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Re: [Ebib-users] searching across multiple real databases

[Robbie M. <ro...@ac...>]

Hello Joost, all

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Subject:      Re: [Ebib-users] searching across multiple real databases
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From:         Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...>
Date:         Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:27:51 +0200
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> hi robbie,
>
>> This posting relates to searching across multiple
>> databases.  Unless I have misread the
>> documentation badly (always a possibility), basic
>> emacs-based searches and advanced searching
>> (resulting in virtual databases) are only
>> possible within the one database.  Is this
>> correct?
>
> yup.
>
>> I would like to work across six BibTeX files.
>
> i once though i'd do that to, so i added the
> possibility to work with more than one .bib file to
> ebib. but then i found it more practical to keep all my
> biblography entries in one file... ;-)
>
> anyway, i never thought about searching across more
> than one file, but it can certainly be useful.
>
>> My questions are two-fold:
>>
>>    * is this functionality needed ?
>
> well, *you* need it, so that would be a yes. ;-)
>
>>    * is this functionality possible ?
>
> i don't see why not. the question one needs to ask is
> what would be the best way to do it? IIUC, you want to
> create a union db, which is like a virtual db, but
> which still allows a virtual db to be created from it,
> right? that would probably be the most straightforward
> way, and not too difficult to implement.

That is correct (although I am still struggling with
the terminology).

> a few comments to your patch

[snip: patch plus many comments]

> anyway, it should definitely be possible to do what you
> suggest, and if you hack up some code, i'd definitely
> be interested in adding it to ebib.

I'll see what I can do in the next fortnight.  If
anyone on this list has suggestions (usability,
code), please feel free to chip in.

regards, Robbie

> best,
>
> joost
>
> --
> Joost Kremers
> Life has its moments

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Re: [Ebib-users] Word wrap at window edge not truncate lines in ebib-entry buffer

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Jeffrey,

On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 06:37:01PM +1000, Jeffrey Spencer wrote:
> Is it possible to word wrap at window edge by default. This is the setting
> in all other buffers but not in ebib-entry buffer. I don't like
> toggling every time so is there a hook where this can be set every time the
> buffer is loaded??

You should be able to use the variable ebib-entry-mode-hook for that.

TBH, though, I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Both the index and the
entry buffer set truncate-lines to t, so that lines that are too long for
the window are truncated, not wrapped. If lines would wrap, Ebib would get
confused as to which item is highlighted.

But if it works for you, them I'm happy. ;-)

BTW, have you figured out the regexp to get your file names recognized?

J.


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Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 07:53:43PM +1200, Robbie Morrison wrote:
> From:         Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...>
> > Yes, I see how this can be confusing... I'll fix the
> > documentation to make this clearer. Or perhaps it would
> > be even better to use ebib-file-search-dirs for
> > ebib-preload-bib-files as well...
> 
> No, probably better to make another variable for
> exactly that purpose:
> 
>    ebib-preload-bib-search-dirs

i've implemented this.
 
> Regarding customization more generally, I prefer to use
> 'setq' rather than the 'Custom' interface.  Would it be
> better to document the hand-coded equivalents for these
> settings as well?  Just a thought though, I do not have
> strong views on this.

they essentially are. all the options are listed in the manual with the
names as they appear in the customization buffer. these names are directly
derived from the actual variable names by removing the prefix `ebib-`,
replacing the hyphens with spaces and capitalizing each word. so you can
easily convert the option name back to the variable: e.g., the option
"Autogenerate Keys" has the variable name `ebib-autogenerate-keys`, etc.

best,

joost


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37073 Göttingen, Germany

Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:21:33AM +0200, Joost Kremers wrote:
> On the other hand, the error message isn't helpful at all, I agree. I'll
> have to think about the best way to make the code more robust, though.

I've made some changes so that Ebib now gives some more feedback about what
it's doing when browsing a url or calling a viewer for an external file.
Also, if something goes wrong, the error message should be a bit more
informative than "no valid url/filename found".

J.


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Joost Kremers
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Re: [Ebib-users] searching across multiple real databases

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

hi robbie,

> This posting relates to searching across multiple
> databases.  Unless I have misread the
> documentation badly (always a possibility), basic
> emacs-based searches and advanced searching
> (resulting in virtual databases) are only
> possible within the one database.  Is this
> correct?

yup.

> I would like to work across six BibTeX files.

i once though i'd do that to, so i added the possibility to work with more
than one .bib file to ebib. but then i found it more practical to keep all
my biblography entries in one file... ;-)

anyway, i never thought about searching across more than one file, but it
can certainly be useful.

