From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2012-05-30 05:51:41
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:25:24 +0200 novo mente <nov...@gm...> said: looking at this its almost like a pager we already have - drag and drop windows between the pager desktops and you group them pretty much the same. drag from a desk to the current one to bring to the current desktop. the solution in that animated gif seems much more geared to windows where u have no virtual desktops and always a taskbar - away of doing virtual desktops in windows taksbar-like paradigm. we already have virtual desktops from the outset and the pager to manage them :) we dont have the ability to drag a whole desktop from one to another - but we could with modifier keys (eg shift+drag/drop). functionally these are pretty much the same. we could also save all apps on a desktop and launch the whole desktop or specific apps pretty easily. thats a small module away or a few lines of code here and there in e itself. so summary: the idea is window groups for a system with no virtual desktops. we have those already - virtual desktops. we could do with some more manipulation features indeed. i use my virtual desktops like groups in the example, so i see little need for both. > This idea describes how to handle desktop management in desktop > environment. Whole idea is made as an animated GIF image which can be > found here: > > [url]http://novomente-activities.blogspot.com/2012/04/desktop-environment-taskbar-groups-and.html[/url] > > If you feel the animation is slow, please be patient to see it all, > because it really worth to see it. > > For those who like the idea and are interested in more ideas, I > recommend to join the FluiDE group here: > > [url]http://gnome-look.org/groups/?id=590[/url] > > novomente > > > > Some Features: > ----------------------- > The "Group" is in fact equivalent to the "desktop" in today desktop > understanding. Making a Group from 2 or more application creates new > desktop in today desktop understanding. Adding or removing application > to/from the Group (desktop in today understanding), as well as moving > them among multiple Groups (desktops in today understanding), is very > easy. > > The one of advantages of this idea is, when you need to show single > application in a Group (desktop in today understanding), you only > click on its button in a taskbar and the application will show up in > the current Group (desktop in today understanding), so you need not to > move the single application to the appropriate desktop in today > understanding. Handling this is by me better than using a window > "stick" button, which shows the single application in all desktops (in > today understanding). > > So the primary purpose of the Group feature is to handle desktops in > today desktops understanding. > > Another feature is to SAVE Group (desktop in today understanding) with > all windows layout and positions. The feature is very effective, when > you often work on something what needs more than one applications to > be used. Lets say that you need some workspace, where you need more > applications, where every window has its own position, size and all > windows have some layout. You don't want to change this often, because > the workspace is exactly what you need. In today Window Management, > you would always need to recreate the workspace (window layout, window > sizes and positions) from the ground, i.e. open all applications one > by one, set their sizes and positions, and recreate the window layout. > With the idea I propose you only need to open a saved Group (desktop > in today meaning) from the main menu = 2 clicks. And all is already > set up. You can always change the workspace (edit it) and save it > again, when you need a change. You can have more workspaces saved. You > can open multiple saved workspaces and quickly switch among them with > one click. > > More over, when you need to switch to application from another desktop > (which is the Group in the idea), all you need is to click on its icon > in the taskbar. Doing it will - show the appropriate desktop (Group), > set the application to the front and make it active. In today popular > Desktop Environments, you have to - switch to desktop view (Gnome > Shell, Cinnamon), search the application which desktop it is on (KDE, > Gnome Shell, Cinnamon), choose the desktop where the application is > placed, click on the application window to make it going in front of > others and to make it active. The equation is obvious "1 click vs. 3 > or more clicks + search". > > Third feature is desktop (Groups) management. Is it possible in Gnome > Shell, Cinnamon or KDE to merge 2 desktops? I guess NO. In the idea > this is possible. It is possible very easily to merge more than 2 > desktops in today understanding. All you need is - to drag one desktop > (Group) over another and you have one desktop (Group) with all > applications from both previous desktops. How you would do it in Gnome > Shell or Cinnamon or KDE? You have to drag all applications one by one > from one desktop to another. I think that advantage of the previous > solution is again obvious. > > There are more ideas and features you can do with the idea I propose. > All you need to do is only imagine you already have it in your desktop > environment and imagine the work and play with it. > > I understand that some people won't like it. It is just that working > with computer is very individual. And I welcome another ideas you can > have to make this idea better. > > Note: The "Group" (in the idea) can be renamed to "Desktop" and the > "Desktop" (in the idea) can be renamed to "Workspace". > > > novomente > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |