RE: [ECB-list] ECB auto-saves my ~/.emacs file?!?

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Hi all,

Many thanks for your very constructive and helpful feedback!

I think ECB should combine both: Per default checking the options =
settings if still compatible and if not then upgrading them but asking =
the user before really saving the new values into the file used by Emacs =
for customize-settings:
- If the user says "yes, go on, save it" then ECB saves the new values =
via=20
  `customize-save-values'
- If the user says "Ooohhh, go away, do not touch me" then ECB just uses =
 =20
  `customize-set-values' (which only sets a value for the current=20
  Emacs-session but do not save it into a file) so ECB can at least =
start=20
  with correct values. Then the user is responsible for himself to save =
the=20
  new values of the upgraded option into a file otherwise ECB would=20
  complain about incompatible option-values each time it is started in a =

  new Emacs session.

IMHO this is the way to satisfy all ECB-users ;-) Isn't it?`Suggestions =
for further enhancements are appretiated!

Ciao,
Klaus

-----Original Message-----
From: ecb...@li...
To: ecb...@li...
Sent: 27.09.2004 23:20
Subject: RE: [ECB-list] ECB auto-saves my ~/.emacs file?!?

My feeling is that NO program should do ANYTHING to settings/preferences
without me knowing about it. I was using 2.21 (I think it was anyway)
and depending on how I opened or closed emacs (ECB active or not) it
would completely hose my custom section of my .emacs file. After doing
this a couple of times, I actually wrote a wrapper script that copied a
saved .emacs before starting emacs! That ain't right. There's a limit to
how 'convenient' to make a program before it starts being annoying. In
my view, ECB should never modify the .emacs file on it's own, unless a
statement is put in the .emacs by the user - not by default.

But don't get me wrong - Overall, ECB kicks total ass!=20

-C

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berndl, Klaus [mailto:kla...@sd...]=20
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:29 AM
> To: Thorsten Bonow; ra...@ca...
> Cc: ecb...@li...
> Subject: RE: [ECB-list] ECB auto-saves my ~/.emacs file?!?
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> Thorsten Bonow wrote:
> >>>>>> "Raul" =3D=3D Raul Acevedo <ra...@ca...> writes:
> >=20
> >     Raul> Aiyeee!!!!  The latest ECB is apparently automatically
> >     overwriting my Raul> .emacs file on startup.  This is terrible.=20
> >     I have my .emacs symlinked Raul> to ~/emacs/emacs.elc.  I do NOT
> >     want anybody ever automatically Raul> deleting it and replacing
> > it.  Ever.=20
> >=20
> >     Raul> Raul
> >=20
> > Hi, this was discussed before, see
> >=20
> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=3D7603472
> >=20
> > To put it in a nutshell, ECB only modifies your custom settings. You
> > can disable=20
> > this by toggling 'Ecb Auto Compatibility Check'.
> >=20
> > Although hating the default behaviour of ECB, why do you want to
> > symlink a lisp source file (your .emacs) to a byte compiled one
> > (*.elc)?=20
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> Ineed, an interesting question because with such a symlink not only
> ECB is able to upgrade option-changes in your settings but also Emacs
> itself is unable to store any settings done via the customize-feature
> for future Emacs-sessions! I assume you will now answer, i never use
> this ugly customize-stuff...well no problem but still your symlink
> is an unintended use of .emacs which AFAIK not only ECB but also Emacs
> too expects to be a text-file containing code written in=20
> emacs-lisp and
> not a byte-compiled file.
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> Anyway: ECB checks already if that file the option=20
> `custom-file' points
> to is writeable or not; now I have added to ECB a further=20
> check if this
> file is not a file with extension ".elc"...now only if both checks
> succeed
> ECB tries to upgrade your ecb-settings.
>=20
> Question to the folks: Would it be better if ECB would *not* check via
> default the option-values and try to upgrade them?
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> Klaus
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