> My questions are two-fold:
> 
>    * is this functionality needed ?

well, *you* need it, so that would be a yes. ;-)

>    * is this functionality possible ?

i don't see why not. the question one needs to ask is what would be the
best way to do it? IIUC, you want to create a union db, which is like a
virtual db, but which still allows a virtual db to be created from it,
right? that would probably be the most straightforward way, and not too
difficult to implement.

a few comments to your patch:

> --- ebib.el.orig        2012-08-18 00:36:40.663700389 +0200
> +++ ebib.el             2012-08-18 04:33:38.433636738 +0200
> @@ -1518,6 +1518,7 @@
>  (ebib-key index "&" ebib-virtual-db-and)
>  (ebib-key index "|" ebib-virtual-db-or)
>  (ebib-key index "~" ebib-virtual-db-not)
> +(ebib-key index "+" ebib-virtual-db-union)
>  (ebib-key index ";" ebib-prefix-map)
>  (ebib-key index "a" ebib-add-entry)
>  (ebib-key index "b" ebib-index-scroll-down)
> @@ -1746,13 +1747,16 @@
>      (message "%s found! Press `l' to check Ebib log buffer." (nth ebib-log-error '("Warnings" "Errors"))))
>    (ebib-log 'log ""))
> 
> -(defun ebib-merge-bibtex-file ()
> +(defun ebib-merge-bibtex-file (bibfile)
>    "Merges a BibTeX file into the database."
>    (interactive)
> -  (unless (edb-virtual ebib-cur-db)
> +; (unless (edb-virtual ebib-cur-db)
> +  (unless nil                                ; robbie 18-Aug-2012

this will always be true... ;-)

>      (if (not ebib-cur-db)
>          (error "No database loaded. Use `o' to open a database")
> -      (let ((file (read-file-name "File to merge: ")))
> +      (let ((file bibfile))                  ; could well be 'nil'
> +        (unless file
> +          (setq file  (read-file-name "File to merge: ")))
>          (setq ebib-log-error nil)       ; we haven't found any errors
>          (ebib-log 'log "%s: Merging file %s" (format-time-string "%d-%b-%Y: %H:%M:%S") (edb-filename ebib-cur-db))
>          (with-temp-buffer
> @@ -2889,6 +2893,51 @@
>            (ebib-log 'message "invoking: %s %s" "find-file" file-full-path)
>            (find-file file-full-path))))))
> 
> +; robbie 18-Aug-2012
> +; from 'ebib-virtual-db-and'
> +(defun ebib-virtual-db-union (arg)
> +  "Combine open databased into a single virtual database.
> +If the current database is a virtual database already,
> +ignore the command."
> +  (interactive "p")                          ; cannot think of a reason for this

yup... you could get rid of the "p" and of the arg in the defun.

> +  (ebib-log 'message "creating virtual union database")
> +
> +  (let* ((dbname  "union"                        )
> +         (new-db  (ebib-create-new-database nil) )     ; create new database, adds to census
> +         (count   0                              ))
> +
> +    (setf (edb-virtual     new-db) t)                            ; mark virtual, 't' also works

the union db shouldn't be marked virtual if it should be possible to create
a virtual db from it. OTOH, we cannot set edb-virtual to nil, because that
would mean the user can add/delete/modify entries in the union db, which is
not what you want. (since the most efficient way to populate the union db
is to populate edb-database with the same objects that are in the real dbs,
i.e., not with copies, modifying an entry in the union db would modify it
in the original db, without the latter getting marked modified. that
wouldn't be good... ;-) )

so what we'd need to do is mark the union db in some special way, say with
the symbol 'union or the string "union" or something as the value of
edb-virtual. that would, however, require modifications to
ebib-execute-helper, so that the union db is not recognized as a virtual
db.

> +    (setf (edb-filename    new-db) nil)
> +    (setf (edb-name        new-db) (concat "V:" dbname))

I wouldn't concat a "V:" to the db's name, just call it "Union". It's not
the same thing as a virtual db, after all. :-)

> +    (setf (edb-modified    new-db) nil)
> +    (setf (edb-make-backup new-db) nil)
> +
> +    ;; loop non-virtual databases
> +    (dolist (db ebib-databases)
> +      (ebib-execute-when

you don't need ebib-execute-when here, since you're checking inside the
loop whether each db is virtual or not.

> +        ((database)                          ; for some reason (real-db) did not seem to take

presumably because ebib-execute-when (or more precisely,
ebib-execute-helper) checks ebib-cur-db, but that variable is set only in
the body of ebib-execute-when, after it has performed its checks. (BTW,
it's not necessary to set ebib-cur-db in the loop, since that variable
basically determines which db is displayed to the user, and here you're
just going through them to get their data, not to display them.)

