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Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevin,


> > Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have 
> > switched
> > templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I 
> > still get
> > the original theme. Ideas?
> 
> Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no 
> reason to update every page when publishing anymore.

Nope, that's not working either. Any other ideas?

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Mar 22, 2004, at 3:56 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I copied the List as I think I am asking questions/facing problems 
> other may
> be going through.
>
> Ok, I got what you are saying...I use themes instead of templates. 
> Within
> the themes, I can place/change my templates. What happens if I want to 
> use
> more than one template per theme, say one for class pages and one for
> quizzes? Would I need to edit the python file, to make quizzes use 
> something
> different than the default.tpl template?

Yes, you'd need to edit the plugins/quiz.py file to make it use a 
different template (do a search for "themes" to find it). What in 
particular were you thinking of changing?

> Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have 
> switched
> templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I 
> still get
> the original theme. Ideas?

Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no 
reason to update every page when publishing anymore.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I copied the List as I think I am asking questions/facing problems other may
be going through.

Ok, I got what you are saying...I use themes instead of templates. Within
the themes, I can place/change my templates. What happens if I want to use
more than one template per theme, say one for class pages and one for
quizzes? Would I need to edit the python file, to make quizzes use something
different than the default.tpl template?

Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have switched
templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I still get
the original theme. Ideas?

Thanks,

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download


> Hi BJ,
>
> It looks like you are making changes that you want to appear on all
> pages. (i.e. changing the page background graphic, or adding links that
> appear on all pages) In the new version, themes might be more
> appropriate for this kind of customization. Have you checked the
> documentation on themes in the Help file? The info you're looking for
> would be in "Advanced Options->Working with Themes".
>
> Let me know if this is of any help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mar 18, 2004, at 1:21 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > Basically, I was using templates to customize the EClass pages.
> >
> > In some cases, I was putting a background graphic, others I was
> > including my
> > own buttons and features.
> > For example
> > I did this with templates:
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BJ
> >
> > William 'BJ' Cameron
> > Payson Center
> > Tulane University
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> > To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for
> > download
> >
> >
> >> Hi BJ,
> >>
> >> Just for some more info, what were you planning on doing using the
> >> templates feature? The more I look at them, the more I realize the
> >> current implementation is seriously broken. Also, I'll need to support
> >> a much more complex template language than what EClass currently
> >> supports to make templates work as I see them working. So I wanted to
> >> ask you what you are trying to do with them, so that I can get an idea
> >> of what direction I should go in with this.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On Mar 18, 2004, at 9:44 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Answers below in bold.
> >>>
> >>> William 'BJ' Cameron
> >>> Payson Center
> >>> Tulane University
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> >>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> >>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> >>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for
> >>> download
> >>>
> >>>> Hi BJ,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kevino,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k
> >>> machine)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between
> >>> templates
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an
> >>>>> overarching
> >>>>> project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of
> >>> your
> >>>> EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,
> >>>> I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme
> >>>> changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at
> >>> this
> >>>> point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can
> >>>> change
> >>>> where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect
> >>>> the
> >>>> layout for the entire course, just that page.
> >>>>
> >>>>> When I open page properties, I can only choose the default
> >>> template, I
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> others in the template directory. I would like to be able to
> >>>>> choose others from there without
> >>>>> renaming it to default every time..
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.
> >>>> I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the
> >>> version
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> Eclass.
> >>>>
> >>>> Will do.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass?
> >>> If
> >>>>> so, you
> >>>>> need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to
> >>> delete
> >>>>> to use
> >>>>> them with the new version.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older
> >>>> versions.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, the problem here I think was the Template issue and the Karrigell
> >>> issue mentioned below, just didn't realize it at the time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4
> >>> and
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm
> >>> file
> >>>>> separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame
> >>> (menu.htm)
> >>>>> and the
> >>>>> bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine.
> >>> After I
> >>>>> copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the
> >>> menu
> >>>>> graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared,
> >>> but the
> >>>>> Karrigell
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,
> >>>> that would explain the missing files...
> >>>
> >>> This was a new Eclass
> >>>>
> >>>> (However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be
> >>>> asked
> >>>> to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies
> >>> all
> >>>> the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)
> >>>>
> >>>>> ---Little bit later---
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it
> >>> up
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses
> >>>>> index.htm.
> >>>>> It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw
> >>> you
> >>>>> up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
> >>>>
> >>>> !? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the
> >>>> final release of b4.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The search function does not work...neither search.py nor
> >>> search.exe.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll take a look at this.
> >>>>
> >>>>> When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I
> >>>>> published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved
> >>>>> the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with
> >>>>> Audio/video/image.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---Little bit later, again----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is
> >>> the
> >>>>> template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it
> >>> worked
> >>>>> fine and everything showed up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't
> >>>> working,
> >>>> or one that you created?
> >>> The Template that came with 2.5b4 did not work, but others including
> >>> ones I have created solved the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> >>>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Let me know when you get a new version and I will be happy to keep
> >>> testing.
> >>>
> >>> BJ
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Answers below in bold.

