Re: [e-users] Idea - Window Management - Taskbar, Groups and Desktops

[Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...>]

On Wed, 30 May 2012 14:22:09 +0800 P Purkayastha <pp...@gm...> said:

> On 05/30/2012 01:51 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:25:24 +0200 novo mente<nov...@gm...>  said:
> >
> > looking at this its almost like a pager we already have - drag and drop
> > windows between the pager desktops and you group them pretty much the same.
> > drag from a desk to the current one to bring to the current desktop. the
> > solution in that animated gif seems much more geared to windows where u
> > have no virtual desktops and always a taskbar - away of doing virtual
> > desktops in windows taksbar-like paradigm. we already have virtual desktops
> > from the outset and the pager to manage them :) we dont have the ability to
> > drag a whole desktop from one to another - but we could with modifier keys
> > (eg shift+drag/drop). functionally
> 
> E does have the ability to drag a whole desktop. Go to pager settings 
> and set a mouse binding for "Drag whole desktop". It is unset by default.

god.. i forgot about those entirely. these need saner defaults! :) maybe also
with key modifiers.

> > these are pretty much the same. we could also save all apps on a desktop and
> > launch the whole desktop or specific apps pretty easily. thats a small
> > module away or a few lines of code here and there in e itself.
> >
> > so summary: the idea is window groups for a system with no virtual
> > desktops. we have those already - virtual desktops. we could do with some
> > more manipulation features indeed. i use my virtual desktops like groups in
> > the example, so i see little need for both.
> >
> >> This idea describes how to handle desktop management in desktop
> >> environment. Whole idea is made as an animated GIF image which can be
> >> found here:
> >>
> >> [url]http://novomente-activities.blogspot.com/2012/04/desktop-environment-taskbar-groups-and.html[/url]
> >>
> >> If you feel the animation is slow, please be patient to see it all,
> >> because it really worth to see it.
> >>
> >> For those who like the idea and are interested in more ideas, I
> >> recommend to join the FluiDE group here:
> >>
> >> [url]http://gnome-look.org/groups/?id=590[/url]
> >>
> >> novomente
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Some Features:
> >> -----------------------
> >> The "Group" is in fact equivalent to the "desktop" in today desktop
> >> understanding. Making a Group from 2 or more application creates new
> >> desktop in today desktop understanding. Adding or removing application
> >> to/from the Group (desktop in today understanding), as well as moving
> >> them among multiple Groups (desktops in today understanding), is very
> >> easy.
> >>
> >> The one of advantages of this idea is, when you need to show single
> >> application in a Group (desktop in today understanding), you only
> >> click on its button in a taskbar and the application will show up in
> >> the current Group (desktop in today understanding), so you need not to
> >> move the single application to the appropriate desktop in today
> >> understanding. Handling this is by me better than using a window
> >> "stick" button, which shows the single application in all desktops (in
> >> today understanding).
> >>
> >> So the primary purpose of the Group feature is to handle desktops in
> >> today desktops understanding.
> >>
> >> Another feature is to SAVE Group (desktop in today understanding) with
> >> all windows layout and positions. The feature is very effective, when
> >> you often work on something what needs more than one applications to
> >> be used. Lets say that you need some workspace, where you need more
> >> applications, where every window has its own position, size and all
> >> windows have some layout. You don't want to change this often, because
> >> the workspace is exactly what you need. In today Window Management,
> >> you would always need to recreate the workspace (window layout, window
> >> sizes and positions) from the ground, i.e. open all applications one
> >> by one, set their sizes and positions, and recreate the window layout.
> >> With the idea I propose you only need to open a saved Group (desktop
> >> in today meaning) from the main menu = 2 clicks. And all is already
> >> set up. You can always change the workspace (edit it) and save it
> >> again, when you need a change. You can have more workspaces saved. You
> >> can open multiple saved workspaces and quickly switch among them with
> >> one click.
> >>
> >> More over, when you need to switch to application from another desktop
> >> (which is the Group in the idea), all you need is to click on its icon
> >> in the taskbar. Doing it will - show the appropriate desktop (Group),
> >> set the application to the front and make it active. In today popular
> >> Desktop Environments, you have to - switch to desktop view (Gnome
> >> Shell, Cinnamon), search the application which desktop it is on (KDE,
> >> Gnome Shell, Cinnamon), choose the desktop where the application is
> >> placed, click on the application window to make it going in front of
> >> others and to make it active. The equation is obvious "1 click vs. 3
> >> or more clicks + search".
> >>
> >> Third feature is desktop (Groups) management. Is it possible in Gnome
> >> Shell, Cinnamon or KDE to merge 2 desktops? I guess NO. In the idea
> >> this is possible. It is possible very easily to merge more than 2
> >> desktops in today understanding. All you need is - to drag one desktop
> >> (Group) over another and you have one desktop (Group) with all
> >> applications from both previous desktops. How you would do it in Gnome
> >> Shell or Cinnamon or KDE? You have to drag all applications one by one
> >> from one desktop to another. I think that advantage of the previous
> >> solution is again obvious.
> >>
> >> There are more ideas and features you can do with the idea I propose.
> >> All you need to do is only imagine you already have it in your desktop
> >> environment and imagine the work and play with it.
> >>
> >> I understand that some people won't like it. It is just that working
> >> with computer is very individual. And I welcome another ideas you can
> >> have to make this idea better.
> >>
> >> Note: The "Group" (in the idea) can be renamed to "Desktop" and the
> >> "Desktop" (in the idea) can be renamed to "Workspace".
> >>
> >>
> >> novomente
> >>
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