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From: Arden W. <ar...@li...> - 2003-05-31 14:10:21
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I would like to know if anyone else does not like the default fields for user sign up. I even see them mapped out the same way here http://mikespub.net/xaraya/index.php?module=roles&func=register&phase=registerform Now from a professional sense I have absolutely no *&(*&^% use whatsoever for an aol, msnm, a one line location field or otherwise. Now take those to a client and they chuckle. One of these days I'm hoping we see some changes to these fields to something more standardized toward a business model. Then to add other fields with dynamic data makes more sense. Even this as well done as it is does not make much business sense. http://www.suteralaut.com/user.php?op=register&module=NS-NewUser Scattered throughout the forums are people unhappy with the fields and always wanting to change them. I submit to you that if they were more normalized at the outset that there would be less problems. Why should a user suddenly after a month of using his system have to try and hack dynamic data? It would be very simple to change these fields in the install routine. I don't know what other modules reference the data structure other than NS-NewUser, NS-User and perhaps the messaging system. |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-05-31 00:16:27
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> Hi all,<br> <br> I installed phpGroupWare at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gatonero.dyndns.org/~cs/phpgroupware/index.php">http://gatonero.dyndns.org/~cs/phpgroupware/index.php</a>. Please login as demo pw=guest. It's extremly powerfull for organizing projects and project groups. I activated all moduls (ca. 40 different modules). Not all are working now, but it's extremely interesting. Maybe it's good for eNvolution. <br> <br> It's from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.phpgroupware.org/">http://www.phpgroupware.org/</a><br> <br> Here is the moduls list:<br> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Addressbook</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[addressbook]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Administration</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[admin]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>Backup</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[backup]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Bookmarks</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[bookmarks]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Brewer</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[brewer]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Calendar</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[calendar]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>Chat</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[chat]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Chora</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[chora]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Comics</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[comic]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Company Directory</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[hr]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>DJ</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[dj]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Developer tools</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[developer_tools]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>E-Mail</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[email]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>FTP</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[ftp]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>FelaMiMail</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[felamimail]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Forum</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[forum]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Headlines</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[headlines]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Image Editor</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[img]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>InfoLog</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[infolog]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Inventory</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[inv]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Meerkat</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[meerkat]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Messenger</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[messenger]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>Netsaint Network Monitor</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[netsaint]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>News Admin</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[news_admin]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>News Reader</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[nntp]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Notes</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[notes]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>Notify