William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand" =
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for =
download


> Hi BJ,
>=20
> On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> >
> > I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
> >
> > In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between =
templates=20
> > and
> > themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> > overarching
> > project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
>=20
> Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of your =

> EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,=20
> I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme=20
> changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at =
this=20
> point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can change=20
> where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect the=20
> layout for the entire course, just that page.
>=20
> > When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, =
I=20
> > have
> > others in the template directory. I would like to be able to=20
> > choose others from there without
> > renaming it to default every time..
>=20
> OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.=20
> I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.
>=20
> > Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the =
version=20
> > of
> > Eclass.
>=20
> Will do.
>=20
> > Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? =
If=20
> > so, you
> > need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete =

> > to use
> > them with the new version.
>=20
> There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older=20
> versions.

Ok, the problem here I think was the Template issue and the Karrigell =
issue mentioned below, just didn't realize it at the time.

>=20
> > I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 =
and=20
> > it
> > ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> > separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm) =

> > and the
> > bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. =
After I
> > copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> > graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> > Karrigell
>=20
> Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,=20
> that would explain the missing files...

This was a new Eclass
>=20
> (However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be asked=20
> to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies =
all=20
> the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)
>=20
> > ---Little bit later---
> >
> > I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it =
up=20
> > in
> > notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> > index.htm.
> > It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw =
you=20
> > up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
>=20
> !? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the=20
> final release of b4.
>=20
> > The search function does not work...neither search.py nor =
search.exe.
>=20
> I'll take a look at this.
>=20
> > When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I=20
> > published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> > the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> > Audio/video/image.
> >=20
> > ---Little bit later, again----
> >=20
> > The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the =

> > template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it =
worked=20
> > fine and everything showed up.
>=20
> Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't working,=20
> or one that you created?
The Template that came with 2.5b4 did not work, but others including =
ones I have created solved the problem.
>=20
> > I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> >  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
>=20
> Thanks!!
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
>

Let me know when you get a new version and I will be happy to keep =
testing.

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

>
> Hi Kevino,
>
> A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
>
> I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
>
> In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between templates=20=

> and
> themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> overarching
> project layout, while a template is a page design. True?

Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of your=20=

EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,=20
I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme=20
changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at this=20=

point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can change=20
where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect the=20
layout for the entire course, just that page.

> When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, I=20=

> have
> others in the template directory. I would like to=A0be able to=20
> choose=A0others from there without
> renaming it=A0to default every time..

OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.=20
I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.

> Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the version=20=

> of
> Eclass.

Will do.

> Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? If=20=

> so, you
> need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete=20=

> to use
> them with the new version.

There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older=20
versions.

> I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 and=20=

> it
> ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm)=20=

> and the
> bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. After =
I
> copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> Karrigell

Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,=20
that would explain the missing files...

(However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be asked=20
to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies all=20=

the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)

> ---Little bit later---
>
> I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it up=20=

> in
> notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> index.htm.
> It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw you=20=

> up. It works fine after I rename the index file.

!? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the=20
final release of b4.

> The search function does not work...neither search.py nor search.exe.

I'll take a look at this.

> When I added=A0text to a=A0page, it did not display even after I=20
> published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> Audio/video/image.
> =A0
> ---Little bit later, again----
> =A0
> The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the=20=

> template. I copied and renamed an old one=A0to default.tpl=A0and it =
worked=20
> fine and everything showed up.

Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't working,=20
or one that you created?

> I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
>  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

Thanks!!

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.

I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k machine)

In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between templates =
and
themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an overarching
project layout, while a template is a page design. True?

When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, I =
have
others in the template directory. I would like to be able to choose =
others from there without
renaming it to default every time..

Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the version =
of
Eclass.

Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? If =
so, you
need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete to =
use
them with the new version.

I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 and it
ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm) and =
the
bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. After I
copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but the
Karrigell

---Little bit later---

I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it up in
notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses =
index.htm.
It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw you =
up. It works fine after I rename the index file.

