Re: [E-devel] [Enlightenment-intl] problem with contributions from batden

[rustyBSD <rus...@gm...>]

I'm French, and I also noticed a lot of spelling mistakes.
I can retranslate if you want.




Le 20/07/2012 11:46, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit :
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:30:50 +0200 Chidambar 'ilLogict' Zinnoury
> <ill...@on...> said:
>
> still waiting on a reply from batden here. i'll give it another week before
> weighing in.
>
>>  Hi all.
>>
>>  I'm reluctantly writing today to discuss a problem currently happening
>> with Philippe Guillaumie (batden) and the French translation. I'm not
>> sending this light-hearted, but because my attempts to communicate with
>> him failed: I'm still waiting for a reply to my e-mail, and he's
>> nowhere to be seen on IRC.
>>
>>  A little bit over a month ago, a colleague of mine came to me to tell
>> me about the poor state of the French translation in Enlightenment:
>> some strings were undecipherable, whereas some were completely
>> misleading and made him do wrong actions (especially "Reboot" and
>> "Restart Enlightenment"). I then had a quick look a the file, which
>> made me awe in shock by seeing the orthography and grammar mistakes,
>> and moreover the poorly worded and syntaxed sentences (even on strings
>> I happened to translate years ago!) They were certainly not up to the
>> quality that could be expected. I thus made a quick fix for some
>> strings (especially "Reboot" and friends), and changed at the same time
>> the team's address back to enlightenment-intl from his own, as I felt
>> it should be: a single individual (who moreover doesn't have commit
>> access) shouldn't be the sole recipient of messages that are for the
>> team.
>>
>>  Oh that pissed him off. He addressed some messages to me on #e.fr
>> (connecting, sending message, disconnecting, thus preventing any
>> discussion from happening), stating that I had no right to commit
>> without his permission, had to go through him, that it was how it
>> worked and was non-negociable and that the team address was his because
>> he was in charge of it.
>>
>>  As I had no chance to discuss, as he was always disconnecting right
>> after sending those messages, I sent him an e-mail, expressing my
>> points of view: that I had right to contribute French translations,
>> that being in my area of expertise, that never did he or anyone state
>> that he was in charge and everything had to go through him, and the
>> thing about the team address I stated before. I'm still waiting for a
>> reply.
>>
>>  The next day, he came to #e.fr, stating my inappropriate commit broke
>> the system control dialog. Vincent and I replied that translations
>> weren't to circumvent theme bugs, thanking him for the report: I said
>> I'd have a look at it (true, I have yet to do that, completely forgot
>> about it), which made him reply that he was doing something better:
>> giving me charge of the translation, leaving immediately the project,
>> and disconnected. For the record, everybody on #e.fr had been pretty
>> stunned by his reaction.
>>  I committed a few days later a huge change, correcting many strings,
>> but still leaving many untouched, as I felt I'd better be doing some
>> code, and that translation could wait a little bit.
>>
>>  Fast-forward to earlier this week, when he sent a new PO file to
>> e-intl. I was actually pretty happy about it, until I had a look at
>> the contents. All my corrections were gone. Everything was back to how
>> they were before: hi again spelling and grammar mistakes, and welcome
>> back poorly-worded sentences, which, for a nitpicker and perfectionist
>> like I tend to be, are blood-tearing.
>>
>>  I thus asked on #edevelop for people not to commit it, and sent an
>> e-mail to Massimo stating the same (he did commit it anyway). I sent an
>> e-mail to Philippe, stating that while I was happy he wanted to be part
>> of the project again, I was wondering why he reverted all my changes.
>> As expected, I have yet to hear back from him. I didn't want to revert,
>> as I feel there's no need to play who's the most childish.
>>
>>  After discussing with others, conclusion was that best thing to do was
>> to go public, as I have yet to hear anything from him, hence this
>> pretty long message.
>>
>>  I'm hoping that Philippe will finally come out of his mutism and state
>> what he has to say.
>>
>>  Thank you for reading.
>>
>>  Cheers!
>>
>>  Chidambar
>>
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