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I searched "unicode" in mail archives and found nothing. When are you going=
 to support unicode? I tried to add some multibyte character feeds in feedr=
eader but all I got are just many "?" in both item headers and bodies.=0D
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I personally love the web interface via the rss feed listings, its much 
easier to view the information then the program imho.  Thing I noticed 
is feedreader is sorting the headlines in some weird order. I cant find 
in which order it is, but  it would be nice if it sorted it via date or 
the same way I have it on the feedreader program.

Try:

https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1147372&forum_id=238779

Essential:
- Close FR
- Open the file 'feedreader.ini'
- Delete the entries 'vert=' and 'hor='
- Start FR

Regards,
   Karsten

jaromir nemec schrieb:

> Hi,
>  
> 
> I'm using feedreader without problems for few weeks. It is a great tool 
> (big fun to use it, compared to manually browsing all the sites I used 
> to do).
> 
> Accidentally the folder window disappeared suddenly and I cannot restore 
> it (the left window).
> 
> I can move the line between the upper and lower window without problems, 
> but I cannot drag the left feed window from the left margin. The 
> "aquarium view" switch doesn't help too.
> 
> I know that this is probably a very stupid question - but I scan the 
> mailing list for "window disappear" and found no answer.
> 
> Any help appreciate.
> 
>  
> 
> thanks,
> Jaromir D.B. Nemec
> ja...@db... <mailto:ja...@db...>

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Karsten Hoffrath
kho...@kh...

Hi,

I'm using feedreader without problems for few weeks. It is a great tool =
(big fun to use it, compared to manually browsing all the sites I used =
to do).

Accidentally the folder window disappeared suddenly and I cannot restore =
it (the left window).

I can move the line between the upper and lower window without problems, =
but I cannot drag the left feed window from the left margin. The =
"aquarium view" switch doesn't help too.

I know that this is probably a very stupid question - but I scan the =
mailing list for "window disappear" and found no answer.

Any help appreciate.

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thanks,
Jaromir D.B. Nemec
ja...@db...
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I also started to make a list with things that need IMHO some changes,
so i'll post it here:

    * When Feedreader is open (so not minimzed in thesystemtray) it
      does not have a button on the taskbar. Imho having a button on
      the taskbar when the app is not minimized would be very usefull.
      (added this already as an RFE

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1033045&group_id=70179&atid=526866)
    * When there is an error with a feed (parse error, hierarchy
      error,..) it would be nicer if that feed in the tree would be
      coloured red or marked somehow instead of the (annoying) error
      message. (Sharpreader has a nice manner of marking feeds with
      errors)
    * Feedreader doesn't save the state of folders
    * Like carl set, updated items should be marked in a different way
      (sharpreader by example shows them in italic instead of bold)
    * In comparison to sharpreader updating my feeds (about 60-70 i
      think) takes a lot longer. Sharpreader seems to do this
      multithreaded, while feedreader seems to do it one-be-one, could
      this be changed?
    * also nice would be to show a different icon in the systemtray
      when there are unread items

Kind regards and Thanks for the nice app!!
Jeroen

Carl Youngblood wrote:

> I have been using feedreader successfully for a while now. Overall
> I like the program a lot, especially how fast and lightweight it
> is, but I have a few problems/annoyances. In case these are
> helpful at all, here they are:
>
> 1) I can't delete a folder that I no longer want. It is a
> subfolder underneath a main folder that is underneath "My feeds".
> 2) I'm constantly seeing old articles highlighted as being new,
> even though I just recently read them. I also see a number of
> duplicate articles. I'm assuming that this is because the articles
> are being updated slightly, or at least something in the downloaded
> data is slightly different, and feedreader is assuming that it has
> downloaded a new article when in fact it is the same as another
> article that has already been downloaded. There should be a way of
> identitying a few very basic characteristics of an article and
> using these as a unique index to prevent duplication. Updates to
> articles would be written over old versions, and the user would
> have the option of flagging these as unread or not. 3) When a feed
> gets some new messages, I see many numbers in parentheses piling up
> next to the bolded feed text, such as "Slashdot
> (7)(7)(7)(7)(7)(7)(7)", but when I click on the feed those
> duplicate numbers disappear. 4) It'd be nice to have some browser
> buttons in the preview pane that allowed you to move back without
> having to right-click on a blank area and click back.
>
> As I think of more issues I'll try and post them.
>
> Thanks, Carl Youngblood
>
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I have been using feedreader successfully for a while now.  Overall I
like the program a lot, especially how fast and lightweight it is, but
I have a few problems/annoyances.  In case these are helpful at all,
here they are:

1) I can't delete a folder that I no longer want.  It is a subfolder
underneath a main folder that is underneath "My feeds".
2) I'm constantly seeing old articles highlighted as being new, even
though I just recently read them.  I also see a number of duplicate
articles.  I'm assuming that this is because the articles are being
updated slightly, or at least something in the downloaded data is
slightly different, and feedreader is assuming that it has downloaded
a new article when in fact it is the same as another article that has
already been downloaded.  There should be a way of identitying a few
very basic characteristics of an article and using these as a unique
index to prevent duplication.  Updates to articles would be written
over old versions, and the user would have the option of flagging
these as unread or not.
3) When a feed gets some new messages, I see many numbers in
parentheses piling up next to the bolded feed text, such as "Slashdot
(7)(7)(7)(7)(7)(7)(7)", but when I click on the feed those duplicate
numbers disappear.
4) It'd be nice to have some browser buttons in the preview pane that
allowed you to move back without having to right-click on a blank area
and click back.

As I think of more issues I'll try and post them.

Thanks,
Carl Youngblood

I know it. If articles database is big (for me it's 6 mb and it's big) 
then it takes quite some seconds to load it to memory... This is no good 
:). I guess these are the same things Nicole told us in the spring :).

I think that only right idea is to use firebird (local) SQL engine for 
this. I have developed some (strongly experimental and secret ;)) 
bayesian filtering extension  to Feedreader using firebird and the 
engine is behaving wonderfully.

Also we will win more powerful query and sorting mechanism and 
possibility to use remote SQL for some kind of group installation of 
Feedreader.

Greetings
Toomas

Karsten Hoffrath wrote:

> Hi.
>
> There are some bugreports on sourceforge which reports 100% CPU 
> utilization on start up and shutdown.
>
> Maybe we should switch to another format to store the feeds, 
> headlines, etc.
>
> Ideas?
>
>

Hi.

There are some bugreports on sourceforge which reports 100% CPU 
utilization on start up and shutdown.

Maybe we should switch to another format to store the feeds, headlines, etc.

Ideas?

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Karsten Hoffrath
kho...@kh...

Hi guys. I've been using feedreader for a few days and I have to say =
that it works really well! Thanks for the great project.

I have a feature request. Some of the feeds I subscribe to (New York =
Times in particular) have very crude RSS feeds that output the same =
headlines throughout the week. I end up seeing this:

20:00 28.07 When Technology Imitates Art
20:00 28.07 For Some Beta Testers, It's About Buzz, Not Bugs
...
20:00 21.07 When Technology Imitates Art
20:00 21.07 For Some Beta Testers, It's About Buzz, Not Bugs
...
20:00 14.07 When Technology Imitates Art
20:00 14.07 For Some Beta Testers, It's About Buzz, Not Bugs

It would be easy to programmatically strip out duplicate headlines so I =
don't get false notifications all the time. If this is considered =
dangerous perhaps it could be a per-feed checkbox.

Thanks!

Adam
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<pre>I just thought I would say thanks for all the hard work on

feedreader.

Its really hitting the spot in terms of how a good program

should be written. Simple, clean interface, an amazing plus.