The search function does not work...neither search.py nor search.exe.

When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I published. =
I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved the setting, it =
just doesn't output. Same thing happens with Audio/video/image.

---Little bit later, again----

The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the =
template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it worked =
fine and everything showed up.

I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to=20
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

Thanks,

BJ

William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: <ecl...@li...>
Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:38 PM
Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download


> Hi everyone,
>=20
> I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for testing.=20
> You can download it from:
>=20
> http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
>=20
> I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web site=20
> for download.
>=20
> What's changed?
>=20
> - New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system for=20
> localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new system is =
more=20
> automated (I can automatically update the translation dictionaries),=20
> can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and=20
> there's even a little program people can use to update the =
localization=20
> files. You can learn more about how to update the localization files =
by=20
> checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd=20
> particularly like to hear feedback from people who are localizing=20
> EClass into Spanish or French on this.
>=20
> - Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages=20
> one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that lets you=20
> automatically upload a file any time it is changed.
>=20
> - Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other users.
>=20
> - Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the filename =

> for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.
>=20
> In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass interface=20
> with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating the web =

> site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found at:
>=20
> http://www.eclass.net/newlook
>=20
> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
>=20
>=20
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[Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi everyone,

I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for testing. 
You can download it from:

http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe

I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web site 
for download.

What's changed?

- New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system for 
localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new system is more 
automated (I can automatically update the translation dictionaries), 
can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and 
there's even a little program people can use to update the localization 
files. You can learn more about how to update the localization files by 
checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd 
particularly like to hear feedback from people who are localizing 
EClass into Spanish or French on this.

- Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages 
one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that lets you 
automatically upload a file any time it is changed.

- Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other users.

- Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the filename 
for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.

In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass interface 
with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating the web 
site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found at:

http://www.eclass.net/newlook

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Kevin

[Eclass-users] RE: Hyperlinks vs. Hotlinks

[Barbara F. <bar...@ve...>]

Hello all,

I have come across a couple of differences between putting hyperlinks in
an eClass page using the html editor of your choice vs. using hotlinks
to create such links.  

1. You can't link to other eClass pages using your html editor.  You can
only do that with hotlinks. (??)  

2. When you create a link to a file (in the file folder)...
a. if you are using hotlinks, the file will open in a new window
b. if you are inserting a hyperlink using your html editor, the file
will open in the main content frame rather than a new window.  

Is this true in all cases or just the result of settings on my computer?
Barbara Fillip

[Eclass-users] Themes and templates Questions

[Barbara F. <vze...@ve...>]

Hello Kevin,

I can't figure out how to use themes and templates.
I've had a problem with my pages.  All pages are meant to have the same
look.  I've used a table, with three rows. You can see what I mean at
http://www.knowledgefordevelopment.com/Teaching/ICTen/ICTs-Intro/index.h
tm . The top and bottom rows are mainly for looks, they have a blue
background and the middle row is for the main body of the text of that
page.  When I make revisions, the top row has a tendency to disappear
for some reason.  If I edit the page and reinsert the top row, then the
next page loses its top row.  

I'm trying to find an effective way to have a consistent look for all
pages without using the table if that's creating a problem.  Is the
answer a template or a theme?  I don't understand how to use either. 

Barbara Fillip
Knowledge for Development, LLC
http://www.knowledgefordevelopment.com

Re: [Eclass-users] Use of e-Class

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Dear Georgios,

In terms of EClass's licensing, there are two issues: the copyright of 
the program itself, and copyright of products created using the 
EClass.Builder program.

As for products you create using EClass.Builder, the copyright for 
those belongs to whoever built them - we retain no copyright over the 
content others produce. You are free to build and distribute e-learning 
modules using EClass.Builder as you please as they belong to you.

As for the program itself, you are free to use the EClass.Builder 
program and even modify and/or re-distribute it, even charging for it - 
provided that you ensure that you redistribute the license/License.txt 
file along with it. The license.txt file contains other conditions 
(which are very few), but you should read it to understand them. 
EClass.Builder is copyright Tulane University, although any 
modifications you make belong to you. If you make modifications to the 
program, please make it clear that your version of the program is not 
the same as the version available for download at www.eclass.net. (It 
would be helpful if you also listed your modifications, so that people 
will know what has changed from the main application.)