> +         (setq ebib-cur-db db)               ; change focus
> +         (unless (edb-virtual db)            ; skip virtual databases
> +           (let ((ebib-merge-bibtex-filename (edb-filename ebib-cur-db) ))
> +             (ebib-merge-bibtex-file ebib-merge-bibtex-filename)

since the union db is simply meant as a transitory db, i wouldn't bother
with ebib-merge-bibtex-file. it should be sufficient to add the hash table
entries of edb-database of each db to the edb-database hash table of the
new union db, and after that's done for all dbs, set edb-keys-list,
edb-cur-entry and edb-n-entries.

> +             (incf count)
> +             (ebib-log 'message "current database %S"   ebib-cur-db)
> +             (ebib-log 'message "current filename %s\n" (prin1-to-string ebib-merge-bibtex-filename))
> +             )))))
> +    (ebib-log 'message "traversed %d databases\n" count)
> +
> +    ;; file virtual database
> +    (ebib-fill-entry-buffer)                 ; fill entry buffer
> +    (ebib-fill-index-buffer)                 ; fill index buffer
> +    ))

before you do this, you need to set ebib-cur-db to the new union db.
otherwise you'll just display the database that was current before creating
the union db.

anyway, it should definitely be possible to do what you suggest, and if you
hack up some code, i'd definitely be interested in adding it to ebib.

best,

joost


-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

[Ebib-users] searching across multiple real databases

[Robbie M. <ro...@ac...>]

Hello Joost and list

This posting relates to searching across multiple
databases.  Unless I have misread the
documentation badly (always a possibility), basic
emacs-based searches and advanced searching
(resulting in virtual databases) are only
possible within the one database.  Is this
correct?

I would like to work across six BibTeX files.

It so, there are two possible fixes: concatenate
the BibTeX files beforehand.  Or offer users a
'super' database, a union of the existing real
databases.  Call it super, logical, or virtual, as
you like.  In fact, 'logical' has some merits.

Anyway, I hacked a bit of 'ebib.el' to try and get
something happening.  The following patch FAILS to
work, but did run.  You should get the drift,
anyhow.

My questions are two-fold:

   * is this functionality needed ?
   * is this functionality possible ?

It yes to both, I may go on hacking.  Else, I will
give up and simply run 'cat' on my BibTeX files to
produce on single real (physical) database and
leave it at that.

many thanks in advance, Robbie

CAUTION: patch is also hand-edited so may not take

--- ebib.el.orig        2012-08-18 00:36:40.663700389 +0200
+++ ebib.el             2012-08-18 04:33:38.433636738 +0200
@@ -1518,6 +1518,7 @@
 (ebib-key index "&" ebib-virtual-db-and)
 (ebib-key index "|" ebib-virtual-db-or)
 (ebib-key index "~" ebib-virtual-db-not)
+(ebib-key index "+" ebib-virtual-db-union)
 (ebib-key index ";" ebib-prefix-map)
 (ebib-key index "a" ebib-add-entry)
 (ebib-key index "b" ebib-index-scroll-down)
@@ -1746,13 +1747,16 @@
     (message "%s found! Press `l' to check Ebib log buffer." (nth
ebib-log-error '("Warnings" "Errors"))))
   (ebib-log 'log ""))

-(defun ebib-merge-bibtex-file ()
+(defun ebib-merge-bibtex-file (bibfile)
   "Merges a BibTeX file into the database."
   (interactive)
-  (unless (edb-virtual ebib-cur-db)
+; (unless (edb-virtual ebib-cur-db)
+  (unless nil                                ; robbie 18-Aug-2012
     (if (not ebib-cur-db)
         (error "No database loaded. Use `o' to open a database")
-      (let ((file (read-file-name "File to merge: ")))
+      (let ((file bibfile))                  ; could well be 'nil'
+        (unless file
+          (setq file  (read-file-name "File to merge: ")))
         (setq ebib-log-error nil)       ; we haven't found any errors
         (ebib-log 'log "%s: Merging file %s" (format-time-string
"%d-%b-%Y: %H:%M:%S") (edb-filename ebib-cur-db))
         (with-temp-buffer
@@ -2889,6 +2893,51 @@
           (ebib-log 'message "invoking: %s %s" "find-file" file-full-path)
           (find-file file-full-path))))))

