[E-devel] Re: [e-users] Some feedback

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Raster and co. babbled:

>> Hm, I don't really know what you mean, cause AFAIK gnome has never
>> registered any applications at openusability, cause they have "their
>> own" usability experts. and furthermore: I don't find gnome unusable, in
>> fact i think it's the most usable desktop on the gnu desktop (my
>> personal point of few).
>
> thats my point. "usability" experts like to claim they are - invariably
> they like to dictate how to run your project and if we follow their
> adivce we will end up being just like windows - maybe osx, and
> certainly just like gnome. i prefer to get feedback DIRECTLY from you -
> the users. i would rather the actual people using the software have
> input and not some detached set of "experts". YOU - the USERS, let
> us know what you like and don't. what u think could be easier etc.
>
>> My idea for registering e17 at openusability was, that I think there are
>> quite a few (small) simple errors you can commit in usability means.
>> these are easily pointed out by "experts". but all that's up to you.
>> (and one thing: getting usability-reports from them doesn't force you to
>> implement them :-) )
>
> indeed - priority though is just getting the thing DONE - usability can
> wait until e18 and e19 etc. we dont have time to sit discussing if a
> button shoudl be on the left or the right of a dialog etc.
>
> i can see what they will say already "you need consitency. consider using
> gnome or gtk or qt libs etc.".  :)
>
> really - i'd prefer to let our own users give feedback as to what they
> like and dont. what's hard for them or not. :)

I've always been baffled by the idea of an openusability standard.
Usability is quite different for a lot of people. My grandma's idea of
usability is much different to a mine, and one of the great things about
linux is it can create desktops that cater to both. Having some sort of
standard for this seems to defeat the variety of choice. Certainly some
things will approach a similar state, but that should happen as a natural
evolution as different approaches explore and fail/succeed as they will.
Constrain that system and you may potentially miss some novel advances
along the way.

As for those using E17, going to people who probably dont even use or are
attracted to the enlightenment desktop for suggestions (despite their
'expertness') is really quite odd! Glad you still value our feedback
raster :)

Regards,
Daniel Stonier