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From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2017-07-07 07:57:25
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Hi Phil, I looked into your problem a bit more and what I found is this: when I open a .bib file with keywords in it which aren't in the keywords file, they are marked red. At this point, the options 'Save New Keywords For Database (K S)' and 'Save All New Keywords' are indeed greyed out. The reason is that they only apply to keywords that have been added since the .bib file was opened. If you edit an entry and add a new keyword that's not in the established list of keywords, these options should become active. If this works for you as described, then everything is working as intended, though I might need to polish the user-friendliness of it all... Note that the current entry has keywords marked in red, you can save them with `K s` (small `s`, that is). That command is not in the menu, but I could add it. (I sometimes forget to update the menu when I add new commands, because I never use it myself.) If you have an existing .bib file with lots of keywords already, it's of course cumbersome to save them all this way, because it needs to be done for each entry individually. It should be possible to come up with a function to go through the entire database and save all keywords in one go. Let me know if you need something like that and I'll see what I can do. If things don't work for you the way I described here, there's a bug somewhere and I'll need to do some more digging. Best, Joost On Thu, Jun 29 2017, Marlene and Phil Carter wrote: > Hi Joost, > > I seem have lost the reply you sent to this email. As I > remember, you asked what version of Ebib I am using, and what > happens when I type K S. > > I had some time away from Ebib, when I decided to try again, I > updated my version to the most recent version from ELPA. > > When I type K S in the index buffer, nothing happens. > > I don’t know whether this has any bearing on my problem or not, > but when I type C-c e to fire up Ebib, these messages appear in > my *Messages* buffer, before I open a bib file: > > Error during redisplay: (eval (ebib--mode-line-modified-p)) > signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > Error during redisplay: (eval (format " (%s)" > (ebib--get-dialect ebib--cur-db))) signaled (wrong-type-argument > arrayp nil) > Error during redisplay: (eval (ebib--mode-line-modified-p)) > signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > Error during redisplay: (eval (format " (%s)" > (ebib--get-dialect ebib--cur-db))) signaled (wrong-type-argument > arrayp nil) > > What is going on here? > > Thanks again. > > Phil Carter > > > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Marlene and Phil Carter <pan...@bi...> >> Subject: Keyword options greyed out >> Date: 27 June 2017 at 1:32:02 pm AEST >> To: Ebib Users List <ebi...@li...> >> >> Hi Joost, >> >> I want to set up a consistent set of keywords across several >> bib files in the same directory. I open a bib file, and I can >> enter keywords, they appear in red, which is, I suppose, the >> error face. >> >> I attempted to save the keywords, but I found that the menu >> items: >> >> Save new Keywords For Database (K S), and >> >> Save All New Keywords >> >> are greyed out. >> >> I’ve put these 2 lines in my init.el: >> >> (setq ebib-bibtex-dialect 'biblatex) >> (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt”) >> >> I thought that is allI needed. >> >> Why would these menu items be greyed out, and what can I do to >> fix the problem? >> >> Thanks for your help, >> >> Phil Carter >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! > http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2017-07-06 06:48:44
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Hi Phil, On Thu, Jun 29 2017, Marlene and Phil Carter wrote: > I seem have lost the reply you sent to this email. As I > remember, you asked what version of Ebib I am using, and what > happens when I type K S. > > I had some time away from Ebib, when I decided to try again, I > updated my version to the most recent version from ELPA. Good. :-) > When I type K S in the index buffer, nothing happens. That's strange indeed, but consistent with the fact that the option is greyed out in the menu. I haven't been able to look into this yet, I hope to be able to do so later today. > I don’t know whether this has any bearing on my problem or not, > but when I type C-c e to fire up Ebib, these messages appear in > my *Messages* buffer, before I open a bib file: > > Error during redisplay: (eval (ebib--mode-line-modified-p)) > signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > Error during redisplay: (eval (format " (%s)" > (ebib--get-dialect ebib--cur-db))) signaled (wrong-type-argument > arrayp nil) > Error during redisplay: (eval (ebib--mode-line-modified-p)) > signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) > Error during redisplay: (eval (format " (%s)" > (ebib--get-dialect ebib--cur-db))) signaled (wrong-type-argument > arrayp nil) > > What is going on here? > > Thanks again. > > Phil Carter What's going on is that I didn't consider the possibility that Ebib may be started without the option `ebib-preload-bib-files' set. That means that no files are loaded when the Ebib buffers are displayed and as a result, a few things didn't work. That should be fixed now in the latest update. I don't think this has anything to do with the keyword saving problem you have, though, so I'll have to look into that separately. Best, Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Marlene a. P. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2017-06-29 23:51:21
