Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Expos=E9_for_E17?=

[Paulo J. de O. C. de M. <po...@sa...>]

Felix Boecker said:
> I used e16 for about 5 minutes before being so amazed that I
> just had to upgrade to e17 already so I'm not sure what exactly
> I'm talking about, but  ... e16 has a task manager or something
> in the bottom left corner that displays the windows and also
> window contents ... how are those window contents drawn? and
> couldn't the same mechanism be used for this "expose"? I've
> used e17 for about a day now and I haven't had a chance to look
> into all the intricate details of the underlying source code
> yet but from a pure user perspective it seems to me that the
> code to do this has already been written and implemented in
> e16. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>

AFAIK, the task bar just shows a snapshot of the window which
is updated in real-time if you wish. However, it's just a
snapshot...

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos"
> <po...@sa...>
> To: "Christian Pedaschus" <cpe...@gm...>
> Subject: Re: [e-users] Re: [e-users] Expos=E9 for E17
> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:03:20 +0100 (WEST)
>
>>
>>
>> Christian Pedaschus said:
>>
>> > Because if the content of a window is fully themable, there
>> > also should
>> > be the possibility to adjust the size of all elements
>> inside
>> > the window,
>> > at least i understand it this way... (?)
>> > Rasterman (or someone else with the needed knowledge), plz
>> show
>> > us the
>> > right way to go :)
>> >
>>
>> I'm really not sure about this but I imagine that it would be
>> possible to "imitate" Expos=E9 completely if ALL software is
>> based in EFL, however that is not the case so probably, we're
>> not able to control the content of a window if its app was
>> developed in for example, gtk+. So perhaps, if we could
>> possibly know if we have a software written with EFL we could
>> optimize the software to work with its window and if it is
>> not
>> written with EFL, we would just take the snapshot...
>>
>> Probably I'm completely on the wrong track but that's just my
>> two cents...
>>
>> > Greets, Christian Pedaschus
>> >
>> > PS. Anyone else has probs reaching www.enlightenment.org?
>> It's
>> > very
>> > slow and often aborts connection ...? (could be on my side
>> too,
>> > my isp
>> > changed some things shortly)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote:
>> >
>> >> Christian Pedaschus said:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> PS. Just read the message from Christian Engels and i
>> think,
>> >>> that this
>> >>> should be no
>> >>> problem.
>> >>> As an Idea: The windows don't need to be refreshed while
>> >>> showing them in
>> >>> epose (would be nice, but is not needed for the
>> >>> functionality)
>> >>> , so it
>> >>> would(?) be enough,
>> >>> to just take a screenshot of the window, resize and
>> display
>> >>> it.
>> >>> no need
>> >>> for e to change
>> >>> font-sizes or take care of the layout 'inside' the
>> window.
>> >>> perhaps i missed something in expose (never used it), but
>> i
>> >>> guess that
>> >>> should be
>> >>> working, or? Plz correct me if i'm wrong..
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> At least for a first-version features I agree with
>> Christian.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Thomas Kleinbauer wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> So, I really have no clue at all about the e17
>> internals,
>> >>>> but
>> >>>> I do have some
>> >>>> programming experience and would be willing to
>> participate
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> an effort to
>> >>>> create something like Expos=E9 for e17. But I think,
>> somebody
>> >>>> with a more
>> >>>> profound insight into the libraries would be needed to
>> lead
>> >>>> such a project,
>> >>>> therefore I'd like to post this official
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Call for Participation
>> >>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In order to implement a functionality similar to Max
>> OSX'
>> >>>> Expos=E9
>> >>>> (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/), we are
>> >>>> looking
>> >>>> for people
>> >>>> willing to contribute in any helpful way. In particular,
>> the
>> >>>> following
>> >>>> positions are open ;-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - One or more project leader(s)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Deeper knowledge of the e-libs would be a requirement,
>> also
>> >>>> the general
>> >>>> management and organization of the project would be part
>> of
>> >>>> the task.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Worker bees
>> >>>>
>> >>>> People willing to contribute to the code, all different
>> >>>> levels of
>> >>>> experience welcome.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Testers
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Even if you don't feel ready to do some coding you may
>> be a
>> >>>> valuable help
>> >>>> if you can take some time every once in a while to do
>> code
>> >>>> testing and write
>> >>>> high quality feedback reports.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It's not clear if this will eventually lead to a real
>> >>>> (sub-)project, that
>> >>>> depends vastly on the reactions to this call. Therefore,
>> >>>> please spread this
>> >>>> call around, but don't forget to point out that the
>> primary
>> >>>> coordination
>> >>>> point - until an own infrastructure has been set up - is
>> the
>> >>>> "enlightenment
>> >>>> user mailing list":
>> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=3Denlightenmen=
t-users
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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