Please let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Dec 15, 2003, at 10:21 AM, Georgios Nutsos wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I participate in a project funded by EU and a partner (University) is
> going to develop an e-learning application based on e-class or use 
> e-class
> as is. They are getting money for it - lot of money. Is it legal? In 
> our
> case there is a company that is going to use the products of these
> projects. Who owns the copyright for the e-learning application?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Georgios Nutsos
>
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[Eclass-users] Use of e-Class

[Georgios N. <gn...@e-...>]

Dear All,

I participate in a project funded by EU and a partner (University) is
going to develop an e-learning application based on e-class or use e-class
as is. They are getting money for it - lot of money. Is it legal? In our
case there is a company that is going to use the products of these
projects. Who owns the copyright for the e-learning application?

Best regards,

Georgios Nutsos

Re: [Eclass-users] What is the difference between Karrigell.exe and httpservere.exe?

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Dec 8, 2003, at 2:57 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> What is the difference between Karrigell.exe and the httpserver.exe? 
> (btw I
> am using 2.5b3 on a w2k machine)

Karrigell.exe is basically a new server program I'm using that lets me 
execute Python scripts on CD without making them executables. This will 
let me extend the features of the CD version without considerably 
bloating the overall size of the CD.

> I have noticed that the autorun.inf now points to Karrigell.exe and not
> httpserver.exe. I have tried using the Karrigell.exe several times, 
> but it
> doesn't want to open the swish-e search page.
>
> I am now getting python errors when using the Karrigell.exe. (attached)
> Ideas? Comments? Also the httpserver now seems to be running rrrrreal 
> slow.

httpserver should no longer be used, consider it an old version. As for 
the Karrigell problems, one thing I saw several times is that it was 
looking for FrontPage files that didn't exist, which was causing a 
'crash' in Python. This is really strange. The strange thing is that 
even though they don't exist, IE is requesting them so it must think 
that it exists for some reason. I can probably make a workaround so 
that this 'fails' more gracefully. (i.e. does not produce an error) It 
seems to always happen with DOC files.

Hmmm... This may explain the annoying problems that we have with Word 
asking for a name and password when you click to view a document. Maybe 
what is happening is that IE is programmed to, whenever you access a 
Word document (or office document) over the web, check the server to 
see if the document can be edited, and if so, provide the 
username/password prompt. Since this functionality would only work with 
FrontPage, it looks for a FrontPage information file which in this case 
doesn't exist.

In any case, I'll try and patch this up and get a fix out in the next 
couple days.

Thanks,

Kevin

[Eclass-users] What is the difference between Karrigell.exe and httpservere.exe?

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevin,

What is the difference between Karrigell.exe and the httpserver.exe? (btw I
am using 2.5b3 on a w2k machine)

I have noticed that the autorun.inf now points to Karrigell.exe and not
httpserver.exe. I have tried using the Karrigell.exe several times, but it
doesn't want to open the swish-e search page.

I am now getting python errors when using the Karrigell.exe. (attached)
Ideas? Comments? Also the httpserver now seems to be running rrrrreal slow.

Thanks,

BJ



William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University

[Eclass-users] Draft documentation and new web site

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

I've come up with a draft of the new web site and documentation, and 
wanted to hear your thoughts. The developer documentation particularly 
is still a work in progress, but I'd like to have some feedback so that 
I can improve it.

You can see the new site at:

http://www.eclass.net/newlook/

Click on "Learn" in the top menubar, and then click on the 
Documentation link to see the new docs. Your comments and suggestions 
are appreciated!

Thanks,

Kevin 

[Eclass-users] EClass.Builder 2.5 Beta 3 release

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

Early next week I want to release EClass.Builder 2.5 b3 but I wanted to 
get some feedback to make sure it was running OK on other peoples' 
machines first. You can download it here:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b3.exe

I've added a few new features because they didn't take much work to put 
in and people were asking for them. =) These include:

- Theme Manager (Tools->Theme Manager): visually preview themes and set 
the theme for the current EClass
- Link Checker (Tools->Link Checker): Check your web hyperlinks for 
broken links (EClass checks internal links whenever you save or edit 
pages)
- Theme Refresh (File->Refresh Theme): If you make changes to your 
Theme, you can use this command to apply those changes to your EClass
- Cut/Copy/Paste: You can now cut, copy and paste the pages in your 
course to move them around. Drag and drop will likely make it into a 
future release, but it's a bit more complicated than I anticipated!
- Import File (Page->Import File...): This command lets you add a PDF 
file, PowerPoint file, Flash movie, or whatever as a page.

