Re: [ebxmlms-develop] Sending/receiving acknowledgements

[Patrick Y. <kc...@ce...>]

MessageTotally agree that the application is not standardized (yet). :-)
So, the "PositiveAcknowledgment" feature is in the =
"subjected-to-change-without-notice" state. Please bear with us.. ;-)

Regards, -Patrick

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ronald van Kuijk=20
  To: 'ebx...@li...'=20
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 4:32 PM
  Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Sending/receiving acknowledgements


  You are right that an MSH may notify the application and I agree that =
it would be a nice feature. But since the interface to an application is =
not standardized (yet) and that a server MAY implement it, I have more =
faith in an acknowledgement on the businessprocess layer in addition to =
receiving a payment in a few days/weeks/months later (if at all =
regarding the current state of the economy ;-) )

  Ronald

  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: Mayne, Peter [mailto:Pet...@ap...]
  Verzonden: woensdag 23 april 2003 2:10
  Aan: 'ebx...@li...'
  Onderwerp: RE: [ebxmlms-develop] Sending/receiving acknowledgements


    Regarding the acknowledgement, it is only a messaging layer =
acknowledgement for reliable messaging (afaik). If you need the =
application behind the listener to receive an acknowledgement, it should =
be an ack on a different level (other ebxml layer, or even not ebxml at =
all), not a messaging layer ack.

    Yes, but it would still be nice for the person that initiated the =
message to know it has arrived.


    In our case, someone here sends an invoice to a partner. The =
business acknowledgement of that invoice is a payment some days/weeks =
later. However, it would be convenient for the person who sent the =
invoice to get an acknowledgement (usually within a few minutes) that =
the message has been received. If things are broken (the Internet is =
down, the partner is off the air, our Hermes server is not sending =
messages), then the lack of a fast acknowledgement is a good indication =
that things need to be fixed.

    The ebXML spec says "Upon receipt of an end-to-end Acknowledgment =
Message, the From Party MSH MAY notify the application of successful =
delivery for the referenced message." Notification would be good, =
because then we can decide to ignore acknowledgements, rather than =
Hermes not telling us about them.

    PJDM
    --
    Peter Mayne
    Technology Consultant
    Spherion Technology Solutions
    Level 1, 243 Northbourne Avenue, Lyneham, ACT, 2602
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