+; robbie 18-Aug-2012
+; from 'ebib-virtual-db-and'
+(defun ebib-virtual-db-union (arg)
+  "Combine open databased into a single virtual database.
+If the current database is a virtual database already,
+ignore the command."
+  (interactive "p")                          ; cannot think of a reason
for this
+  (ebib-log 'message "creating virtual union database")
+
+  (let* ((dbname  "union"                        )
+         (new-db  (ebib-create-new-database nil) )     ; create new
database, adds to census
+         (count   0                              ))
+
+    (setf (edb-virtual     new-db) t)                            ; mark
virtual, 't' also works
+    (setf (edb-filename    new-db) nil)
+    (setf (edb-name        new-db) (concat "V:" dbname))
+    (setf (edb-modified    new-db) nil)
+    (setf (edb-make-backup new-db) nil)
+
+    ;; loop non-virtual databases
+    (dolist (db ebib-databases)
+      (ebib-execute-when
+        ((database)                          ; for some reason (real-db)
did not seem to take
+         (setq ebib-cur-db db)               ; change focus
+         (unless (edb-virtual db)            ; skip virtual databases
+           (let ((ebib-merge-bibtex-filename (edb-filename ebib-cur-db) ))
+             (ebib-merge-bibtex-file ebib-merge-bibtex-filename)
+             (incf count)
+             (ebib-log 'message "current database %S"   ebib-cur-db)
+             (ebib-log 'message "current filename %s\n" (prin1-to-string
ebib-merge-bibtex-filename))
+             )))))
+    (ebib-log 'message "traversed %d databases\n" count)
+
+    ;; file virtual database
+    (ebib-fill-entry-buffer)                 ; fill entry buffer
+    (ebib-fill-index-buffer)                 ; fill index buffer
+    ))
+
+; 'ebib-merge-bibtex-file'
+; 'ebib-save-all-databases' uses 'mapc'
+
 (defun ebib-virtual-db-and (not)
   "Filters entries into a virtual database.
 If the current database is a virtual database already, perform a

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Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Robbie,

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:50:43AM +1200, Robbie Morrison wrote:
> Possible improvement -- code like this would protect
> against this kind of user mistake (and yes I know I
> could have used Configure):
> 
>   (unless (listp ebib-file-search-dirs)
>     (warn "configuration variable ebib-file-search-dirs must be a list"))
> 
>   also for 'ebib-preload-bib-files'
> 
> Otherwise 'ebib' gives the following somewhat
> misleading error message:
> 
>   "No valid filename found in field `file'"
> 
> Just a suggestion.  No strong feeling on this.

I see your point, but to be consistent, I'd have to include similar checks
for all customizable variables. However, one of the reasons for using
Customize is that it makes sure the variables have proper values, so
there's really no need for such checks, IMHO.

On the other hand, the error message isn't helpful at all, I agree. I'll
have to think about the best way to make the code more robust, though.

Best,

Joost


-- 
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Life has its moments

Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Robbie M. <ro...@ac...>]

Hello all

Just a correction in case any one is reading this
thread in the future.

Earlier I wrote:

  (setq ebib-file-search-dirs
        "~/path/to/bib/files")

That should be a elisp list:

  (setq ebib-file-search-dirs
        (list "~/path/to/bib/files"))

Possible improvement -- code like this would protect
against this kind of user mistake (and yes I know I
could have used Configure):

  (unless (listp ebib-file-search-dirs)
    (warn "configuration variable ebib-file-search-dirs must be a list"))

  also for 'ebib-preload-bib-files'

Otherwise 'ebib' gives the following somewhat
misleading error message:

  "No valid filename found in field `file'"

Just a suggestion.  No strong feeling on this.

Robbie
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Re: [Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'

[Robbie M. <ro...@ac...>]

Hello Jeff

------------------------------------------------------------
To:          "Discussion of issues relating to Ebib."
              <ebi...@li...>
Subject:      Re: [Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'
From:         Jeffrey Spencer <jef...@gm...>
Date:         Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:37:25 +1000
------------------------------------------------------------

> No worries and thanks for the heads up. I will try to
> get the regexp working with ebib-file-regexp but not
> the greatest with figuring out regexp.

Try 're-builder' in emacs.  Add some filenames to a
buffer, do 'M-x re-builder', and start typing regexes.
Highly recommended.  See also:

  http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ReBuilder

If you want some help formulating regexes, post back
here and I will if I can assist.

cheers, Robbie
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Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Robbie M. <ro...@ac...>]

Hello Joost

Thanks for your reply.

