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From: Joël F. - U. of Z. <joe...@id...> - 2010-02-03 16:36:34
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Dear eLML-Users eLML plans to participate at the Google Summer of Code project again this year and we are brainstorming about what we could offer as a project. I would like to "open the mic" and let you speak: What tool or feature is missing in eLML and might be worth offering as a Google Summer of Code project? Please reply to this mailing list with your ideas, comments, thoughts... Bye Joël -------------------------------------------------------------------- Joël Fisler University of Zurich Multimedia & E-Learning Services (MELS) Winterthurerstrasse 190 CH-8057 Zürich Phone: +1 (774) 2FISLER or "joelfisler" (Skype) Mail: joe...@id... Web: http://www.olat.org – http://www.elml.org I am living in the USA until August 2010: 109 Muerdago Rd., Topanga, CA 90290 -------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Christoph R. <reu...@St...> - 2010-02-06 12:42:29
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Hi Joël, in my opinion there are some points of interest. - I agree to both suggestions of Benno. During the development of my problem-based-learning GIS-course based on eLML and GITTA components, I found first, that the structure of ECLASS is a fairly good first implementation of a constructivist didactic strategy in blended learning. But after struggling for now about a year with eLML (and 9 lectures + 9 exercises "pressed" into this scheme) I think it is to rigid in its formal structure. I would like to have the possibility to use the components additionally for didactic structures which are adapted to my opinion and needs. And last but not least I see a *basic necessity* for a top level (above the lesson level) to be able to integrate a logical "course control" outside a single lesson due to the fact that I want to combine lessons in a specific way. - Secondly the WYSIWYG-editor for style sheets would be great - the existing one is not only cumbersome but also buggy like hell. - I also appreciate the idea of Roland dealing with a much more sophisticated Metadata Section integrating more transparent informations of copyright, institute contributers and even more important their specific contributions. Additionally to most of the users it is not so easy to add items into the existing scheme. Personally I would like to have a section to put metadata for used data sources and the hosting locations of the lessons. - finally it would be great to improve the export schemes (I dealt with ODT PDF Latex). There are a lot of problems with figures and tables and some of the basic formatting become awful in detail - perhaps this could be integrated in the WYSIWYG (or somewhat) editor greetings Chris -- Dr Christoph Reudenbach Philipps-University of Marburg Faculty of Geography GIS and Environmental Modeling Deutschhausstr. 10 D-35032 Marburg fon: ++49.(0)6421.2824296 fax: ++49.(0)6421.2828950 |
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From: Roland S. <r.s...@ps...> - 2010-02-04 10:07:40
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Hi Joël What about a sophisticated metadata-editor for the annotation of the resources/contents/products? As you know, the annotation of products is not "loved" very much by the authors. Therefore, to support authors in providing useful and valid metadata would be an key factor for the quality of e-learning resources, e.g. if you want to share them, to make them searchable and classify them etc. Additionally, we could think of an more generalized editor, which can be used by and integrated into several "end-users-systems" like eLML, OLAT, other Repositories or LMS. Then, what would be needed is not only the editor itself, but also some interfaces to the other systems. This is only a very first idea, of course. Kind regards, Roland -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joël Fisler - University of Zurich [mailto:joe...@id...] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2010 17:36 An: elm...@li... Betreff: [eLML Users] Your suggestions for eLML Google Summer of Code projects Dear eLML-Users eLML plans to participate at the Google Summer of Code project again this year and we are brainstorming about what we could offer as a project. I would like to "open the mic" and let you speak: What tool or feature is missing in eLML and might be worth offering as a Google Summer of Code project? Please reply to this mailing list with your ideas, comments, thoughts... Bye Joël -------------------------------------------------------------------- Joël Fisler University of Zurich Multimedia & E-Learning Services (MELS) Winterthurerstrasse 190 CH-8057 Zürich Phone: +1 (774) 2FISLER or "joelfisler" (Skype) Mail: joe...@id... Web: http://www.olat.org http://www.elml.org I am living in the USA until August 2010: 109 Muerdago Rd., Topanga, CA 90290 -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com _______________________________________________ eLML Users List - Check http://www.elml.ch eLM...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/elml-users |
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From: Benno V. <ben...@ac...> - 2010-02-05 09:06:43
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Hi Joël, I also agree with the idea to integrate a metadata editor and with your proposal for the interfaces to other systems. And maybe also an WYSIWYG-editor for style sheets and to develop own didactical course structures would be of interest!? Greetings from Zurich, Benno -- *Benno Volk* E-Learning Center, University of Zurich Hirschengraben 84, CH-8001 Zurich www.elc.uzh.ch <http://www.elc.uzh.ch> |
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From: Lauener H. <la...@il...> - 2010-02-05 21:54:35