Ive posted several feature requests and thought it was time

to stop whining and thank you.

Please pass this on to your fellow developers and keep up

the good work.

Regards

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Hi all,

Had a little try with this. It seems not to be that simple than i thought because feedreader uses the embeddedwebbrowser-wrapper-control. Using the mozilla control instead needs to implement the same things as the embedded webbrowser does but for mozilla. As the DOM support of the mozilla activeX control is limited i don't know what is possible and what not.

Cheers,
Marc

>I am not much of a programmer but firefox / kmeleon just use the browser
>engine. At least kmeleon was very small if i remember correctly.

Gecko is the bowser-engine used by Mozilla and Firefox and it is much smaller than the IE engine but still about 3-4 megs (IE is more then 10megs). But making the thing configurable will allow to use one or another. If one like to use Gecko (Mozilla) maybe an aditional download is needed but first we have to see whether it works or not ;o)

Cheers,
Marc

If you just want the Gecko engine without installing the browser you
can get that here:

http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm

It just provides you the Mozilla ActiveX control specifically for
embedded browser development like we are doing.

-- 
-Jim McKeeth
 "Anything is possible with enough programmers, time and pizza!"
  (Substitute caffeine for time as necessary.)
http://www.bsdg.org/

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:29:10 +0300, Toomas Toots <to...@se...> wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> First let's try to get it to work :).
> 
> After this we have possibility to offer users two packages. One with IE
> and another with Gecko.
> 
> Another possibility is to use IE by default and if Gecko is installed
> then use Gecko (this gecko use should be configurable).
> 
> I prefer Gecko :).
> 
> Greetings
> Toomas
> 
> 
> 
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"Marc" <ma...@id...> wrote:
>Will try to replace the IE control with the Gekko control and see whether I get it work anyway.

I am not much of a programmer but firefox / kmeleon just use the browser
engine. At least kmeleon was very small if i remember correctly.

perhaps this helps.
Nicole

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Hello!

First let's try to get it to work :).

After this we have possibility to offer users two packages. One with IE 
and another with Gecko.

Another possibility is to use IE by default and if Gecko is installed 
then use Gecko (this gecko use should be configurable).

I prefer Gecko :).

Greetings
Toomas

Hi there,

As it would be cool to get rid of the ****** IE and it's popup's etc I did some testing with the Gekko-ActiveX control. It seems to be straight forward to replace the IE control. But I am not quite sure what is needed to ship to enduseres to get things work. Somewhere it was written that one have to install Mozilla. That would not be that nice. Shipping gekko with Feedreader will also increase the installer size by a few megs (at least 3-4 megs). Do you think this is a big issue?

Will try to replace the IE control with the Gekko control and see whether I get it work anyway.

Cheers,
Marc

...is ready.

You can download it from

http://freecache.org/http://www.feedreader.com/releases/FeedReader27-642Setup.exe

Please use this freecache part.

Greetings
Toomas

Hello!

There have been following developments with Feedreader in last week:

*headlines are now in tobjectlist

*new feature - filters (highlight and delete)

*plugin support - at the moment only plugins that do something with 
headline are supported. Plugin gets all data what is in current 
headline. Plugin can (for example) send mail, add entry to blog, add 
entry to custom corporate database. Only problem is to develop such a 
plugin. At the moment I have made plugin that sends email using mailto: 
protocol for reference.

Greetings
Toomas

from Marcus Hettlage:

> 5. we should change the internal data-handling to use objects and 
> collections instead of records and arrays, that makes a lot of things 
> easier and
> reduces unnecessary copying of data and removes some memory-leaks that 
> are present in the code

So, that's what we need to do.

Toomas

Hi!

A lot of work has been going on in two days:

11.07.2004 toomastoots
-Added filter support
    -delete item
    -highlight item with specified color
-Feature request 948218 (save feeds after new feed adding)
-Search : possibility to search from active feed or all feeds

10.07.2004 toomastoots
-Extended ATOM feed support
    -"Related" links working

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Next thing is possibly rewrite headlines data structures (at the moment 
array) to something better (pointer,object,???). No sql engine at the 
moment.

Greetings
Toomas

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:18:31 +0300, Toomas Toots <to...@i-...> wrote:
> Also i have been playing with flashfiler for some days. No real working
> Feedreader yet but I keep trying... :)

If you are looking for a database to use with FeedReader you might try
contacting ElevateSoftware.  I have seen them donate DBISAM licenses
to a few OS projects.  Once we resolve the GPL issue they might be up
for that.

I really like DBISAM.  It is a great database for projects like this.

Although using it would make it difficult for others to build their
own versions.

Another option might be to use the MSDE from Microsoft.  It is free
for up to 5 connections or something like that.

Nothing wrong with flash filer either though.

-- 
-Jim McKeeth
"Anything is possible with enough programmers, time and pizza!"
"Substitute caffeine for time as necessary."
http://www.bsdg.org/

> Yea, you can use my icons as long as you put a credit to me along & link
> to my site in there for using my icons/images in it, & also state that
> my icons aren't open source & must not be edited or used elsewhere.

AFAIK, That is incompatible with the GPL.  The GPL requires that all
parts included / referenced area also under the GPL, unless they are
included with the OS or compiler - thus the Win32 API and the Delphi
VCL are compatible (I actually checked with the FSF on the latter). 
The GPL also precludes credit requirements.

Just as an FYI, the fact that we use 3rd party, non-GPL components is
also not compatible with the GPL for the same reasons.  The MPL or BSD
would be more compatible.  Not sure the legal ramifications of a
change in license, but I think that as long as all the contributors
agree then we can do that.  But the fact that the current license is
incompatible with the project is a pretty good reason to change.

We can contact the FSF if we need clarification on this.  They are
pretty good about responding.

-- 
-Jim McKeeth
"Anything is possible with enough programmers, time and pizza!"
"Substitute caffeine for time as necessary."
http://www.bsdg.org/

Hello!

I have had conversation with a guy, who does some icon art. What do you=20
think about reply? Is there a problem here with opensource license and=20
his statement.

Also i have been playing with flashfiler for some days. No real working=20
Feedreader yet but I keep trying... :)

Greetings
Toomas

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Subject: 	RE: icon use in Feedreader (opensource)
Date: 	Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:05:14 +0100
From: 	FOOOD's Icons - Icon Use <ico...@fo...>
Reply-To: 	<ico...@fo...>
To: 	'Toomas Toots' <to...@i-...>

Hi,

Yea, you can use my icons as long as you put a credit to me along & link=20
to my site in there for using my icons/images in it, & also state that=20
my icons aren=92t open source & must not be edited or used elsewhere.

Regards,

Jono

FOOOD=92s Icons

-----Original Message-----

From: Toomas Toots [mailto:to...@i-...]

Sent: 25 June 2004 2:43 PM

To: ico...@fo...

Subject: icon use in Feedreader (opensource)

Hi!

I'm writing to you regarding using some of your icons in opensource

project called Feedreader (www.feedreader.com and

www.sourceforge.net/projects/feedreader). Feedreader is client for news

published by newspapers and portals. I have developed Feedreader already

three years and every day there are about 1000 downloads of this

program. Over the time there have been more than 200000 downloads of

this program.

Feedreader is functioning well but it's icons are not nice at all (see

attached screenshot). So i't would be really nice if we could use some

of your icons in our project. As Feedreader is opesource project, all

contributors get their names and information listed ;).

I saw sentence in Your homepage that at the moment you are not welcoming

use of your icons for free, so i did not do any detailed work regarding

putting Your icons to Feedreader. If there is teoretical possibility

then we will list icons we are interested in. :)

Hope to hear about You soon.

Greetings,

Toomas Toots

Feedreader, Estonia

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