Re: [E-devel] RFC: E17 Release

[Christopher M. <cpm...@co...>]

On 10/28/11 22:55, Michael Jennings wrote:
> On Saturday, 29 October 2011, at 11:23:37 (+0900),
> Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
>> i'll post here as a summary. what k-s wants is to just release e17-as is after
>> fixing some efm bugs. who agrees with that? everything stays as-is.
>>
>> the reason xrandr is on the todo is that there are many complaints and
>> questions about how to get multi screen to work and we have no solution.
>>
>> the reason taskbar is there is because engage is compositing based realistically
>> and we have to work without, and we again have had enough users complain and
>> ask for a way to switch tasks.
>>
>> the reason efm is on the list is its mostly working and usable as a simple
>> filemanager - that was its point. it needs some bugs fixed.
>>
>> the reason keymap config is there is for all those europeans (and a few others)
>> with odd keymaps and people have no clue how to configure this on a
>> command-line or in config files. the other todo items could get dropped, though
>> theme does need to be polished.
>>
>> this wasnt unilaterally decided by me. i believe in making a good attempt at a
>> quality release. gustavo just believes in dumping out whatever we have. all the
>> bitching about gnome and others will happen to us if we don't provide these
>> basics that gnome etc. already DO. to many people we are useless. these are not
>> new fangled ideas or standards - this is old hat that we haven't covered. so
>> how do u expect to make those people happy and try or stay with e when we are
>> not functional in some key aspects?
>
> Absolutely correct.
>
> After 10 years of development, releasing nothing is far, far
> preferable to releasing something half-assed.
>
> I can hear the comments now.  "I've waited this long for crap?  10
> years, and this is the best they can do?  Never again!"
>
110 % agreed !!!

> If people are honestly that bent out of shape wanting a release, they
> should be hammering away on the TODO list.
Yup yup.

  Getting shit done is how a
> release will happen, not rehashing the same tired old argument every
> few months diverting time from more productive pursuits.
>
Ahmen...tired of hearing it (well that and the formatting wars).

dh

> Michael
>