Re: [E-devel] edevelop.slack.com experiment

[Vincent T. <vin...@gm...>]

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:18:27 +0000 Tom Hacohen <to...@st...> said:
>
>> Heya,
>>
>> I personally think it's a bad idea to rely on a proprietary tool for
>> open source development, and from what I remember, I'm not the only
>> one.
>> This is partially why we self host git and not use Github et al.
>>
>> Long live IRC.
>>
>> https://xkcd.com/1782/
>
> there are things slack does that irc doesn't - like work well with mobiles...
> but it does have downsides. like invite-only, closed, ...
>
> ultimately we should solve this ourselves:
>
> let's consider building a great IRC client (like express - work on it), and
> EXTEND irc.

I agree on this. Extend Express like Terminology extends what a
terminal usually does.

Vincent

> yes. let's do what MIRC did. but let's do it a little less
> annoyingly. we'd need to build some server infra to be able to upload data to
> (images, videos, audio, text etc.) and much like imgur./pastebin (our own
> screenshot thing for e  and visible on http://www.enlightenment.org/ss ) ...
> allow a client to upload some displayable/sharable media and then just stuff a
> link into the channel. if you look at slack's irc gateway when you use a giphy
> image all it does is spew out:
>
> <nick> giphy: http://gipy.com/8267fv78s6238dx
>
> all you need is for an irc client to handle such things implicitly and convert
> such lines into an image box (and then download the image in the background and
> inline it once done)...
>
> this would be a major start to modernizing irc. whatever - we can argue about
> what should be done by default (download blurred out thumbnail and only
> download full sized image when clicked on - or just replace with a "download
> me" button... let's not get into that). the point is that using other
> messengers (slack, telegram, hangouts, whatsapp) people can do this and it
> looks nice and is convenient. yes people can abuse it yet such apps grow in
> popularity. so use an ancient irc client where you dont see this if you hate
> it (just a text url), or we can have options... but don't let this be a reason
> to NOT extend and improve.
>
> given a good irc client with such extensions we can get all of the benefits of
> something like slack BUT stick to open IRC servers and channels without
> fragmenting community.
>
> then there is the other problem. mobile. ultimately someone will need a mobile
> friendly server with proper remote (delayed) wakeups that don't require the
> phone to maintain wake locks... and then mobile clients. technically express
> could be recycled for tizen... and perhaps android if efl got good android
> support. similar story for ios... :)
>
>> --
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> <bar...@gm...> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm doing an experiment with slack.com as IRC alternative. I'm no
>> > expert in slack, first time I ever used, if you have more experience
>> > let me know so I can add you as admin.
>> >
>> > The biggest annoyance at the time is sign up that requires an
>> > invitation, I sent to some in this list, others can do based on
>> > domains such as @samsung.com, @osg.samsung.com and so on... but they
>> > do not allow comcast.net or gmail.com to auto-join.
>> >
>> > So if you want to join, let me know your email and I'll send the invitation.
>> >
>> > I've added some interesting plugins as people were demanding
>> > voice/video calls at some point, these 2 can be better than simply
>> > keeping a google Hangouts open all the time (and night!):
>> >
>> >  /appear edevelop
>> >
>> >     creates an appear.in video/voice chat https://appear.in/edevelop
>> > just click to join, no app or registration is required. Seems to have
>> > a 8 person limit.
>> >
>> >  /hangout
>> >
>> >      creates a hangout invitation link and post to channel, people can
>> > click to join. Marcel told it also has a limit on video users.
>> >
>> > Since we often need to remember people of stuff:
>> >
>> >  /remind [@person or #channel] [what] [when]
>> >  /remind me to drink water at 3pm every day
>> >  /remind me on June 1st to wish Linda happy birthday
>> >  /remind #team-alpha to update the project status every Monday at 9am
>> >  /remind @jessica about the interview in 3 hours
>> >  /remind @peter tomorrow "Please review the office seating plan"
>> >
>> > or:
>> >
>> >   /todo @okra fix ephoto!
>> >   /mytodo help vtorri with ecore-con on win32
>> >
>> >
>> > It can integrate with jenkins as well, but I don't have the permission
>> > to do that in our jenkins.
>> >
>> > So far, the web-browser version is as usable as the app, at least on
>> > Linux/Chrome, so no install is required. It looks quite nice and also
>> > provides phone applications (iOS version is very good). I also liked
>> > that it have built-in "pastebin", just click the "[+]" at the left
>> > side of the message box to send one.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
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