Window</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[notifywindow]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>PHPWebHosting</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[phpwebhosting]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Polls</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[polls]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Preferences</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[preferences]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>Projects</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[projects]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>QMailLDAP</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[qmailldap]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Registration</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[registration]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>SOAP Test</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[soap]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>SiteMgr Web Content Manager</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[sitemgr]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>Skeleton</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[skel]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>Stock Quotes</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[stocks]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>System information</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[phpsysinfo]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>Timetrack</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[timetrack]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>To Do List</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[todo]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee"> <td>User Manual</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[manual]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> <td>XMLRPC Test</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[xmlrpc]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#dddddd"> <td>eLDAPtir</td> <td><input type="checkbox" name="account_permissions[eldaptir]" value="True" checked="checked"></td> </tr> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <td><br> </td> <br> </body> </html> |
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From: Arden W. <ar...@li...> - 2003-05-30 20:40:54
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I want to know if http://www.swingerz.ca/user.php?op=register&module=NS-NewUser is possible to finish. I put the personal avatar hack in there but can't get the javascript correct. I think would be nice feature for eNvolution. Maybe need function after uid is added to the database then tie it in with moderation screen. Can someone please look and say one way or another if it is possible to do? So out of all this I ask why does the install routine still try and upgrade .64 mutant releases and others??? When do we draw the line. I just finished upgrading my eNvo1.1 multi-site portals by hand to eNvo1.2 standards and it was big big job. Many changes yes many. I think the install routine should be the focal point for creating installation wizards. I have and want to upload to cvs some scripts with much reiteration and instantiation of the tables to install many sites, stories and also change many stories and settings based on the install routine. To me it seems like a good idea if a user could choose options he would like activated before or during the install routine. If it were possible to even configure your default stories, blocks, modules and themes some way during the install for say corporate, personal or organization. Also I promote eNvolution here recently: http://slideml.org/files/slidesets/495/title.html little presentation of http://oscom.org 3rd annual conference |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-05-30 19:01:59
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TiMax wrote: >So now we have our lead developer, i talk with Stefan aka Windmeup and he are happy to help us and to do the job of >lead developer. > > Congratulation to Stefan and eNvolution. I'm sure he will do a great jaob ;-D Christoph/gatoNero -- mailto:chr...@t-... personal: http://www.christoph-schwaeppe.de CMS: http://www.envolution.de ICQ: 174676647 jabber gat...@am... |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-05-30 18:46:18
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Arden Wiebe wrote: >Okay these next few days I learn better CVS skills. Right now I am >using Cervista front end for Konqueror file manager. I can also use >command line. > > Me too, and it works pretty nice, Cervisia and command line. Your login messages are ok. You tried to commit some files (NS-Mulltisites) which hasn't been added to CVS before, This is necassary for the version management. So please use the "Add to Repository" function from the File-menu or from the context. Here is a very nice link to CVS documentation http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/, it's a very fine docu from some of the CVS gurus (from gurus to guru ;-) ) -- mailto:chr...@t-... personal: http://www.christoph-schwaeppe.de CMS: http://www.envolution.de ICQ: 174676647 jabber gat...@am... |
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From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-05-30 18:31:54
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I just updated and cleaned member list in cvs, please take a look= and if i make some errors or you want to be added, please send your sourceforge nickname to me, Cino, Windmeup or= Sjah, so we can add you. https://sourceforge.net/project/admin/userperms.php?group_id=3D5933= 9 TiMax |
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From: Theresa A. S. <the...@ea...> - 2003-05-30 17:28:38
