Re: [ebxmlms-develop] By Passing the stub part 2

[Jason v. Z. <ja...@ze...>]

On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 09:57, Patrick Yee wrote:
> Jason,
> Do you aware of any lightweight, Java based, and most importantly, open
> source HTTP engine so that we can include it into Hermes?

I guess there are a couple options: I know that Axis has a stand-alone
server that might be of use. The other very excellent http server that
is rock-solid is Jetty.

The entire distribution JAR is large because at the core Jetty is an
http server and the Jetty servlet container is built upon that. Jetty is
OSS and is excellent. I stopped using Tomcat a long time ago because the
embedding API for Tomcat is not very good. I use Jetty as my servlet
container now as it's easy to embed and it's a _lot_ faster than Tomcat.

It would certainly be an excellent choice for a stand-alone http server.
Again don't be scared off by the 5mb JAR for Jetty as that has
everything required to run a servlet container. The core http classes
could be extracted. The Axis project itself might even be able to use
Jetty as I don't know what they use for their stand-alone server.

With a stand-alone server for Hermes I think testing would also be
easier as you can remove yourself from the immense hassle of tomcat
ClassLoading problems. Which is another reason I stopped using Tomcat.
Jetty provides a lot better control over ClassLoading, just more options
and a good API so you extend to core classes to do whatever you want.
People use Tomcat because it comes from Jakarta, but Jetty kicks its ass
all over the place. And this is not a flippant remark as I'm highly
involved with a lot of things at Jakarta. Gregory Wilkins designed Jetty
well and just got it right. Tomcat did not. Not everything at Jakarta is
wonderful.

> Regards, -Patrick
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason van Zyl" <ja...@ze...>
> To: <ebx...@li...>
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [ebxmlms-develop] By Passing the stub part 2
> 
> 
> > I will try and whip up a design. I just don't like requiring a servlet
> > container as you're at the mercy, by default, of the quirkiness of
> > tomcat's classloading. It would be nice to have a small self-contained
> > engine with a simple API that could be used. Basically the MessageServer
> > as a self-contained component. I'm certainly not going to get to this
> > within the next week or two but I will come up with something.
> >
> 
> 
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