Jac said:
> Has anyone (apart from me) ever worked with IBMs VisualAge for Java?
> (Restricted version is available for download at IBM website) One of the
> great features of it was the ability to visualy design a swing (or awt)
> user interface and visualy wire the events generated by one swing
> component to another one, or even better to wire events from beans to
> beans.
People either love or hate VAJ. I happen to hate it and don't believe in IDE's
that try to be too smart (don't get me started on that topic...500M lines of
quality 2EE code in 3.5 man years of development in 9 months elapsed....and I
doubt we could have done it with an IDE). I did a little code speed test once
many years ago during an EJB course (before J2EE was even coined)....me
with my editor/debugger...everyone else with VAJ. I wrote approximately 10x
more code in the same period. VAJ doesn't even let you see the whole source
for a class. Then again, if you have a VAJ itch, I believe your pharmicist can
perscribe some creams to fix that. <grins>
> First time I tried this I was sold. I haven't found another IDE that comes
> even close. I think having something like this around would greatly
> enhance acceptance of embedlets.
You ever had to maintain the underlying code that is generated by such tools.
It's ugly and typically unmaintainable.....but in the real world you always have
to dig into the code (every reasonably complex project I have ever seen
has).....so the costs soon outweight the benefits.
> The demo is 'old' as IBM is moving to eclipse and support for Visual Age
> will stop in the (near) future.
And so why are you recommending VAJ when it is already obsolete? Guess
the GUI builder just wasn't that useful in the real world after all. ;-)
Andrzej Jan Taramina
Chaeron Corporation: Enterprise System Solutions
http://www.chaeron.com
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