 From here, my focus will be on documenting this version, updating the 
program to use the new icon and splash screen (and possibly a couple 
other cosmetic changes), and developing an updated web site to announce 
the new version and to highlight some of the changes that have happened 
in the program over the last year.

Once all this has taken place, I will release a new version with a new 
tutorial and everything working as it should be, in English. I will 
also 'unveil' the web site on www.eclass.net. At this point, only bug 
fix changes will be made. Also at this point, if we have some folks who 
can do the translation work, I will submit all the new text introduced 
for French and Spanish translation. Once those changes have been made, 
and any remaining bugs resolved, I will release the new version as a 
final version.

BTW, for those Mac users out there, I needed to add some fixes to the 
Mac version of wxPython for Mozilla to work with it, and those changes 
will make it into the next version of wxPython, due out probably within 
a month. Shortly thereafter, with any luck, you will get a Mac version 
of EClass.Builder 2.5 that matches the entire featureset of the windows 
version. =)

Thanks,

Kevin

  
  

Re: [Eclass-users] Question about Hyperlinks

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi Barbara,

No, there isn't any difference. You can use whichever way you are=20
comfortable with. =3D)

Thanks,

Kevin

On Nov 9, 2003, at 7:55 AM, Barbara Fillip wrote:

> Hi,
>
> =A0
>
> Is there a difference between creating a hyperlink to a file on an=20
> eClass page using an html editor and creating a hyperlink to the same=20=

> file using hotwords?=A0As long as the file is loaded in the File =
folder,=20
> it seems to work equally well.=A0 Is there a reason for using a =
hotword=20
> in suchcases. =A0
>
> =A0
>
> Best regards,
>
> Barbara Fillip
>
> =A0
>
> =A0
>
> =A0

[Eclass-users] Question about Hyperlinks

[Barbara F. <vze...@ve...>]

Hi,
 
Is there a difference between creating a hyperlink to a file on an
eClass page using an html editor and creating a hyperlink to the same
file using hotwords?  As long as the file is loaded in the File folder,
it seems to work equally well.  Is there a reason for using a hotword in
such cases.  
 
Best regards,
Barbara Fillip 
 
 
 

[Eclass-users] New subscriber - Barbara Fillip

[Barbara F. <vze...@ve...>]

Hello everyone,
 
I'm not totally new to eClass but just subscribed to the list.  I've
been playing with various versions of eClass for at least a couple of
years.  I'm now finalizing a self-paced course on CD-ROM using eClass.
I'm definitely not a tech person but I like to figure out how things
work or how to make them work.  Kevin has been a great help!... usually
trying to explain to me why things are not working or what I'm doing
wrong.  
 
I hope to learn a few new tricks through this list.  I'm not using some
of the more advanced functions of the newest eClass yet (search, themes.
) but I'm finally putting a little bit of multimedia (audio/video and a
flash presentation) into the course.
 
Yesterday, I figured out how to create a graphic with hotspots
(hyperlinks), using hotwords. It's a map of the world with some text
placed over specific areas of the map.  Here's what I did:
 
1.	Used an existing world map and added text to it (using Microsoft
Image Composer)
2.	Inserted the image on a web page (using FrontPage)
3.	Added a table below the image with each of the text elements
that are also on the image (and more text details)
4.	Loaded the web page in its appropriate location in my eClass
course project
5.	Created hotwords for each of the text elements on the page
6.	Noted the URL created automatically by eClass for each of these
hotword hyperlinks
7.	Loaded the web page in Frontpage, created hotspots and linked
each to the respective hotword hyperlink
 
This works because I want to have the text elements both on the image
itself and in a table below the image.
 
It was fun but there must be an easier way to do this.  I look forward
to any feedback and other ideas for making the most of eClass.
 
Best regards,
Barbara Fillip, Ph.D.
President
Knowledge for Development, LLC
http://www.knowledgefordevelopment.com
 
 
 

Re: [Eclass-users] Hi guys, i'm Stefano

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi Stefano,

Unfortunately, the tutorial is pretty much all that's there, although 
I've just started a little project to update the web site and 
documentation for the new 2.5 version. EClass.Builder been under heavy 
development for most of this year, so the docs would have changed by 
the time they were written. ;-) In the meantime, I'll be happy to 
answer your questions!

I should note also that the "EClass Page" plugin, which is the default 
plugin in EClass, was designed partially to help us migrate our data 
out of a proprietary system (built in Toolbook) that was not 
Internet-friendly. Some of the functionality in EClass was originally 
created in order to minimize the migration work involved in converting 
our courses. The term hotword, BTW, is a carry over from this old 
system. =)

Hotwords are basically a way of creating hyperlinks in the page text. 
In addition to creating a "plain"  web link, you can also create a new 
EClass Page as a hotword, and specify which media file(s) you'd like to 
appear when the learner clicks on the hyperlink. When you save an 
EClass Page (it is automatically saved when you click OK), EClass 
automatically scans the page text for any hotwords you created, 
generates the necessary HTML code to create the hotword page, and 
generates the hyperlink.

For objectives, those refer to the "learning objectives" of that 
particular page/module, so that the learner can see just what 
knowledge, skills, etc. the author would like them to obtain from that 
particular page or module.

Note that part of the reason for the somewhat awkward design of the 
EClass Page format was the lack of a good HTML or rich text editor in 
wxPython. That's why the process is not 'visual' - the user inserts 
files and EClass does it's magic by generating the proper HTML code to 
make it all work.

With wxMozilla's editing mode now working (see the "web page" plugin), 
I'm rapidly working on resolving that problem so that "hotwords" can be 
created more naturally simply by selecting the text and clicking the 
"hyperlink" button. ;-) I fully intend to make the "web page" plugin a 
fully multimedia-aware HTML editor over the next few months so that 
people can have more control over the look and feel of their content, 
and so that the process is more intuitive, at least in the sense that 
most everyone is comfortable using a word processor. ;-)

Please feel free to let me know if you have more questions!

Thanks,

Kevin

On Nov 6, 2003, at 1:49 PM, Stefano Gaburri wrote:

> Hi, I'm a new guy :)
>
> I've just got a quick question: is there any documentation besides the 
> 2-page tutorial? I find it relatively difficult to understand 
> everything in the tool (like, hotwords or objectives, what are those 
> for?).
>
> thanks,
> Stefano
>
>
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[Eclass-users] Hi guys, i'm Stefano

[Stefano G. <st...@ga...>]

Hi, I'm a new guy :)

I've just got a quick question: is there any documentation besides the 
2-page tutorial? I find it relatively difficult to understand everything 
in the tool (like, hotwords or objectives, what are those for?).

thanks,
Stefano

[Eclass-users] Notes about EClass.Builder 2.5b2

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi everyone,

For those of you who downloaded EClass.Builder 2.5 beta 2, I forgot to 
mention a pretty major bug in the HTML editor. It will only allow you 
to save data once per session - to save again, you must close and 
reopen the web page editor. I have *finally* found a fix for this bug 
(it is a problem internal to Mozilla which is why it took me so long to 
figure out a solution) and it will be in the next beta, which will 
hopefully be released in the next couple weeks. In short, just remember 
that the new plugins are very much beta material and still have 
outstanding bugs. The HTML editor is probably the most significant new 
addition in terms of code, and also in terms of bugs, so expect it to 
take more debugging than other pieces.

Also, I am working on improving the FTP uploading code. Now it will 
show its progress both in terms of each individual file, and in terms 
of the "total upload progress". This way, you can see if there is a 
particularly large file which is slowing down the upload, and if there 
are any connection problems they will become very visible. I've also 
ensured that it will not upload the server executable and other large 
files not needed for the web site version, which should decrease upload 
times considerably, especially on dialup connections.

Expect these bug fixes, and some others, to make it into a new release 
within the next couple weeks. Any additional bugs people find that are 
reported will hopefully make it into the next release as well. =)

Thanks,

Kevin

[Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder Beta Released!

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

I've released a new beta of EClass.Builder for Windows. It's got 
several new features, the major ones being:

- Web Page Plugin: Edit your pages visually, like with a word processor 
or web page editor
- Cross-browser preview: Preview window now lets you preview in Mozilla 
as well as Internet Explorer
- Themes: Create your own look and feel for your EClasses!
- Smarter publishing: You no longer need to publish your entire course 
before previewing or publishing
- French translation!