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Dear Joël > Additionally, we could think of an more generalized editor, which can be > used by and integrated into several "end-users-systems" like eLML, OLAT, > other Repositories or LMS. Then, what would be needed is not only the editor > itself, but also some interfaces to the other systems. I support this idea - you should think about different scorm export formats. It would be great if teacher using the LMS ILIAS could import SCORMs 1.2 or SCORMs 2004 - made with eLML. Yours, Hansjörg Lauener |
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From: Christoph R. <reu...@gm...> - 2010-02-06 13:05:13
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Hi Joël, in my opinion there are some points of interest. - I agree to both suggestions of Benno. During the development of my problem-based-learning GIS-course based on eLML and GITTA components, I found first, that the structure of ECLASS is a fairly good first implementation of a constructivist didactic strategy in blended learning. But after struggling for now about a year with eLML (and 9 lectures + 9 exercises "pressed" into this scheme) I think it is to rigid in its formal structure. I would like to have the possibility to use the components additionally for didactic structures which are adapted to my opinion and needs. And last but not least I see a *basic necessity* for a top level (above the lesson level) to be able to integrate a logical "course control" outside a single lesson due to the fact that I want to combine lessons in a specific way. - Secondly the WYSIWYG-editor for style sheets would be great - the existing one is not only cumbersome but also buggy like hell. - I also appreciate the idea of Roland dealing with a much more sophisticated Metadata Section integrating more transparent informations of copyright, institute contributers and even more important their specific contributions. Additionally to most of the users it is not so easy to add items into the existing scheme. Personally I would like to have a section to put metadata for used data sources and the hosting locations of the lessons. - finally it would be great to improve the export schemes (I dealt with ODT PDF Latex). There are a lot of problems with figures and tables and some of the basic formatting become awful in detail - perhaps this could be integrated in the WYSIWYG (or somewhat) editor greetings Chris -- Dr Christoph Reudenbach Philipps-University of Marburg Faculty of Geography GIS and Environmental Modeling Deutschhausstr. 10 D-35032 Marburg fon: ++49.(0)6421.2824296 fax: ++49.(0)6421.2828950 Joël Fisler - University of Zurich schrieb: > Dear eLML-Users > eLML plans to participate at the Google Summer of Code project again this year and we are brainstorming about what we could offer as a project. I would like to "open the mic" and let you speak: What tool or feature is missing in eLML and might be worth offering as a Google Summer of Code project? > > Please reply to this mailing list with your ideas, comments, thoughts... > > Bye > Joël > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joël Fisler > University of Zurich > Multimedia & E-Learning Services (MELS) > Winterthurerstrasse 190 > CH-8057 Zürich > > Phone: +1 (774) 2FISLER or "joelfisler" (Skype) > Mail: joe...@id... > Web: http://www.olat.org – http://www.elml.org > > I am living in the USA until August 2010: > 109 Muerdago Rd., Topanga, CA 90290 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation > Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business > Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts > Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com > _______________________________________________ > eLML Users List - Check http://www.elml.ch > eLM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/elml-users > > > |
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From: Michael Z. <mz...@ge...> - 2010-02-08 07:20:53
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hi all i definitly share the opinion of having a more streamlined editor which could serve as a front end to any scorm/ims compatible lms (via export/import) and meta data editor. i think we should have a look at what we allready have until now, with the existing tools and decide which missing pieces (workflows, concepts) have to be produced for an optimal e-content production line. a completely new functionality would be the introduction of learning paths (eg. <http://showmedo.com/learningpaths>), where several (not necessarly by the same author produced) modules could be put in relation to each other to build a learning path. the user allways knows what progress she allready made and what e-learning know how still is missing to achieve her goal. this would require both, a metadata editor and top level lesson (as proposed by christoph), to include/connect the other lessons. greetings, michael Am 03.02.10 17:36, schrieb Joël Fisler - University of Zurich: > Dear eLML-Users > eLML plans to participate at the Google Summer of Code project again this year and we are brainstorming about what we could offer as a project. I would like to "open the mic" and let you speak: What tool or feature is missing in eLML and might be worth offering as a Google Summer of Code project? > > Please reply to this mailing list with your ideas, comments, thoughts... > > Bye > Joël > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joël Fisler > University of Zurich > Multimedia& E-Learning Services (MELS) > Winterthurerstrasse 190 > CH-8057 Zürich > > Phone: +1 (774) 2FISLER or "joelfisler" (Skype) > Mail: joe...@id... > Web: http://www.olat.org – http://www.elml.org > > I am living in the USA until August 2010: > 109 Muerdago Rd., Topanga, CA 90290 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation > Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business > Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts > Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com > _______________________________________________ > eLML Users List - Check http://www.elml.ch > eLM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/elml-users > > -- Michael Ziege, eLearning Koordinator, Fachbereich IV Mathematisch-naturwissenschaftliche Fakultät der Universität Zürich (MNF) Winterthurerstr. 190, Y 25 K 08 CH-8057 Zürich Tel: +41 44 635 5261 Mail: mic...@ge... Web: http://www.geo.uzh.ch/elearning |