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Hello, Sounds cool. Sorry not much to say but waste a moment in cyber space, I am still around just got my work load increased and haven't spent much time online lately. If I am needed just drop me a line, my weekends (except for this Saturday) are pretty much open and then I start to work at the campground up north in two weeks, which really isn't much work so it is the old laptop by the river routine through summer. hehe Can't think of anything better. Talk to you later, Theresa Angela Sanchez aka Theresa Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "TiMax" <ma...@em...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: [Envolution-devel] eNvo lead developer So now we have our lead developer, i talk with Stefan aka Windmeup and he are happy to help us and to do the job of lead developer. Now we work to prepare proof of document about envolution structure team, i let you know about in next days. TiMax ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-05-30 17:03:28
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So now we have our lead developer, i talk with Stefan aka= Windmeup and he are happy to help us and to do the job of lead developer. Now we work to prepare proof of document about envolution= structure team, i let you know about in next days. TiMax |
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From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-05-30 16:47:09
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 10:18:57 +0200, Stefan Koehler wrote: > [...] we talk about our chaos code for css, styles, classes= etc .... > about that Tchichi and @ngelspike work to clean code, to= prepare list of class we must use in modules and core, so all people use same class when write modules, blocks or themes,= they want to release public list in next days. > Tchichi work also to check, delete or remplace deprecated= class in our code [...] > > Ah. Two new names: Tchichi and @ngelspike are developers? Or= designers? Or what? > Please remember my points of view. I talk about developers,= and I meant workers for the core and basis eNvo system. > I think you mix on italian discussion all we have to do in= core AND design. But we have to share tasks. We need persons for both parts and we have to group them into different= teams: Tchichi is not a new name, you can found it like our member in= envolution CVS, and @angelspike want to help he they don't are designer, code writer or somethig, they are people= in Italian staff want to help to develope and clean code. You are right when you talk about share tasks, for this raison i= write here to inform all about that, Tchichi and @angelspike start to work to clean code and prepare list for= class, so all of us know about it. > 1. Core-Dev: Make code stable and wellformed > 2. Core-Dev: Re-code some parts of core modules to get same= look-and-feel (Input- and output-masks, not theme design) > 3. Core-Dev: check classes (i.e. pnAPI, pnHTML, ...) > 4. Core-Dev: create new classes and functions for use in= several modules > 5. Core-Dev: Optimize and clean core to make it faster and= eliminate overheads (code not needed) > > 6. Themes-Dev: Check CSS and modify it > 7. Themes-Dev: Create a basic, non-grafical theme to check= module functions and system integritiy (i.e. for module devs.) > 8. Themes-Dev: Check existing themes (Experience, Borobudur,= Michelangelo). It seems, that there are some bugs. > 9. Themes-Dev: Write docus and descriptions how to use= Encompass (Smarty), modify existing themes and create themes on basis of Experience or Borobudur (I know this is under= process). > > ... to be continued That is nice, but where we can found so many people ? LOL Or maybe we can select a Core-Dev manager and he work to found= helpers like re-code - check classes etc .... Remember we are in Open Source contest and is not easy to manage= people. So for example : Pyksel is our designer manager and he worked aroudn new theme= system and style definition, and sure new graphics but now he have some family troubles and i don't see he from 40 days i= think Zxvision is our code manager, he writed nomoreblocks and= visualblocks, and he have some other ideas to manager templates= etc with nomoreblocks and visual blcoks but now he have lot of= trouble with his work so he can't help us from 1 month and maybe more for 1 month cyblenoire work around new subjects module and some other= develpoement but now he have school problem so he can't help us and i don't reaad about he from one month and also sometimes we have language barrier, but we need to= improve it, so sometimes is hard to manage it but we must continue so we can be one International developement Network and= not only a site developement. Sure we need to re-wamp our organization structure and need to= define better all responsability, but we need also to keep it very flexible and with all language included. > [...]We all agree to keep compatiblity with modules and blocks= Postnuke, and sure after next release we can take time to check and clean some modules for eNvolution [...] > > The backward compatibility to PN-modules is nice and a= must-have for older modules. But PN and eNvo goes not the same way and the devs of the two CMS make changes, add several= functions and recode basis code. > It will be more and more harder to integrate PN-module (I mean= newer and newest modules) into eNvo. > Look on PN-CVS. They have add some new code in the= API-functions. And the module- and 3rd-party-devs will use this= now and in near future. > So we have to find needed modules and make them compatible= with eNvo. Problems can be, to check updates of this programs. > Yes i agree, for this raison we start with envoaddon.com to have= international demo site for modules, blocks and addons That want to be only a demo site for downloads, support or news= alle people are redirect in our international support site. > [...] Maybe we can think also about something like xaraya, one= repository where we or developer can assign number for each module and let know people about what he mean develope and= status of developement.[...] > > This is, what I want installate with my ToDo-module. And we= can combine it with "credits" and "envoDev". > > WindMeUp That is good TiMax |