------------------------------------------------------------
To:           Robbie Morrison <ro...@ac...>,
             "Discussion of issues relating to Ebib."
<ebi...@li...>
Subject:      Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation
suggestion
Message-ID:  <3b2ae1e1-3b44-4084-b963-19c9941e6c7c.maildroid@localhost>
From:         Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...>
Date:         Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:19:30 +0200
------------------------------------------------------------

> Yes, I see how this can be confusing... I'll fix the
> documentation to make this clearer. Or perhaps it would
> be even better to use ebib-file-search-dirs for
> ebib-preload-bib-files as well...

No, probably better to make another variable for
exactly that purpose:

   ebib-preload-bib-search-dirs

Regarding customization more generally, I prefer to use
'setq' rather than the 'Custom' interface.  Would it be
better to document the hand-coded equivalents for these
settings as well?  Just a thought though, I do not have
strong views on this.

warm regards, Robbie

ps: I have a couple of other questions and suggestions,
but I'll put these in separate postings.

[snip: sign-off]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robbie Morrison <ro...@ac...>
> To: ebib users <ebi...@li...>
> Sent: do, 09 aug. 2012 23:06
> Subject: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion
>
> Hello Joost, others
>
> I just spent a bit of time trying to get 'ebib' to read
> my BibTeX files.  You'll see why shortly.

[snip: original posting]

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Re: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Robbie,

Yes, I see how this can be confusing... I'll fix the documentation to make this clearer. Or perhaps it would be even better to use ebib-file-search-dirs for ebib-preload-bib-files as well...

Best,

Joost


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-----Original Message-----
From: Robbie Morrison <ro...@ac...>
To: ebib users <ebi...@li...>
Sent: do, 09 aug. 2012 23:06
Subject: [Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion


Hello Joost, others

I just spent a bit of time trying to get 'ebib' to read
my BibTeX files.  You'll see why shortly.

With regard to the following documentation:

  File Search Dirs

  Default value: ~.

  List of directories that Ebib searches for
  files. Note that searching is not recursive: only the
  files listed here are searched, not their
  subdirectories.

I took this to mean BibTeX files and duly set up the
following:

  (setq ebib-file-search-dirs
        "~/path/to/bib/files")
  (setq ebib-preload-bib-files
        (list "1.bib"
              "2.bib"))

This failed and after reading 'ebib.el' I can see why.
For the record, what is needed is this:

  (setq ebib-preload-bib-files
        (list "~/path/to/bib/files/1.bib"
              "~/path/to/bib/files/2.bib"))

Maybe the documentation could emphasis the files
mentioned are files for viewing and not files for
reading.

Many thanks for offering this project.  It suits
my needs well and the code looks beautiful.

Robbie
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[Ebib-users] 'ebib-file-search-dirs' documentation suggestion

[Robbie M. <ro...@ac...>]

Hello Joost, others

I just spent a bit of time trying to get 'ebib' to read
my BibTeX files.  You'll see why shortly.

With regard to the following documentation:

  File Search Dirs

  Default value: ~.

  List of directories that Ebib searches for
  files. Note that searching is not recursive: only the
  files listed here are searched, not their
  subdirectories.

I took this to mean BibTeX files and duly set up the
following:

  (setq ebib-file-search-dirs
        "~/path/to/bib/files")
  (setq ebib-preload-bib-files
        (list "1.bib"
              "2.bib"))

This failed and after reading 'ebib.el' I can see why.
For the record, what is needed is this:

  (setq ebib-preload-bib-files
        (list "~/path/to/bib/files/1.bib"
              "~/path/to/bib/files/2.bib"))

Maybe the documentation could emphasis the files
mentioned are files for viewing and not files for
reading.

Many thanks for offering this project.  It suits
my needs well and the code looks beautiful.

Robbie
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Re: [Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'

[Jeffrey S. <jef...@gm...>]

No worries and thanks for the heads up. I will try to get the regexp
working with ebib-file-regexp but not the greatest with figuring out regexp.

Cheers,
Jeff

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...>wrote:

> Hi Jeffrey,
>
> I'm on vacation right now, so I can't help you on the regexp itself, but
> you can customize the variable ebib-file-regexp (our something to that
> effect) to get the filename to be recognized. It could be, though, that the
> problem is in the file path that is sent to the external program. In that
> case, I may be able to add the ability to chop off some part of the
> filename. But I won't be able to get to that for a few weeks.
>
> Same goes for your other question, I won't be able to answer it until I
> get back home...
>
> Best,
>
> Joost
>
> --
> Joost Kremers
> Life has its moments
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Spencer <jef...@gm...>
> To: ebi...@li...
> Sent: ma, 06 aug. 2012 8:38
> Subject: [Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'
>
> I just installed ebib and linked it with org-mode. I have it working great
> but I can't seem to get the files to open. I also use mendeley or
> previously did but might convert over. This is typically how my files are
> formatted in my bib (shown below). I get the error in the subject line that
> no valid filename found in field 'file'. Is there a way to get ebib to
> recognize the file format setup like this because all my files are setup in
> this manner
>
>
> file                :home/jeff/Dropbox/Research/Papers/Wilson et al/Music
> Perception An Interdisciplinary Journal/Wilson et al.\_2012\_Intersecting
> Factors Lead to Absolute Pitch Acquisition That is Maintained in a “Fixed
> do” Environment.pdf:pdf
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Re: [Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Jeffrey,

I'm on vacation right now, so I can't help you on the regexp itself, but you can customize the variable ebib-file-regexp (our something to that effect) to get the filename to be recognized. It could be, though, that the problem is in the file path that is sent to the external program. In that case, I may be able to add the ability to chop off some part of the filename. But I won't be able to get to that for a few weeks.

Same goes for your other question, I won't be able to answer it until I get back home...

Best,

Joost

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Life has its moments



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Spencer <jef...@gm...>
To: ebi...@li...
Sent: ma, 06 aug. 2012 8:38
Subject: [Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'

I just installed ebib and linked it with org-mode. I have it working great but I can't seem to get the files to open. I also use mendeley or previously did but might convert over. This is typically how my files are formatted in my bib (shown below). I get the error in the subject line that no valid filename found in field 'file'. Is there a way to get ebib to recognize the file format setup like this because all my files are setup in this manner


file                :home/jeff/Dropbox/Research/Papers/Wilson et al/Music Perception An Interdisciplinary Journal/Wilson et al.\_2012\_Intersecting Factors Lead to Absolute Pitch Acquisition That is Maintained in a “Fixed do” Environment.pdf:pdf

[Ebib-users] Word wrap at window edge not truncate lines in ebib-entry buffer

[Jeffrey S. <jef...@gm...>]

Is it possible to word wrap at window edge by default. This is the setting
in all other buffers but not in ebib-entry buffer. I don't like
toggling every time so is there a hook where this can be set every time the
buffer is loaded??

[Ebib-users] No valid filename found in field 'file'

[Jeffrey S. <jef...@gm...>]

I just installed ebib and linked it with org-mode. I have it working great
but I can't seem to get the files to open. I also use mendeley or
previously did but might convert over. This is typically how my files are
formatted in my bib (shown below). I get the error in the subject line that
no valid filename found in field 'file'. Is there a way to get ebib to
recognize the file format setup like this because all my files are setup in
this manner

file                :home/jeff/Dropbox/Research/Papers/Wilson et al/Music
Perception An Interdisciplinary Journal/Wilson et al.\_2012\_Intersecting
Factors Lead to Absolute Pitch Acquisition That is Maintained in a “Fixed
do” Environment.pdf:pdf

Re: [Ebib-users] Org-mode

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Marvin,

> I am new to Ebib, and I am very impressed. I like all the features, but I
> was wondering if it would be possible to use org-mode rather than text-mode
> when editing the annote or note field.

you can customise the variable ebib-multiline-major-mode and set it to
org-mode. that should do the trick.

hth

joost


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[Ebib-users] Org-mode

[Marvin D. <mar...@gm...>]

Hi there,

I am new to Ebib, and I am very impressed. I like all the features, but I
was wondering if it would be possible to use org-mode rather than text-mode
when editing the annote or note field.

thanks
M

Re: [Ebib-users] Emacs 24.1

[<ts...@ts...>]

Hi Joost,

Got it.  Thanks.

All the best,
Tom

Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> writes:

> Hi Tom,
>
> it seems the relevant update is already on github... Are you getting your
> code from there? If so, then perhaps you need to change the path to the
> ebib.el(c) file in your .emacs, because I've moved it from the src
> subdirectory to the the top dir. Perhaps you have an old .elc file lying
> around.
>
> BTW, I'm planning to turn ebib into a package and make it available through
> melpa ( http://melpa.milkbox.net/ ) but I'm not sure when I'll get around
> to doing that...
>
> Best,
>
> Joost
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:44:05PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> Hi Joost,
>> 
>> Yes, the workaround solves it.  I'll check github in a few days and grab
>> the new code when it's available.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> writes:
>> 
>> > Hi Tom,
>> >
>> > yes, I'm aware of the problem and I have a fix for it. I *thought* this was
>> > already on github, but it seems that it is not... I'll upload it as soon as
>> > I get the chance, today or tomorrow.
>> >
>> > In the mean time, you can work around it by opening your .bib file in
>> > Emacs. The problem is that Ebib uses code from bibtex.el, but in Emacs 24,
>> > bibtex.el needs to initialize a variable (bibtex-dialect) before it can do
>> > anything.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Joost
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:15:13AM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> >> Aloha Joost,
>> >> 
>> >> I'm running into a problem with ebib on Emacs 24.1.  When I add a new
>> >> entry, the key is not produced and an error complains about wrong type
>> >> argument (stringp, nil).  This same thing happens when I use K to
>> >> generate a key with bibtex, so I think this is where the problem might
>> >> be. 
>> >> 
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >> 
>> >> All the best,
>> >> Tom
>> >> 
>> 

