does not harm much, but I think we should not bother
the server unnecessarily, so the extra connect should be avoided. We
could instead try to login despite of the failed CAPA, and only
reconnect after this login failed (which will surely happen with some
servers).

Re: [fetchmail-users] getting better error messages out of fetchmail

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Ian! D. Allen" <id...@id...> writes:

> Please do consider an enhancement to tell us both (1) the .fetchmailrc
> name and (2) the userid for connections that fail.  Editing output to
> remove excess verbosity (e.g. using "sed") is easy; it's impossible to
> invent output that isn't there.

Ian,

thank you for the other example. It would surely be nice to have a good
session identification (rcfile, if given; user, server, port and perhaps
folder for IMAP) logged along with the problem.

This, too, will only be fixed for 6.3.7, which will not happen too soon,
probably not this year any more.

Best regards,

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Jakob Hirsch <jh...@pl...> writes:

> Quoting Matthias Andree:
>
> It worked here:
>
>> fetchmail: 6.3.6-rc3 querying pop.guru.de (protocol POP3) at Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:58:09 +0100 (CET): poll started
>> Trying to connect to 212.11.227.194/110...connected.
>> fetchmail: POP3< +OK b1gPOP3 2-1.22 Linux (guru.de) ready
>> fetchmail: POP3> USER xx...@gu...
>> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Need password for xx...@gu...
>> fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
>> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Logged in, you have 0 message(s) in your mailbox (0 octets)
> ...

Thank you very much for testing this.
The attached patch should cure this.

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-users] getting better error messages out of fetchmail

[Ian! D. A. <id...@id...>]

> > I'm finding it awkward to make fetchmail give me just the right
> > amount of detail about the messages that are being rejected.
> I'll make a note and see if this can be addressed for 6.3.7 

Below is another example of not enough detail.  I query two machines:

    fetchmail: No mail for idallen at localhost
    fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)

Obviously the first one worked, telling me what userid and what entry in
my .fetchmailrc was used.  The second query failed; but, no information
is printed about it.  It gets worse when querying more than one machine:

    fetchmail: No mail for idallen at localhost
    fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
    fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
    fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
    fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
    fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)

Which ones failed?  Which userids?  Sometimes I'm at least told the
.fetchmailrc entry of the error but not the userid being polled:

    fetchmail: timeout after 60 seconds waiting for server localhost.
    fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching from localhost
    fetchmail: Query status=7 (ERROR)
    fetchmail: timeout after 60 seconds waiting for server localhost.
    fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching from localhost
    fetchmail: Query status=7 (ERROR)

Please do consider an enhancement to tell us both (1) the .fetchmailrc
name and (2) the userid for connections that fail.  Editing output to
remove excess verbosity (e.g. using "sed") is easy; it's impossible to
invent output that isn't there.

Thanks for a very useful program.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] [fetchmail-announce] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Jakob H. <jh...@pl...>]

Quoting Matthias Andree:

It worked here:

> fetchmail: 6.3.6-rc3 querying pop.guru.de (protocol POP3) at Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:58:09 +0100 (CET): poll started
> Trying to connect to 212.11.227.194/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK b1gPOP3 2-1.22 Linux (guru.de) ready
> fetchmail: POP3> USER xx...@gu...
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Need password for xx...@gu...
> fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Logged in, you have 0 message(s) in your mailbox (0 octets)
...

but not anymore...

> fetchmail: 6.3.6-rc4 querying pop.guru.de (protocol POP3) at Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:59:54 +0100 (CET): poll started
> Trying to connect to 212.11.227.194/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK b1gPOP3 2-1.22 Linux (guru.de) ready
> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
> fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Unknown command (in this session state): "CAPA"
> fetchmail: Unknown command (in this session state): "CAPA"
> fetchmail: Authorization failure on xx...@gu...@pop.guru.de
> fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Bye
> fetchmail: 6.3.6-rc4 querying pop.guru.de (protocol POP3) at Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:59:54 +0100 (CET): poll completed
> fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL)
> fetchmail: normal termination, status 3

with

defaults
  proto pop3
...

and

poll pop.guru.de auth password user xx...@gu... pass yyyyyy fetchall to
"guru"

There should be no CAPA at all (or at least used to be), but fetchmail
should not stumble on that, I guess.

