[Embedlets-dev] Re: I want it yesterday...

[Andrzej J. T. <an...@ch...>]

Chris noted:

> Gentlemen, we need a concerted effort to get an accepted Embedlet standard
> in place and convince these and other emerging vendors that it is in their
> interest and the market as a whole to embrace a standard, otherwise our
> efforts will amount to just a lot of email traffic and the industry will
> disintegrate into another 'my standard is best' scenario.

I'm not sure that we need to be too worried.  The market is way too young and 
fragmented for a proprietary system to emerge as a standard that quickly.  
Proprietary solutions have their place.

Keep in mind that JBoss has become one of the most popular EJB containers 
out there....despite competition from BEA and IBM (most of the other have 
died).  Tomcat is a very popular Servlet container, and Apache dominates the 
web server market.  There are plenty of examples where an Open 
Source/Open Standard solution has "whooped ass" as my southern brethern 
would say.

> I emphasize that we need a solid action plan based on Andrzej's
> architectural outline and at start to get some roadbed down in preparation
> for actual track.

My next step is to review your Oopscope stuff, Chris, and then start creating 
some interfaces for "discussion" based on the architecture document and 
ongoing discussions.  That will probably speed things along rapidly, since I've 
been building a "mental model" of what the implementation and contracts 
might look like (to more detail that I had time to flesh out in the intial discussion 
doc).

> As the Vulture said to his buddy: "Patience my ass, I'm going to kill
> something!"

True....but we also don't want to rush either.  The Embedlet standard has to be 
flexible, solid, and extensible, plus support a wide range of platform 
capabilities.  This will take some time to create, to ensure maximum effect and 
longevity....and I doubt that any proprietary vendor will be able to beat us to 
the punch before then.



Andrzej Jan Taramina
Chaeron Corporation: Enterprise System Solutions
http://www.chaeron.com