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Re: [Ebib-users] Emacs 24.1

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Tom,

it seems the relevant update is already on github... Are you getting your
code from there? If so, then perhaps you need to change the path to the
ebib.el(c) file in your .emacs, because I've moved it from the src
subdirectory to the the top dir. Perhaps you have an old .elc file lying
around.

BTW, I'm planning to turn ebib into a package and make it available through
melpa ( http://melpa.milkbox.net/ ) but I'm not sure when I'll get around
to doing that...

Best,

Joost


On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:44:05PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Hi Joost,
> 
> Yes, the workaround solves it.  I'll check github in a few days and grab
> the new code when it's available.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> writes:
> 
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > yes, I'm aware of the problem and I have a fix for it. I *thought* this was
> > already on github, but it seems that it is not... I'll upload it as soon as
> > I get the chance, today or tomorrow.
> >
> > In the mean time, you can work around it by opening your .bib file in
> > Emacs. The problem is that Ebib uses code from bibtex.el, but in Emacs 24,
> > bibtex.el needs to initialize a variable (bibtex-dialect) before it can do
> > anything.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Joost
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:15:13AM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> >> Aloha Joost,
> >> 
> >> I'm running into a problem with ebib on Emacs 24.1.  When I add a new
> >> entry, the key is not produced and an error complains about wrong type
> >> argument (stringp, nil).  This same thing happens when I use K to
> >> generate a key with bibtex, so I think this is where the problem might
> >> be. 
> >> 
> >> Any ideas?
> >> 
> >> All the best,
> >> Tom
> >> 
> 

-- 
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Life has its moments

Re: [Ebib-users] Emacs 24.1

[<ts...@ts...>]

Hi Joost,

Yes, the workaround solves it.  I'll check github in a few days and grab
the new code when it's available.

Thanks for your help.

Tom

Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> writes:

> Hi Tom,
>
> yes, I'm aware of the problem and I have a fix for it. I *thought* this was
> already on github, but it seems that it is not... I'll upload it as soon as
> I get the chance, today or tomorrow.
>
> In the mean time, you can work around it by opening your .bib file in
> Emacs. The problem is that Ebib uses code from bibtex.el, but in Emacs 24,
> bibtex.el needs to initialize a variable (bibtex-dialect) before it can do
> anything.
>
> Best,
>
> Joost
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:15:13AM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> Aloha Joost,
>> 
>> I'm running into a problem with ebib on Emacs 24.1.  When I add a new
>> entry, the key is not produced and an error complains about wrong type
>> argument (stringp, nil).  This same thing happens when I use K to
>> generate a key with bibtex, so I think this is where the problem might
>> be. 
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Tom
>> 

-- 
T.S. Dye & Colleagues, Archaeologists
735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813
Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884
http://www.tsdye.com

Re: [Ebib-users] Emacs 24.1

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Tom,

yes, I'm aware of the problem and I have a fix for it. I *thought* this was
already on github, but it seems that it is not... I'll upload it as soon as
I get the chance, today or tomorrow.

In the mean time, you can work around it by opening your .bib file in
Emacs. The problem is that Ebib uses code from bibtex.el, but in Emacs 24,
bibtex.el needs to initialize a variable (bibtex-dialect) before it can do
anything.

Best,

Joost


On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:15:13AM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Aloha Joost,
> 
> I'm running into a problem with ebib on Emacs 24.1.  When I add a new
> entry, the key is not produced and an error complains about wrong type
> argument (stringp, nil).  This same thing happens when I use K to
> generate a key with bibtex, so I think this is where the problem might
> be. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> All the best,
> Tom
> 

-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

[Ebib-users] Emacs 24.1

[<ts...@ts...>]

Aloha Joost,

I'm running into a problem with ebib on Emacs 24.1.  When I add a new
entry, the key is not produced and an error complains about wrong type
argument (stringp, nil).  This same thing happens when I use K to
generate a key with bibtex, so I think this is where the problem might
be. 

