Re: [e-users] app menu in a shelf

[Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...>]

On Thu, 12 May 2011 17:46:54 +0200 PaulTT <pa...@gm...> said:

> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...> wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 May 2011 21:43:46 -0300 Wido <wi...@gm...> said:
> >
> > no they asked about APPLICATION menus being split out. not just having
> > things in e that can display menus. the actual app menu at the top of app
> > windows is removed from app (requires app/toolkit support) and then moved
> > to a shared mac-os style single menu bar at the screen top. (which is
> > actually fundamentally incompatible with things like pointer focus).
> >
> 
> yes, you understood in the right way (i had no doubt about ;P)
> 
> and yes, it's pratically unuseful with mouse pointer focus (which btwI i use)
> 
> i was curious primarily because of new gnome3 and unity interfaces

understood. :) and as i said. no support for it. it's not even on a todo list
or on a wishlist for me. i don't see the point. it's extra complexity, rules
out things like pointer/sloppy foucs and i argue has no usability gain over
menus inside a window. sure you can kind of argue "fitts law" (ie just slide
mouse up to top of screen), but you still have to place the mouse horizontally
at the right menu location anyway and then u still need to navigate to the
right item. the mouse now also has to travel further to the top of the screen
AND the menu bar is visually detached from the application it belongs to and
only 1 is visible at a time, these negating any possible gains in screen
realestate and fitts law imho. i'm sure this is up for debate, but i am not
seeing a justification of the work involved to support it nor the loss of other
time saving features (pointer focus).

-- 
------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ra...@ra...