Re: [fetchmail-users] qmail multidrop

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Doram Greenblat <do...@wd...> writes:

> Hey, I been using fetchmail great on some servers of ours, downloads  without a problem.
>
> I'm having a problem with 'qmail' servers and multiple recipients on
> a multidrop mailbox.

No. You're likely having a misconfigured fetchmail, and probably also an
older version - else you'd probably have seen it bitch about a missing
envelope option.

> if it helps, this is the situation.
> qmail -> fetchmail -> postfix -(postfix filters mail through a dspam socket, which feeds back into postfix after scanning).

This does indeed help.  Be sure to properly configure the envelope and
perhaps qvirtual options, and use a recent version, 6.3.4 or 6.3.6-rc4.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] getting better error messages out of fetchmail

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

"Ian! D. Allen" <id...@id...> writes:

> My web host has some SMTP spam blocking in place; so, certain messages
> that I fetch from other places are not accepted there.  I'm finding it
> awkward to make fetchmail give me just the right amount of detail about
> the messages that are being rejected.

I'll make a note and see if this can be addressed for 6.3.7 - but
perhaps it's 6.4 stuff.

> Also, the output is a hard to read, with the SMTP error in the middle of
> another line of output, appearing just before "flushed" or "not flushed".

Try 6.3.6-rc4, I've fixed some of this message-mixing/out of order stuff.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail vs. Getmail (from a Fetchmail perspective)

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Michelle Konzack <lin...@fr...> writes:

> And I am since years realy happy using fetchmail which
> has never leaved me and was/is ALWAYS working perfect.

For any reasonably distorted definition of "perfect".

Perfectly working software is a mirage. (Or it's trivial, which doesn't
count -- and BTW, does your helloworld.c check the printf return value
or ferror()?  Oops, it's not trivial any more...)

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[fetchmail-users] fetchmail 6.3.6-rc4 release candidate

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

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Greetings,

After several more bugs had to be fixed, I have uploaded the fourth
fetchmail 6.3.6 release candidate to the usual download location:
<http://home.pages.de/~mandree/fetchmail/> - the site also has rpms.

It is very important that 6.3.6-rc4 gets as much testing as possible, so
as to find incompatibilities between the fixes and your existing setups.
Please report all such incompatibilities, else we can't fix them for
6.3.6, obviously, and it may be a long time before the release after
this.


WARNING: This message sets the Reply-To: header.
When replying to me personally, you need to edit the To: header!

Can those who use an mda and who have experienced fetchmail crashes
after refused messages please test if these are gone?

Thank you.

Happy fetching,
Matthias Andree
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[fetchmail-users] getting better error messages out of fetchmail

[Ian! D. A. <id...@id...>]

My web host has some SMTP spam blocking in place; so, certain messages
that I fetch from other places are not accepted there.  I'm finding it
awkward to make fetchmail give me just the right amount of detail about
the messages that are being rejected.

Here are some captured fetchmail sessions I run at my web hosting provider
(a cPanel site):

    2 messages for someuser at somehost.com (29755 octets).
    reading message som...@so...:1 of 2 (26357 octets) fetchmail: SMTP error: 550 Administrative prohibition
    fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery
     flushed
    reading message som...@so...:2 of 2 (3398 octets) flushed

Another one:

    reading message oth...@ot...:1 of 1 (598 octets) fetchmail: SMTP error: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later
     not flushed

Another one:

    1 message for someuser at somehost.com (3155 octets).
    reading message som...@so...:1 of 1 (3155 octets) fetchmail: SMTP error: 550 Sender verify failed
    fetchmail: can't even send to id...@id...!
      flushed

Can fetchmail tell me just a bit more detail about the userid that was
being processed (and refused/rejected), without me having to turn on
full verbosity for all email fetching?  I'd like to see the userid that
is causing the "Administrative prohibition" and "Sender verify" errors,
without having to make all my sessions fully verbose.

Also, the output is a hard to read, with the SMTP error in the middle of
another line of output, appearing just before "flushed" or "not flushed".

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Problem with multiple ip on same interface + etchmaol

[Michelle K. <lin...@fr...>]

Am 2006-11-22 18:57:38, schrieb Mitko Rürup:
> Hello,
> 
> i changed my network config to have multiple ips on eth0. Since then,
> every time the alias eth0:1 is up fetchmail refuses to work. with just
> one ip on the interface everything works well.
> 
> my config looks like the following:
> 
> set postmaster "postmaster"
> set bouncemail
> set no spambounce
> set properties ""
> set daemon 300
> poll haftbar.de with proto IMAP
>     interface eth0/141.28.224.224 monitor eth0
>     user '#########' there with password '########' is '#######' here
> options keep ssl
> 
> 
> i tried with or without interface option, with or without monitor option
> 
> there is only one nic installes with the following ips:
> 
> eth0 141.28.224.224 hostname homer
> eth0:1 141.28.224.70 hostname dump
> 
> fetchmail constantly refuses to use the hostname homer, uses dump
> instead and does nothing after telling me that he is polling the server.
> 
> any clues to solve this?

Maybe you should use eth0:0 for the
first interface in your fetchmailrc?

Greetings
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    Tamay Dogan Network
    Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail vs. Getmail (from a Fetchmail perspective)

[Michelle K. <lin...@fr...>]

Am 2006-11-22 20:56:41, schrieb Volker Kuhlmann:
> Author: Charles Cazabon  (yep!)
> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:05:47 -0600
> Private mail to me, saying that getmail is better than fetchmail because
> it wouldn't lose mail or cause bogus bounces in its default
> configuration. He was unable to give specifics though when probed, but
> liked to rant against fetchmail. Personally I found this the best he
> said in the email exchange: "You're free not to use getmail." And I
> don't. :)

As I have already written, loss of messages occur only
on configuration errors.

And I am since years realy happy using fetchmail which
has never leaved me and was/is ALWAYS working perfect.

Greetings
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    Tamay Dogan Network
    Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail vs. Getmail (from a Fetchmail perspective)

[Michelle K. <lin...@fr...>]

Am 2006-11-22 01:30:18, schrieb Matthias Andree:
> Michelle Konzack <lin...@fr...> writes:
> 
> > And the getmail'ers claim that fetchmail is loosing all the times mails...
> > Realy weired; - after 7 years of fetchmail usage!
> 
> Author, Date, Subject, URL?

Since I am on many Lists, there was some stuff on <debian-user> and
<debian-user-german> not only one time.  Same for procmail<->maildrop.

But in my experience, fetchmail nor getmail have lost messages and
same for procmail and maildrop since I MUST use all four programs at
my customers.

I have seen ONLY user configuration errors and the programs have done
what was requested.

Greetings
    Michelle Konzack
    Systemadministrator
    Tamay Dogan Network
    Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Re: [fetchmail-users] qmail multidrop

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 11/24/06, Doram Greenblat <do...@wd...> wrote:
>
>  Hey, I been using fetchmail great on some servers of ours, downloads
> without a problem.
>
>  I'm having a problem with 'qmail' servers and multiple recipients on  a
> multidrop mailbox.
>  the mails are duplicating exponentially, based on how many recipients in
> the mail are local.
>
>  anyone got any ideas.
>  I see fetchmail has some sort of 'discard duplicates' function.
>
>  Does it work correctly, how do I utilize it.

From the man page:

"A piece of mail is considered duplicate if it has the same message-ID
as the message immediately preceding and more than one addressee."

If that isn't happening then it suggests they're not in sequence, in
which case you may need to use whatever duplicate suppression your
IMAP/POP server has (I know Cyrus does, don't know about others).

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[fetchmail-users] qmail multidrop

[Doram G. <do...@wd...>]

Hey, I been using fetchmail great on some servers of ours, downloads
without a problem.

I'm having a problem with 'qmail' servers and multiple recipients on  a
multidrop mailbox.
the mails are duplicating exponentially, based on how many recipients in
the mail are local.


anyone got any ideas.
I see fetchmail has some sort of 'discard duplicates' function.

Does it work correctly, how do I utilize it.

if it helps, this is the situation.
qmail -> fetchmail -> postfix -(postfix filters mail through a dspam
socket, which feeds back into postfix after scanning).

Regards
Doram.