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-05-30 13:41:51
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From: Arden W. <ar...@li...> - 2003-05-30 13:41:29
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On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:42, Stefan Koehler wrote: > I remember we add Oracle integration (+/- ready), new version of >subjects, messages with outbox, personal avatar with > upload, expansion of user profile, new version of RTE lot of fix and >clean code. I want to know if http://www.swingerz.ca/user.php?op=register&module=NS-NewUser is possible to finish. I put the personal avatar hack in there but can't get the javascript correct. I think would be nice feature for eNvolution. Maybe need function after uid is added to the database then tie it in with moderation screen. > @sjah: > > 1. We create a simple theme name Default as a default theme. It should be more functional rather than stylist theme, less of images except eNvo logo, > less of scripts, clean, white background, not grey :) and only with text links on the left column such as Home, Admin, Help etc. ... [...] > > I agree. Nothing to say. You have explained it detaily ;-) Yes I agree to make very crisp clear sharp white theme. >On Fri, 2003-05-30 at 09:42, Stefan Koehler wrote: > The backward compatibility to PN-modules is nice and a must-have for >older modules. But PN and eNvo goes not the same way and the devs of >the two CMS make changes, add several functions and recode basis code. > It will be more and more harder to integrate PN-module (I mean newer >and newest modules) into eNvo. > Look on PN-CVS. They have add some new code in the API-functions. And >the module- and 3rd-party-devs will use this now and in near future. > So we have to find needed modules and make them compatible with eNvo. >Problems can be, to check updates of this programs. > > [...] 3. We create procedures for webmaster to configure his site for the first time installation. Such as go first to the setting, modules, blocks etc. We define two types of modules, main modules and addons modules. ... [...] > Possible solution is an installation wizzard. Here we can define some step-by-step calls to several admin setups as you describe. > > 4. To showoff the eNvo capabilites, we create layout possibilities snapshot as much as possible. Corporate style, weblog style, designers style, fancy, So out of all this I ask why does the install routine still try and upgrade .64 mutant releases and others??? When do we draw the line. I just finished upgrading my eNvo1.1 multi-site portals by hand to eNvo1.2 standards and it was big big job. Many changes yes many. I think the install routine should be the focal point for creating installation wizards. I have and want to upload to cvs some scripts with much reiteration and instantiation of the tables to install many sites, stories and also change many stories and settings based on the install routine. To me it seems like a good idea if a user could choose options he would like activated before or during the install routine. If it were possible to even configure your default stories, blocks, modules and themes some way during the install for say corporate, personal or organization. Also I promote eNvolution here recently: http://slideml.org/files/slidesets/495/title.html |
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From: Arden W. <ar...@li...> - 2003-05-30 12:58:14
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Okay these next few days I learn better CVS skills. Right now I am using Cervista front end for Konqueror file manager. I can also use command line. I was able to get all the source from the current cvs but that was two weeks ago. I think much has changed and I want to update my local copy. This is what shows in the GUI please look at cvs2.png file at http://www.linuxguru.ca/download/Screenshots/cvs2.png This is from the root prompt: [root@interceptor root]# cvs -d:pserver:el...@cv...:/cvsroot/envolution login Logging in to :pserver:el...@cv...:2401/cvsroot/envolution CVS password: [root@interceptor root]# cvs -d:pserver:el...@cv...:/cvsroot/envolution logout Logging out of :pserver:el...@cv...:2401/cvsroot/envolution [root@interceptor root]# I obviously connect. If anyone can get me going sooner much appreciated. I would like to use the GUI where possible. |
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From: Stefan K. <Ste...@ga...> - 2003-05-30 11:49:50
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[...] >>> bu...@di... 30.05.03 12.55 Uhr >>> Or.. rather than commenting out, you could have a configuration setting in the admin stuff that lets you choose between the built-in or standalone :) That way, everyone can benefit if they want to. [...] We don't need a switch. The stand-alone FileManager is the same as the = build-in. But as stand-alone more flexible, because it is itself a module. WindMeUp -----Original Message----- From: env...@li... [mailto:env...@li...] On Behalf Of Stefan Koehler Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:21 AM To: env...@li... Subject: Antw: Re: [Envolution-devel] Subjects and EW-FileManager [...]I agree about file manager, but for subjects i think is better if we keep our Subjects module, i need to work around=20 install procedure about that in next days but i think now our subjects module have very nice features and work good. [...] OK. We can include EW FileManager with one of the next releases. And we can hold our own Subjects-module. But if we use the standalone FileManager, we have to modify the calls (links) from our subjects module and comment-out the build-in filemanager. Is this right? WindMeUp ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: Burke <bu...@di...> - 2003-05-30 10:53:43