More information and the download link is here:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/windows-beta.html

This version is going to be used in a training seminar on Oct. 15 so if 
anyone who has time could take a look at this version it would be 
greatly appreciated! After the next beta, where a few more tweaks will 
be added (like a theme manager), then some new documentation will be 
produced and the web site will also be revamped. (I'm building the new 
version in EClass. =)

Also, with regards to the Mac version, I may be able to have a Mac 
version of the current beta out in a week or two. I am able to embed 
Mozilla on Mac as well as on Windows and Linux, but I haven't been able 
to start Mozilla's editing mode for the web page editor. Once this is 
resolved, I will try and get out a Mac beta. The only feature it will 
miss is the OpenOffice DOC/RTF support and that is because 1.1 is not 
available on Mac yet. :-(

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

I'll fix this in the next beta, but a workaround is to copy the <EClass=20=

2.5b1 program dir>\SWISH-E\xmlparse.dll file to <Your course=20
dir>\cgi-bin.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 10:51  AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Thanks for the response(s)
> =A0
> I've posted the error message:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error.jpg
> =A0
> Thanks,
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Ollivier
> To: BJ Cameron
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!
>
> Hi BJ,
>
> On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 05:32 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
> =A0
> The new Eclass looks good, a few comments:
> =A0
> While publishing, I selected to rename my files to fit "the under 31=20=

> characters" (re: error message), however=A0it still asks me every I=20
> publish if I want to do this. A little annoying. Is it possible to=20
> make it automatic after the first time?
>
>
> D'oh! Yes, will do this. =3D)
>
> I used Swish-e to index the e-class but it still says Greenstone when=20=

> indexing.
>
>
> Thanks, I'll change this for the next beta.
>
> The search does not run when clicking on Frame.html or index.html, you=20=

> need to run httpserver.exe, some people may not know it. (it took me=20=

> several minutes.)
>
>
> I'll autostart httpserver.exe when you preview, and also add this into=20=

> the documentation later on. Another option would be to have EClass=20
> generate two index pages, "index.html" and "index-server.html", and=20
> only the latter contains the search function. This actually works=20
> better for any platforms in which the search is not available or the=20=

> CD cannot autostart, and would make me less nervous about adding more=20=

> 'interactive' features like this in the future.
>
> I get the following error when I submit=A0 on the search page:
>
>
> For some reason, the image did not come through (checked webmail too).=20=

> Could you post it on the web? Sorry for the trouble.
>
> The Flash plugin works great=A0 The animation appears to have been=20
> re-sized, is there a default size?
>
>
> No, I didn't specify any default size. I'll see if there's some way to=20=

> turn the resizing off...
>
> When you publish a page with a quiz, on the initial quiz page the=20
> graphic on the left is missing. "Graphics/Quiz/blank.gif".
>
>
> Will fix this in the next beta as well.
>
> Will send more comments as I work with it.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kevin
>
>
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: <ecl...@li...>
> Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:12 PM
> Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to let you know I have *finally* posted a new EClass=20
> beta.
> > In addition to some bug fixes for some problems people have been
> > encountering, it has the following new features:
> >
> > - DOC, RTF support for text formats (if OOo 1.1 beta 1 is installed)
> > - Spanish support
> > - New Quiz plugin - create auto-grading quizzes, and provide =
feedback
> > on correct and incorrect answers
> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (select =
Page->Add New->Quiz from the main menu)
> > - Flash support - Add Flash videos and presentations into your =
EClass
> > pages
> > - Improved Search support - Greenstone is no longer required for
> > full-text indexing
> > (to turn on searching support, select File->Project Settings, select
> > the Search tab, and check the "Enable search support" box. =3D)
> > - EClass.Server - resolves issues with Windows Media files and =
allows
> > authors to add CGI scripts to EClasses
> > - More on the way... =3D)
> >
> > Here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/windows-beta.html
> >
> > Please read the notes, try it out, and let me know what you think!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Thanks for the response(s)

I've posted the error message:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error.jpg

Thanks,
BJ



William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Kevin Ollivier=20
  To: BJ Cameron=20
  Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand=20
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!


  Hi BJ,

  On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 05:32 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:


    Hi Kevin,
    =20
    The new Eclass looks good, a few comments:
    =20
    While publishing, I selected to rename my files to fit "the under 31 =
characters" (re: error message), however it still asks me every I =
publish if I want to do this. A little annoying. Is it possible to make =
it automatic after the first time?


  D'oh! Yes, will do this. =3D)


    I used Swish-e to index the e-class but it still says Greenstone =
when indexing.


  Thanks, I'll change this for the next beta.


    The search does not run when clicking on Frame.html or index.html, =
you need to run httpserver.exe, some people may not know it. (it took me =
several minutes.)


  I'll autostart httpserver.exe when you preview, and also add this into =
the documentation later on. Another option would be to have EClass =
generate two index pages, "index.html" and "index-server.html", and only =
the latter contains the search function. This actually works better for =
any platforms in which the search is not available or the CD cannot =
autostart, and would make me less nervous about adding more =
'interactive' features like this in the future.=20


    I get the following error when I submit  on the search page:


  For some reason, the image did not come through (checked webmail too). =
Could you post it on the web? Sorry for the trouble.