Any ideas?

All the best,
Tom

-- 
T.S. Dye & Colleagues, Archaeologists
735 Bishop St, Suite 315, Honolulu, HI 96813
Tel: 808-529-0866, Fax: 808-529-0884
http://www.tsdye.com

Re: [Ebib-users] Ebib loses an entry

[<ts...@ts...>]

Aloha Joost,

Thanks for your help.  Much appreciated.

All the best,
Tom

Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> writes:

> Hi Tom,
>
>> I ran into a problem with ebib having to do with entering an author
>> whose surname begins with a special LaTeX character.  The author's name
>> is Mehmet \"{O}zdo\u{g}an, and my setup generates this key for the
>> entry: \oxdogan06:_hypot_approac_realit.
>
> Actually, BibTeX keys are not supposed to have a backslash in them, so that
> key is invalid. If you try using it in a LaTeX document, it'll fail with an
> "Undefined control sequence" error and I suspect BibTeX won't accept it
> either.
>
> Since Ebib uses bibtex.el to autogenerate keys, this is actually a bug in
> bibtex.el: this key shouldn't have been generated. I'll report this bug to
> the maintainer of bibtex.el so it can be fixed.
>
> Note, however, that when you use (La)TeX commands such as \" or \u in
> BibTeX fields, you should actually put them in between braces. So rather
> than:
>
> author = {Mehmet \"{O}zdo\u{g}an}
>
> you should write:
>
> author = {Mehmet {\"O}zdo{\u g}an}
>
> or 
>
> author = {Mehmet {\"{O}}zdo{\u{g}}an}
>
> I don't remember the details of why this is the case, but it's explained in
> the BibTeX doc. (A `texdoc bibtex` should bring that up.)
>
> If you enter the name in this way, bibtex.el will create a valid key
> (though it'll replace the \"O with 'oe', which AFAIK is not a Turkish
> convertion) which is probably why this bug has gone unnoticed up til now.
>
> The problem you're experiencing in Ebib is probably due to the fact that \o
> is interpreted as some control sequence. Theoretically, this would be
> fixable, I guess, but since slashes shouldn't appear in BibTeX keys anyway,
> I'm not sure if that would be the right approach. Though it would probably
> be a good thing if Ebib warned about such things so the user can fix them.
>
>> P.S. Thanks again for ebib.  I rely on it heavily in my work now and
>> find it a joy to use.
>
> Thanks, that's very nice to hear. :-) 
>
> Best,
>
> Joost

-- 
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http://www.tsdye.com

Re: [Ebib-users] Ebib loses an entry

[Joost K. <joo...@fa...>]

Hi Tom,

> I ran into a problem with ebib having to do with entering an author
> whose surname begins with a special LaTeX character.  The author's name
> is Mehmet \"{O}zdo\u{g}an, and my setup generates this key for the
> entry: \oxdogan06:_hypot_approac_realit.

Actually, BibTeX keys are not supposed to have a backslash in them, so that
key is invalid. If you try using it in a LaTeX document, it'll fail with an
"Undefined control sequence" error and I suspect BibTeX won't accept it
either.

Since Ebib uses bibtex.el to autogenerate keys, this is actually a bug in
bibtex.el: this key shouldn't have been generated. I'll report this bug to
the maintainer of bibtex.el so it can be fixed.

Note, however, that when you use (La)TeX commands such as \" or \u in
BibTeX fields, you should actually put them in between braces. So rather
than:

author = {Mehmet \"{O}zdo\u{g}an}

you should write:

author = {Mehmet {\"O}zdo{\u g}an}

or 

author = {Mehmet {\"{O}}zdo{\u{g}}an}

I don't remember the details of why this is the case, but it's explained in
the BibTeX doc. (A `texdoc bibtex` should bring that up.)

If you enter the name in this way, bibtex.el will create a valid key
(though it'll replace the \"O with 'oe', which AFAIK is not a Turkish
convertion) which is probably why this bug has gone unnoticed up til now.

The problem you're experiencing in Ebib is probably due to the fact that \o
is interpreted as some control sequence. Theoretically, this would be
fixable, I guess, but since slashes shouldn't appear in BibTeX keys anyway,
I'm not sure if that would be the right approach. Though it would probably
be a good thing if Ebib warned about such things so the user can fix them.

> P.S. Thanks again for ebib.  I rely on it heavily in my work now and
> find it a joy to use.

Thanks, that's very nice to hear. :-) 

Best,

Joost


-- 
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Life has its moments