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Or.. rather than commenting out, you could have a configuration setting in the admin stuff that lets you choose between the built-in or standalone :) That way, everyone can benefit if they want to. -----Original Message----- From: env...@li... [mailto:env...@li...] On Behalf Of Stefan Koehler Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:21 AM To: env...@li... Subject: Antw: Re: [Envolution-devel] Subjects and EW-FileManager [...]I agree about file manager, but for subjects i think is better if we keep our Subjects module, i need to work around install procedure about that in next days but i think now our subjects module have very nice features and work good. [...] OK. We can include EW FileManager with one of the next releases. And we can hold our own Subjects-module. But if we use the standalone FileManager, we have to modify the calls (links) from our subjects module and comment-out the build-in filemanager. Is this right? WindMeUp ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: Stefan K. <Ste...@ga...> - 2003-05-30 09:43:54
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@sjah: 1. We create a simple theme name Default as a default theme. It should be = more functional rather than stylist theme, less of images except eNvo = logo,=20 less of scripts, clean, white background, not grey :) and only with text = links on the left column such as Home, Admin, Help etc. ... [...] I agree. Nothing to say. You have explained it detaily ;-) [...] 3. We create procedures for webmaster to configure his site for the = first time installation. Such as go first to the setting, modules, blocks = etc. We define two types of modules, main modules and addons modules. ... = [...] Possible solution is an installation wizzard. Here we can define some = step-by-step calls to several admin setups as you describe. 4. To showoff the eNvo capabilites, we create layout possibilities = snapshot as much as possible. Corporate style, weblog style, designers = style, fancy,=20 etc. Some snapshot images are available in the encompass page as standard = themes, which should be tested first, free of errors. So if they install=20= another theme which is not the standard theme and found errors, they will = know its about the theme not eNvo. [...] Yes, we have to do it. But first we have to explain the functinalities of = eNvos theme engine clearer. It is for external screen designers heavy to = understand, what's the meaning of blocks, zones and templates. WindMeUp |
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From: Stefan K. <Ste...@ga...> - 2003-05-30 08:19:37
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[...] we talk about number of next release, me and some of us think 1.2.1 = is not good because we add some feautures in this=20 release and for that we need to show it in our number release maybe with = 1.2.5 I remember we add Oracle integration (+/- ready), new version of subjects, = messages with outbox, personal avatar with=20 upload, expansion of user profile, new version of RTE lot of fix and clean = code. [...] I agree. We can tell people we have 4 internal (unofficial) releases ( .1 = to .4) and will public the stable release 1.2.5 But, I think, for oracle integration we need some more time. [...] we talk about our chaos code for css, styles, classes etc ....=20 about that Tchichi and @ngelspike work to clean code, to prepare list of = class we must use in modules and core, so all people use same class when = write modules, blocks or themes, they want to release public list in next = days. Tchichi work also to check, delete or remplace deprecated class in our = code [...] Ah. Two new names: Tchichi and @ngelspike are developers? Or designers? Or = what? Please remember my points of view. I talk about developers, and I meant = workers for the core and basis eNvo system. I think you mix on italian discussion all we have to do in core AND = design. But we have to share tasks. We need persons for both parts and we = have to group them into different teams: 1. Core-Dev: Make code stable and wellformed 2. Core-Dev: Re-code some parts of core modules to get same look-and-feel = (Input- and output-masks, not theme design) 3. Core-Dev: check classes (i.e. pnAPI, pnHTML, ...) 4. Core-Dev: create new classes and functions for use in several modules 5. Core-Dev: Optimize and clean core to make it faster and eliminate = overheads (code not needed) 6. Themes-Dev: Check CSS and modify it 7. Themes-Dev: Create a basic, non-grafical theme to check module = functions and system integritiy (i.e. for module devs.) 8. Themes-Dev: Check existing themes (Experience, Borobudur, Michelangelo).= It seems, that there are some bugs. 9. Themes-Dev: Write docus and descriptions how to use Encompass (Smarty), = modify existing themes and create themes on basis of Experience or = Borobudur (I know this is under process). ... to be continued [...]We all agree to keep compatiblity with modules and blocks Postnuke, = and sure after next release we can take time to check and clean some = modules for eNvolution [...] The backward compatibility to PN-modules is nice and a must-have for older = modules. But PN and eNvo goes not the same way and the devs of the two CMS = make changes, add several functions and recode basis code. It will be more and more harder to integrate PN-module (I mean newer and = newest modules) into eNvo. Look on PN-CVS. They have add some new code in the API-functions. And the = module- and 3rd-party-devs will use this now and in near future. So we have to find needed modules and make them compatible with eNvo. = Problems can be, to check updates of this programs. [...] I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and explain = promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic men power of envolution = and what they can make with eNvolution, we need to have themes themes .. = [...] I agree. This is part of Support- and Themes-Dev-Team. [...] About modules and blocks i just put online www.envoaddon.com, that = want to be our demo site where we can show modules, blocks addons show = with envolution,... [...] Good work. We need it. [...] Maybe we can think also about something like xaraya, one repository = where we or developer can assign number for each module and let know = people about what he mean develope and status of developement.