    The Flash plugin works great  The animation appears to have been =
re-sized, is there a default size?


  No, I didn't specify any default size. I'll see if there's some way to =
turn the resizing off...=20


    When you publish a page with a quiz, on the initial quiz page the =
graphic on the left is missing. "Graphics/Quiz/blank.gif".


  Will fix this in the next beta as well.


    Will send more comments as I work with it.


  Thanks!

  Kevin



    William 'BJ' Cameron
    Payson Center
    Tulane University
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
    To: <ecl...@li...>
    Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:12 PM
    Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!

    > Hi all,
    >
    > Just wanted to let you know I have *finally* posted a new EClass =
beta.
    > In addition to some bug fixes for some problems people have been
    > encountering, it has the following new features:
    >
    > - DOC, RTF support for text formats (if OOo 1.1 beta 1 is =
installed)
    > - Spanish support
    > - New Quiz plugin - create auto-grading quizzes, and provide =
feedback
    > on correct and incorrect answers
    >                     (select Page->Add New->Quiz from the main =
menu)
    > - Flash support - Add Flash videos and presentations into your =
EClass
    > pages
    > - Improved Search support - Greenstone is no longer required for
    > full-text indexing
    > (to turn on searching support, select File->Project Settings, =
select
    > the Search tab, and check the "Enable search support" box. =3D)
    > - EClass.Server - resolves issues with Windows Media files and =
allows
    > authors to add CGI scripts to EClasses
    > - More on the way... =3D)
    >
    > Here's the link:
    >
    > http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/windows-beta.html
    >
    > Please read the notes, try it out, and let me know what you think!
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Kevin
    >
    >
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Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 05:32  AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
> =A0
> The new Eclass looks good, a few comments:
> =A0
> While publishing, I selected to rename my files to fit "the under 31=20=

> characters" (re: error message), however=A0it still asks me every I=20
> publish if I want to do this. A little annoying. Is it possible to=20
> make it automatic after the first time?

D'oh! Yes, will do this. =3D)

> I used Swish-e to index the e-class but it still says Greenstone when=20=

> indexing.

Thanks, I'll change this for the next beta.

> The search does not run when clicking on Frame.html or index.html, you=20=

> need to run httpserver.exe, some people may not know it. (it took me=20=

> several minutes.)

I'll autostart httpserver.exe when you preview, and also add this into=20=

the documentation later on. Another option would be to have EClass=20
generate two index pages, "index.html" and "index-server.html", and=20
only the latter contains the search function. This actually works=20
better for any platforms in which the search is not available or the CD=20=

cannot autostart, and would make me less nervous about adding more=20
'interactive' features like this in the future.

> I get the following error when I submit=A0 on the search page:

For some reason, the image did not come through (checked webmail too).=20=

Could you post it on the web? Sorry for the trouble.

> The Flash plugin works great=A0 The animation appears to have been=20
> re-sized, is there a default size?

No, I didn't specify any default size. I'll see if there's some way to=20=

turn the resizing off...

> When you publish a page with a quiz, on the initial quiz page the=20
> graphic on the left is missing. "Graphics/Quiz/blank.gif".

Will fix this in the next beta as well.

> Will send more comments as I work with it.

Thanks!

Kevin

> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: <ecl...@li...>
> Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:12 PM
> Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass beta for Windows!
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wanted to let you know I have *finally* posted a new EClass=20
> beta.
> > In addition to some bug fixes for some problems people have been
> > encountering, it has the following new features:
> >
> > - DOC, RTF support for text formats (if OOo 1.1 beta 1 is installed)
> > - Spanish support
> > - New Quiz plugin - create auto-grading quizzes, and provide =
feedback
> > on correct and incorrect answers
> > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (select =
Page->Add New->Quiz from the main menu)
> > - Flash support - Add Flash videos and presentations into your =
EClass
> > pages
> > - Improved Search support - Greenstone is no longer required for
> > full-text indexing
> > (to turn on searching support, select File->Project Settings, select
> > the Search tab, and check the "Enable search support" box. =3D)
> > - EClass.Server - resolves issues with Windows Media files and =
allows
> > authors to add CGI scripts to EClasses
> > - More on the way... =3D)
> >
> > Here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/windows-beta.html
> >
> > Please read the notes, try it out, and let me know what you think!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
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