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Hi Joost, I seem have lost the reply you sent to this email. As I remember, you asked what version of Ebib I am using, and what happens when I type K S. I had some time away from Ebib, when I decided to try again, I updated my version to the most recent version from ELPA. When I type K S in the index buffer, nothing happens. I don’t know whether this has any bearing on my problem or not, but when I type C-c e to fire up Ebib, these messages appear in my *Messages* buffer, before I open a bib file: Error during redisplay: (eval (ebib--mode-line-modified-p)) signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) Error during redisplay: (eval (format " (%s)" (ebib--get-dialect ebib--cur-db))) signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) Error during redisplay: (eval (ebib--mode-line-modified-p)) signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) Error during redisplay: (eval (format " (%s)" (ebib--get-dialect ebib--cur-db))) signaled (wrong-type-argument arrayp nil) What is going on here? Thanks again. Phil Carter > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Marlene and Phil Carter <pan...@bi...> > Subject: Keyword options greyed out > Date: 27 June 2017 at 1:32:02 pm AEST > To: Ebib Users List <ebi...@li...> > > Hi Joost, > > I want to set up a consistent set of keywords across several bib files in the same directory. I open a bib file, and I can enter keywords, they appear in red, which is, I suppose, the error face. > > I attempted to save the keywords, but I found that the menu items: > > Save new Keywords For Database (K S), and > > Save All New Keywords > > are greyed out. > > I’ve put these 2 lines in my init.el: > > (setq ebib-bibtex-dialect 'biblatex) > (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt”) > > I thought that is allI needed. > > Why would these menu items be greyed out, and what can I do to fix the problem? > > Thanks for your help, > > Phil Carter > > > |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2017-06-27 08:12:07
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Hi Phil, What version of Ebib are you using? If I add a keyword, the options are active (though for some reason the keyword is not displayed with the error face). But I use a single keywords file, so perhaps there's some bug when using per-directory keyword files. It might be a few days before I can actually look into your problem, but what happens when you use the key shortcut `K S` to save the keywords (i.e., capital K followed by capital S)? Does at least that work? Best, Joost On Tue, Jun 27 2017, Marlene and Phil Carter wrote: > Hi Joost, > > I want to set up a consistent set of keywords across several bib > files in the same directory. I open a bib file, and I can enter > keywords, they appear in red, which is, I suppose, the error > face. > > I attempted to save the keywords, but I found that the menu > items: > > Save new Keywords For Database (K S), and > > Save All New Keywords > > are greyed out. > > I’ve put these 2 lines in my init.el: > > (setq ebib-bibtex-dialect 'biblatex) > (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt”) > > I thought that is allI needed. > > Why would these menu items be greyed out, and what can I do to > fix the problem? > > Thanks for your help, > > Phil Carter > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Marlene a. P. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2017-06-27 03:32:15
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Hi Joost, I want to set up a consistent set of keywords across several bib files in the same directory. I open a bib file, and I can enter keywords, they appear in red, which is, I suppose, the error face. I attempted to save the keywords, but I found that the menu items: Save new Keywords For Database (K S), and Save All New Keywords are greyed out. I’ve put these 2 lines in my init.el: (setq ebib-bibtex-dialect 'biblatex) (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt”) I thought that is allI needed. Why would these menu items be greyed out, and what can I do to fix the problem? Thanks for your help, Phil Carter |
From: Erich R. <er...@sn...> - 2017-03-16 09:51:41
