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RE: [ebxmlms-general] Hermes 2 .net?
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From: David RR W. \(XML\) <da...@dr...> - 2006-02-01 18:29:33
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<div>Wahid,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I'd suggest go ask the Microsoft or .NET crowd this Question!
There's several MSN Blogs where they all hang out...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>We cannot be the first people on the planet that have thought
this.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>In which case - probably someone has already created something that
is plug compatible to IIS?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If so - you could experiment tweaking the Hermes code to use that
instead...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>DW<BR><BR></div>
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[ebxmlms-general] Hermes 2 .net?<BR>From: Wahid Muhammad
<wa...@fu...><BR>Date: Wed, February 01, 2006 12:32
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">David,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">That's the
other question I was going to ask actually. We are using Apache and
TomCat but would infact like to move to MS IIS, because some of our
client machines act as web servers for asp.net, so having both Tomcat
and MS IIS on the same machine can lead to a few issues. That's one of
the main reasons why I would like Hermes to be .net compatible so we
could go down the Microsoft route (whether that's a good thing or not
is another issue altogether).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">What would
recommend we do in order to get Hermes working with IIS only? Or does
Hermes really go down the Java route all the
way?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">Wahid<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">da...@dr...</st1:PersonName>] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 01 February 2006
16:49<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [ebxmlms-general]
Hermes 2 .net?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Wahid,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I guess we'll have to wait a while and a few
more law suits before Microsoft release a native JRT for .NET, eh? ;
-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I suspect that Patrick Lees' team in Hong Kong
would be happy to do a native <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">port</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Hermes
Java</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> to Microsoft C# - if someone wanted to
pay them....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I notice that <st1:place w:st="on">Hong
Kong</st1:place> and Microsoft are teamed for project using RFID -
maybe a C# port is something Microsoft itself might support in
future... but obviously this is work - maintaining two code bases and
functional sets.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Then again - what are you doing for Apache and
TomCat - are you using .NET equivalents of those
already?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New
Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt">DW<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>-------- Original Message
--------<BR>Subject: RE: [ebxmlms-general] Hermes 2 .net?<BR>From:
Wahid Muhammad <wa...@fu...><BR>Date: Wed, February
01, 2006 11:27 am<BR>To: "'<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName>'"<BR><<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName>><BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><u1:SmartTagType name="City"
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Hi
David,<u1:p></u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana"><u1:p> </u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">We are
successfully running Hermes V1 in Windows already but my main issue is
having both the java and .net platforms installed on our client
machines. Although this doesn't pose any threat to each other, it's
maintenance of both platforms from our perspective as the system
supplier which is the issue. It would be nice to have Hermes running
100% in .net, which would also reduce our coding time as we don't have
to build interfaces between our .net app and
Hermes.<u1:p></u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">If you could
give me some advice or recommendations that would be
great.<u1:p></u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana"><u1:p> </u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">Thanks,<u1:p></u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana"><u1:p> </u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">Wahid<u1:p></u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana"><u1:p> </u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:<st1:PersonName
u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">da...@dr...</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 01 February
2006 16:14<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [ebxmlms-general]
Hermes 2 .net?</SPAN></FONT><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt">Wahid,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"> <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The Hermes java should run in your Windows
environment - we have it running in both Windows and UNIX (Solaris)
here at NIH.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"> <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Would there be specific .NET tools that you
think should be nice to have in
addition?<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In the past I've created COM objects that the
java code calls to do discreet functionality between the two
environments. <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt"> <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New
Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
Roman'">DW<u1:p></u1:p></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New
Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New
Roman'"><BR>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject:
[ebxmlms-general] Hermes 2 .net?<BR>From: Wahid Muhammad
<wa...@fu...><BR>Date: Wed, February 01, 2006 4:43
am<BR>To: "'<st1:PersonName u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>'"<BR><<st1:PersonName
u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ebx...@li...</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName>><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><u1:p></u1:p>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Are there any plans to make a .net version
of the</SPAN></FONT> <FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Hermes MHS
component??</SPAN></FONT><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana">Wahid</SPAN></FONT><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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