Re: [ebxmlms-general] Hermes servlet problem

[Arnstein V. <ar...@ki...>]

That's very interesting to hear - it all seemed very strange when I =
tried it and I researched both on this list and by contacting the =
developers who seemed to confirm my findings that acknowledgement =
messages was generated and persisted locally, but never transmitted over =
the SMTP. When I researched the problem I also got this message from =
Patrick:=20

>This probably is a bug. Hermes cannot handle well of the ACK message =
when >working with SMTP protocol. For details, please see line 464 of =
>MessageServiceHandler.java in the latest source tree. The handler =
simply >ignore the ACK message generated.
>
>Regards, -Patrick

We're currently not planning to implement hermes again - but if we do =
I'll give you a call, always nice working with you!


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Torsten Kirschner
Sendt: 7. september 2006 13:23
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Hi again,

those are two different statements, "Hermes1 doesn't support ebxml =
reliable
messaging over the SMTP protocol" and "we certainly couldn't get it
working".
The first is incorrect, while I take your word for the second.

I do not know what Patrick means by "a complete acknowledgement =
mechanism on
SMTP". The ebXML reliable messaging in Hermes1 is transport-agnostic. =
The
SMTP/POP transport adapter is certainly very simple, but then again, so =
are
these protocols. Altogether it just works. There is no "problem".

We have it running in production, interoperable with different ebXML MS
implementations.
If You are interested, I could show You how it's done.=20

best regards
Torsten

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Arnstein
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>Torsten Kirschner
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>Hi Arnstein,
>
>I think You might be wrong here.=20
>
>Hermes1 does support reliable messaging, and if I recall correctly,
this is
>implemented in a transport-agnostic way.=20
>
>Anyway, I have seen Hermes1 both send and receive acknowledgement
messages,
>as well as re-send messages if an acknowledgement was not received in
time.
>All over SMTP.

Well - we certainly couldn't get it working, and this is all very =
strange,
as I had confirmation of the problem from the developers as well as an =
offer
of paid consulting work to fix it:


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>>>
>>> Hi Arnstein,
>>>
>>> Thanks for using Hermes.
>>>
>>> We did not implement a complete acknowledgment mechanism on SMTP.=20
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