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From: Andreas W. <wi...@fh...> - 2010-03-15 11:58:01
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Hello Joel, Dear eLML Users Sorry for the late response, but I have some new ideas and info for the eLML community and it is not too late for distributing them. First I agree with the other guys for a better editor. The editor needs a WYSIWYG interface and a better support for Copy-Paste (e.g. bold, italic and some other basic like tables, lists elements from Word or Open Office). In Lübeck we want to redevelop the Open Office plugin. We found a student who will work on it for the next 6 months. He will start on the 1st of April. He will start a project blog about it. Another idea for e new output format will be the EPUB format for the eBook reader. eBooks will be one of the most increasing areas of e-learning in the next years, and for publishing ebooks on Amazon you will need the EPUB format. I don't know which format the iPad will support. Most of the eBooks could handle PDF, but not the amazon store yet. Best wishes from North Germany Andreas > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Joël Fisler - University of Zurich [mailto:joe...@id...] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2010 17:36 > An: elm...@li... > Betreff: [eLML Users] Your suggestions for eLML Google Summer of Code projects > > Dear eLML-Users > eLML plans to participate at the Google Summer of Code project again this year and we are > brainstorming about what we could offer as a project. I would like to "open the mic" and let you > speak: What tool or feature is missing in eLML and might be worth offering as a Google Summer of Code > project? > > Please reply to this mailing list with your ideas, comments, thoughts... > > Bye > Joël > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joël Fisler > University of Zurich > Multimedia & E-Learning Services (MELS) > Winterthurerstrasse 190 > CH-8057 Zürich > > Phone: +1 (774) 2FISLER or "joelfisler" (Skype) > Mail: joe...@id... > Web: http://www.olat.org – http://www.elml.org > > I am living in the USA until August 2010: > 109 Muerdago Rd., Topanga, CA 90290 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation > Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business > Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts > Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com > _______________________________________________ > eLML Users List - Check http://www.elml.ch > eLM...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/elml-users |
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From: Joël F. - U. of Z. <joe...@id...> - 2010-03-15 15:06:23
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Hi Andreas, A quick reply with latest status updates from my side. First of all, I am happy to read that you still work with eLML. I thought you already gave up open source and went back to commercial :-) On 15.03.2010, at 04:43, Andreas Wittke wrote: > First I agree with the other guys for a better editor. The editor needs a WYSIWYG interface and a better support for Copy-Paste (e.g. bold, italic and some other basic like tables, lists elements from Word or Open Office). Copy-Paste has been working in the Editor for a long time, at least for things that can be set with the formatted-element (bold, italic etc.). More complex things like tables are not (yet?) supported, I dont know how complex that would be. You should monitor the following bug to get status updates about this: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2204386&group_id=123157&atid=695590 Nevertheless, we certainly welcome a redevelopment of the open office plugin from your side! > In Lübeck we want to redevelop the Open Office plugin. We found a student who will work on it for the next 6 months. He will start on the 1st of April. He will start a project blog about it. Cool, share the link as soon as its up and running! > Another idea for e new output format will be the EPUB format for the eBook reader. eBooks will be one of the most increasing areas of e-learning in the next years, and for publishing ebooks on Amazon you will need the EPUB format. I don't know which format the iPad will support. Most of the eBooks could handle PDF, but not the amazon store yet. You might remember that we had that on the list for last year and you might wonder why not this year. The reason is very simple: I already did create the ePub converter. Last year I was not sure yet which eBook format eLML should support but since Apple announced the support for ePub (which was also my favorite format because its XML based but since Amazon Kindle did not support it I was reluctant to use it) the decision was easy. When creating the list of GSoC projects this year and doing some research about the ePub format I found out that its not much more than a content package with a different manifest file, I thought that this is too easy for a GSoC project and in less than one day I had my first eLML-ePub-Lesson running. The beauty of XML :-) Anyway, I did not plan to announce this yet because I want to first test it on a an iPad (which I already ordered and I should get it in two weeks, we'll see...). So unless there is an urgent need for this converter, please be patient and wait till April or maybe even May until I release a first version of the ePub converter. Greetings from LA Joël -------------------------------------------------------------------- Joël Fisler University of Zurich Multimedia & E-Learning Services (MELS) Winterthurerstrasse 190 CH-8057 Zürich Phone: +1 (774) 2FISLER or "joelfisler" (Skype) Mail: joe...@id... Web: http://www.olat.org – http://www.elml.org I am living in the USA until August 2010: 109 Muerdago Rd., Topanga, CA 90290 -------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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