[...] This is, what I want installate with my ToDo-module. And we can combine it = with "credits" and "envoDev". WindMeUp |
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From: Stefan K. <Ste...@ga...> - 2003-05-30 07:24:08
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[...]I agree about file manager, but for subjects i think is better if we = keep our Subjects module, i need to work around=20 install procedure about that in next days but i think now our subjects = module have very nice features and work good. [...] OK. We can include EW FileManager with one of the next releases. And we = can hold our own Subjects-module. But if we use the standalone FileManager,= we have to modify the calls (links) from our subjects module and = comment-out the build-in filemanager. Is this right? WindMeUp |
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From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-05-30 02:14:37
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Section module is deprecated, we have replaced it with Subjects,= and we have keep these tables only for back compatibility with old version of eNvolution Max On Thu, 29 May 2003 16:20:16 +0200, Luc...@cs... wrote: > > Ok, we found a few bugs and are proceding with the conversion,= now the > whole news should be converted as stats, topx. > Now are looking over the search and download (a really long= and big work). > Unfortunately to convince Oracle to search on clob we need to= use > intermedia (so creating indexes and writing the query= differently). > I must also ask about the name of a table that in the stats= mod is called > as pntable[sections] is it a legacy? > We're going to alter the installation procedure to take in= consideration > the new problem of intermedia. > Luca |
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-05-29 16:00:31
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From: Arden W. <ar...@li...> - 2003-05-29 15:23:29
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Look http://www.envolution.linuxguru.ca/Stats.html and it still uses the sections table. I just have not added any special sections to the site though. On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 08:20, Luc...@cs... wrote: > > Ok, we found a few bugs and are proceding with the conversion, now the > whole news should be converted as stats, topx. > Now are looking over the search and download (a really long and big work). > Unfortunately to convince Oracle to search on clob we need to use > intermedia (so creating indexes and writing the query differently). > I must also ask about the name of a table that in the stats mod is called > as pntable[sections] is it a legacy? > We're going to alter the installation procedure to take in consideration > the new problem of intermedia. > Luca |
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-05-29 14:44:13
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-05-28 21:58:47
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TiMax wrote: >I want to send here little resume from italian discussion, is a very little resume in my very poor english, so ... start >to decode me : > > >we talk about number of next release, me and some of us think 1.2.1 is not good because we add some feautures in this >release and for that we need to show it in our number release maybe with 1.2.5 >I remember we add Oracle integration (+/- ready), new version of subjects, messages with outbox, personal avatar with >upload, expansion of user profile, new version of RTE lot of fix and clean code. > >we talk about our chaos code for css, styles, classes etc .... >about that Tchichi and @ngelspike work to clean code, to prepare list of class we must use in modules and core, so all >people use same class when write modules, blocks or themes, they want to release public list in next days. >Tchichi work also to check, delete or remplace deprecated class in our code > >We talk also about better and intesive use of css in eNvoution > >We talk also about sytle.php, is nice idea but i think it not work very good and make envolution slowly. maybe we can >use style.css for that, so we can have one theme with 5 style.css stylered.css styleblue.css bla bla bla > >Tichichi work also around new clear theme, compatibility with browsers ie opera mozilla etc and W3C > >We all agree to keep compatiblity with modules and blocks Postnuke, and sure after next release we can take time to >check and clean some modules for eNvolution > >I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and explain promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic >men power of envolution and what they can make with eNvolution, we need to have themes themes .. > >About modules and blocks i just put online www.envoaddon.com, that want to be our demo site where we can show modules, >blocks addons show with envolution, i need to work around this theme a little more because it keep left colomn when i >use logic plus, so i put online lot of modules blocks etc asap ..... this site is in multilanguage mode and only with >little news to explain " we have add this module with these features .... ", people can see it in actio, but for support >or downloads they are redirect in our support sites ..... >I think that, with this site is very easy also for french user to know that german user have developed module and need >to be translated or to promote it ... > >Maybe we can think also about something like xaraya, one repository where we or developer can assign number for each >module and let know people about what he mean develope and status of developement. > >Ok for now is good ..... that si only some suggestion we can start talk about ..... > >So people... i read nothing about who have time to be lead developer, so i repeat my question: > > Who have time and want to be lead developer ? > >TiMax > > > Do the italian people know something about our discussion? -- mailto:chr...@t-... personal: http://www.christoph-schwaeppe.de CMS: http://www.envolution.de ICQ: 174676647 jabber gat...@am... |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-05-28 21:18:41
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Sjahrazad Alamsjah wrote: >On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:03:49 -0400, TiMax wrote > > >>[...] >>I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and explain >>promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic men power of >>envolution and what they can make with eNvolution, we need to have >>themes themes .. [...] >> >> > >Hi All, > >I want to share ideas for the next installation release > >1. We create a simple theme name Default as a default theme. It should be >more functional rather than stylist theme, less of images except eNvo logo, >less of scripts, clean, white background, not grey :) and only with text >links on the left column such as Home, Admin, Help etc. Doing this way we >can avoid any errors found for the first time installation which some times >came from the themes nested tables, scripts, lost of tags etc. We also don't >need to activate listed of modules links, reminder blocks, such as pn style. >Then if they click the admin, they should see a consistent navigation >structure. > >2. The default theme is not intend to show-off rendering capabilities, but >as the first tool for the web master to configure his site. Arrange the >settings, activate the modules, setting users /groups, permission system >etc. So if he found errors or bugs using the default theme, we know that the >errors is not occur from the theme. We also suggest the users not to delete >the Default theme. > >3. We create procedures for webmaster to configure his site for the first >time installation. Such as go first to the setting, modules, blocks etc. We >define two types of modules, main modules and addons modules. So we can >concentrate to clean up the main modules completely, including consistent in >user navigations, help page, multi lang etc. For i.e we concentrate in >Subjects and Arena Forum modules, make it more consistent. > >4. To showoff the eNvo capabilites, we create layout possibilities snapshot >as much as possible. Corporate style, weblog style, designers style, fancy, >etc. Some snapshot images are available in the encompass page as standard >themes, which should be tested first, free of errors. So if they install >another theme which is not the standard theme and found errors, they will >know its about the theme not eNvo. > >5. To make the designers enthusiast supporting eNvo themes, we can announce >in our theme channel for i.e the 'eNvo Theme for this month'. Also what >TiMax suggestion about the theme competition with rewards is also a great >idea. I think we can choose the right timing to announce this, maybe after >the next release. > >sjah > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay >Get office equipment for less on eBay! >http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 >_______________________________________________ >Envolution-devel mailing list >Env...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > This would be a great deal for first time users, experienced users and eNvo also ;-) gatoNero/Christoph -- mailto:chr...@t-... personal: http://www.christoph-schwaeppe.de CMS: http://www.envolution.de ICQ: 174676647 jabber gat...@am... |
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From: <Luc...@cs...> - 2003-05-28 21:16:00
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-05-28 21:14:42
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Arden Wiebe wrote: >>On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 10:53, Sjahrazad Alamsjah wrote: >> >> > > > >>We have to find our own motto and vision, for i.e. replace the motto in envo >>main page, 'eNvolution is a PostNuke forking .. etc'. From marketing side, >>this is not a 'selling' information :) >> >> > > >I agree. Would be nice if something different could be added to the >install routine for that. I've got a sample at >http://envolution.linuxguru.ca/article1.html but now think that it need ><li> added for Oracle support ><li> etc... ><li> etc... > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: ObjectStore. >If flattening out C++ or Java code to make your application fit in a >relational database is painful, don't do it! Check out ObjectStore. >Now part of Progress Software. http://www.objectstore.net/sourceforge >_______________________________________________ >Envolution-devel mailing list >Env...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > I translated that article to german. Now it's in CVS Thanks Adrden! ;-) -- mailto:chr...@t-... personal: http://www.christoph-schwaeppe.de CMS: http://www.envolution.de ICQ: 174676647 jabber gat...@am... |
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