From: David T. <dt...@gm...> - 2005-09-28 14:04:49
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Stefan Franz wrote: > David Seikel wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:39:15 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) >> <ra...@ra...> wrote: >> >> >>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:24:28 +1000 David Seikel >>> <won...@ya...> babbled: >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:06:29 +0900 Jerome Pinot <ng...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> From the e17/apps/e/TODO file: >>>>> >>>>> "* BUG: in general fullscreen needs work, cleaning and testing. >>>>> dont allow >>>>> desktop switches for the desk a fullscreened window is on, nor >>>>> allow [...]" >>>>> >>>>> Well, actually I didn't considered that as a bug but mostly as a >>>>> feature. I found nice to switch desktops easily even during a >>>>> fullscreen mode. >>>>> >>>>> Why putting this in a bug section ? Is it breaking some WM >>>>> standards ? Is it a choice ? >>>>> >>>>> In my case, if you change this, I would appreciate a way to keep >>>>> this behaviour, via a config somewhere. >>>> >>>> >>>> I agree. In my case, most of my desktops have a single fullscreen >>>> application in them, and I rely on being able to switch desktops >>>> easily. >>> >>> >>> remember fullscreen != maximized. fullscreen means no titlebar, no >>> border, no controls. app IS the entire screen. >> > > a transparent eterm without borders, buttonbar and just defined by the > dropshadow is one of thoose eye candy features i love about e > and a fullscreen console is the way i like ssh-ing to my server > but not being able to switch desktops while working... > well, you decide > > switching from a running fullscreen mplayer to my mail client desktop > is quite handy too. > >> >> >> App is the entire DESKTOP, but I have three other desktops that I want >> to get to when needed. Two of those probably have an app in fullscreen >> as well. >> >> I know that fullscreen != maximized. In fact fullscreen != maximised + >> borderless. Some apps have there own method of getting to fullscreen. >> Xawtv and mplayer for instance. On both, hit the 'f' key and you get >> fullscreen. However, in e17 fullscreen == on top, and that is also a >> problem. >> >> Run xawtv, make it fullscreen with 'f' key. A right mouse click brings >> up the control window, but the original window is fullscreen AND on >> top, so you need to reach for the 'f' key to deactivate fullscreen >> mode. Most of the time when you bring up the control window, it's only >> so you can click a single button, or select a single menu option. Then >> right click to close the control window, and hit 'f' key to bring it to >> fullscreen again. What could otherwise be a mouse only operation that >> leaves your TV picture at full size now involves to unnecessary >> keyboard hits. Which is even more awkward, coz when I'm watching TV, >> I lean back, and the keyboard is a lot harder to get to than the mouse >> in that case. >> Also, during commercials, I like to quickly swap to the desktop with my >> email client, and see if there is any new email. I do this by moving >> the mouse off the edge of the screen. If the above mentioned TODO goes >> ahead, and desktop switches are disabled for fullscreen mode are not >> allowed, then I am SOL. >> >> With mplayer, I have it configured to run in fullscreen mode by >> default. I also tend to run it from my fullscreen'ed terminal. This >> caused lot's of problems when I first tried that under e17. The >> fullscreen terminal was on top, which had priority over >> fullscreen mplayers on top, so mplayer never appeared. ALT+TAB a few >> times got me a small mplayer window, which I had to then full screen >> again. >> The end result is that now fullscreen is useless, as maximised + >> borderless behaves the way I want. However, some apps go into >> fullscreen on their own, and they tend to not like maximised + >> borderless so much. >> >> To make me happy, and I suspect everybody else in this thread, have an >> option to make fullscreen == maximised + borderless, not automatically >> on top, and allowing desktop switching. In fact, there is a good >> argument for fullscreen being on bottom, as any other window opening up >> (say a control window for the same app) will then be visible and >> accessible. Every app I maximise + borderless, I also move to bottom, >> then remember and lock. >> >> I have recently changed my email client to maximised + borderless, and >> on the bottom. If I had gone with fullscreen, I would be typing blind, >> as the mail composing is in a different window. >> > You can still access your other desktops with CTRL+ALT+(Arrow key > [left] [right]), thats how I do it. Me AND my wife both fully support > the app being the whole, complete desktop, nothing else showing. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > |