RE: License

[White, G. <gr...@sl...>]

"Copyright of the license text itself" !  This should violate some basic principle.

This is way beyond me. Ralph, are you suggesting individual headers in each source file? Please not.

Greg


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From: Ralph Lange [Ral...@gm...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:58 AM
To: epi...@li...
Subject: Re: License

Marty was showing the copyright notice inside the LICENSE text.

This notice is the copyright of the license text itself, which was developed by Andrew and the APS lawyers, so it is without doubt their work and they can put their copyright notice on top.

The source files in EPICS base contain different copyright notices, which depend on the authors of the respective sources.

The EPICS license is not a copyleft or viral license. Please keep close to the facts.

And please let us try to keep the number of different licenses as small as possible.

OMG, not again....
~Ralph


On Tue Sep 20 2011 14:30:16 GMT+0200 (CEST), Dalesio, Leo <da...@bn...><mailto:da...@bn...> wrote:

No. The EPICS PV work is not being done by Argonne.

But, we should discuss this.
Most of the original work that was done, was done by EPIC Consulting. That means we should decide what we want to do. The DoE does not like us using anything that has copyleft or viral licenses. I can understand their problem with that. The goal was to make the project open-source - no hassle with ownership. So I suppose I can talk to the lawyer here and find out a better way to go about this.

Others should weigh in - please. What do you want in a license?
I think that Marty and I hold most of the investment in the code base so far. BNL is second in ownership. Batelle and DoE have more recently made open-source easy to do. A request to do open-source work to the DoE becomes open-source by default if the DoE does not respond within 2 weeks.

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg White [mailto:gr...@sl...]
Sent: Tue 9/20/2011 7:51 AM
To: Marty Kraimer
Cc: epi...@li...<mailto:epi...@li...>
Subject: Re: License

Yea, this is why I was worried about the license. Stanford will be very unhappy about be doing work under a license that in any way compromises Stanford. This was the one stipulation Stanford lawyers made for my work at PSI.

Does anyone know a good way to make this go away?

Greg

On 20 Sep 2011, at 13:37, Marty Kraimer wrote:

>
> The EPICS Base license starts:
>
> Copyright (c) 1991-2007 UChicago Argonne LLC and The Regents of the
> University of California. All rights reserved.
>
> EPICS BASE is distributed subject to the following license conditions:
>
>  SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT
>  Software: EPICS BASE
>  Versions: 3.13.7 and higher
>
>
> Is it appropriate that the epics-pvdata projects use exactly the same
> license?
>
> Marty