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On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 10:32:31 +0100 Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> wrote: > But does it at least work if you set `ebib-preload-bib-files' in > your init file? Yep, I've got this to work - it loads the file automatically if I giveit the full path. I suspect the missing menus are not caused by Emacs 24 but rather something in my installation but I'll check if I can upgrade to Emacs 25 anyway. Thanks a lot for your help! Best, Erich -- Dr. Erich H. Rast, Research Fellow IFILNOVA Institute of Philosophy Av. de Berna, 26 - 4º Piso 1069-061 Lisbon, PORTUGAL http://home.snafu.de/erich/ https://fcsh-unl.academia.edu/ErichRast |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2017-03-16 09:32:41
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On Wed, Mar 15 2017, Erich Rast wrote: > On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:18:33 +0100 > Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> wrote: > > ? >> >> Not sure what might have gone wrong. There should be a >> customisation group 'ebib' (M-x customize-group RET ebib RET) >> and >> a number of subgroups. >> >> The menu only appears when Ebib is active, perhaps that's >> confusing you? > > > That's the thing, neither the menu nor the customization group > is > present, but otherwise ebib runs fine (see screenshot). Running > GNU > Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) > > When I remove & reinstall ebib, it works once and then the > menu and customization disappears again. Maybe I'll try a manual > installation from the git source later. That's really weird... I don't have easy access to Emacs 24, though, so I'd have to find some time to install it in some VM before I can test myself. But does it at least work if you set `ebib-preload-bib-files' in your init file? Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Erich R. <er...@sn...> - 2017-03-15 14:01:57
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:18:33 +0100 Joost Kremers <joo...@fa...> wrote: ? > > Not sure what might have gone wrong. There should be a > customisation group 'ebib' (M-x customize-group RET ebib RET) and > a number of subgroups. > > The menu only appears when Ebib is active, perhaps that's > confusing you? That's the thing, neither the menu nor the customization group is present, but otherwise ebib runs fine (see screenshot). Running GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) When I remove & reinstall ebib, it works once and then the menu and customization disappears again. Maybe I'll try a manual installation from the git source later. Best, Erich |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2017-03-15 13:18:46
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Hi Erich, > I've installed ebib via Melpa and it works when I load a .bib > file and > use the shortcut keys. However, it does not show any menus in > Emacs and > I cannot find any customization options. Does anyone have an > idea > what's gone wrong? Not sure what might have gone wrong. There should be a customisation group 'ebib' (M-x customize-group RET ebib RET) and a number of subgroups. The menu only appears when Ebib is active, perhaps that's confusing you? Otherwise all I can suggest is to uninstall and reinstall Ebib, and carefully check the output of the reinstallation (or post it here). > Second question (related to the first): Since I cannot find the > customization options, how do I set the preload-bib-files option > programmatically in .emacs? You can simply use `setq': (setq ebib-preload-bib-files '("/path/to/file1.bib" "/path/to/file2.bib")) Note the single quote before the list of paths and the lack of a comma between the paths. HTH Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Erich R. <er...@sn...> - 2017-03-15 10:47:17
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Hi! I've installed ebib via Melpa and it works when I load a .bib file and use the shortcut keys. However, it does not show any menus in Emacs and I cannot find any customization options. Does anyone have an idea what's gone wrong? Second question (related to the first): Since I cannot find the customization options, how do I set the preload-bib-files option programmatically in .emacs? The second question is more important to me, since I'm not using the menus very much anyway. Best, Erich -- Dr. Erich H. Rast, Research Fellow IFILNOVA Institute of Philosophy Av. de Berna, 26 - 4º Piso 1069-061 Lisbon, PORTUGAL http://home.snafu.de/erich/ https://fcsh-unl.academia.edu/ErichRast |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2017-01-10 11:22:00
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Hi Iliya, Yeah, MacOS is a bit different in that respect. I don't have access to a Mac, so I can't test my suggestion, but I believe the correct way to do it would be to use the 'open' command. If you simply specify the 'open' command in 'ebib-file-associations', then the pdf file will be opened with the default pdf reader on your system. If that is set to Skim, then Skim will be used. If you want to use Skim, even though it is not set as your default pdf reader, then you'll need the latest version of Ebib (2.9, which I pushed to Github just last night) and specify the following as the command to execute: open /Applications/Skim.app --args %s Substitute the path to Skim.app with the actual location, of course. The '%s' will be replaced with the path of the file you want to open. Note that on MacOS, /Applications/Skim.app is not actually an executable file. It's actually a directory containing all the files of the relevant program, so using that as the command to execute won't work. You can open such applications from the command line with 'open', however. Hope this helps! Best, Joost On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Iliya Lefterov wrote: > Good morning, > > I found Ebib extremely helpful and easy to configure on a > Linux machine; on a Mac platform, however I have a configuration > problem: i couldn't find a way to point to Skim as an external > PDF viewer… in Ubuntu or Mint it is very easy - evince or okular > are found immediately and they work perfectly fine. > > I know the problems with the Application folder in MacOS / > command line/path, but whatever i do with the location of > Skim.app i always get the error message, that “Specified program > for new process is a directory” > > any idea how to fix it? > > Thanks, and Happy New Year > > -I. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Iliya L. <ili...@gm...> - 2017-01-07 15:35:30
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Good morning, I found Ebib extremely helpful and easy to configure on a Linux machine; on a Mac platform, however I have a configuration problem: i couldn't find a way to point to Skim as an external PDF viewer… in Ubuntu or Mint it is very easy - evince or okular are found immediately and they work perfectly fine. I know the problems with the Application folder in MacOS / command line/path, but whatever i do with the location of Skim.app i always get the error message, that “Specified program for new process is a directory” any idea how to fix it? Thanks, and Happy New Year -I. -- Iliya Lefterov, MD, PhD Professor, University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA il...@pi... Ili...@gm... |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2015-10-05 08:16:00
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Hi Phil, Now all the values appear as they should be. The expression `(file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file)` should return nil in this case, because the value of the variable `ebib-keywords-file` doesn't have a directory part. Also, the value of ebib--keywords-files-alist has the right value: it should contain a list of lists. Each sublist has three elements: the first one is the path to the keywords file, the second one a list of keywords from that file and the third one a list of keywords added during the current session (which will be nil when you just started Ebib). So everything should be working now as advertised... I hope it does, but if not, let me know and I'll see what I can do. Best, Joost On Mo, Okt 05 2015, Phil and Marlene Carter <pan...@bi...> wrote: > Hi Joost, > > I've got some more things to throw into the Ebib ring. > > I have been trying out per-directory keywords. here is my ebibrc file: > > ; ebibrc > ; configuration file for ebib > ; see Ebib manual for details > ; created 2015-09-06, by Phil Carter > > ; change default entry type to book > ; added 2015-09-06 > (setq ebib-default-entry-type "Book") > > ; 2015-10-05 > ; single keywords file > (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt") > > I opened up a bib file with this configuration, then evaluated some of the expressions you have referred to. Here are the results: > > ebib-keywords-file > "ebib-keywords.txt" > > (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) > nil > > ebib--keywords-files-alist > (("/Users/carters/fh-phil/Book/bib/" ("pm" "minmi" "queanbeyan" "nundle" "maitland" "newcastle" "afc" "ajc" "salvos" "smith" "writing" "temperance" ...) nil)) > > The keywords file is correct. > > I am not sure whether the file-name-directory should be nil. > > The ebib--keywords-files-alist returns the correct directory for my bib file, but it has returned a list of the keywords from this file. Based on the name of the variable I would have expected a list of one or more file names. Is this the correct interpretation of this variable? > > Thanks yet again, > > Phil Carter > > > On 03/10/2015, at 8:55 AM, Phil and Marlene Carter wrote: > >> Hi Joost, >> >> What I did first up was to copy (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) into the scratch buffer, mark it, then M-x eval-region. >> >> But using C-j here is what I get: >> >> ebib-keywords-file >> "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt" >> >> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) >> "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/" >> >> which all seems to be correct. >> >> I wondered whether there was something in my init.el that was throwing ebib off, so I created a temporary init.el with nothing in it except lines related to ebib. No change. >> >> I am getting to the point here where I am feeling guilty for wasting your time. The thing that attracted me to Ebib was the keywords facility, if I can't it to work I may have to try another method. >> >> Phil >> >> >> On 02/10/2015, at 7:01 PM, Joost Kremers wrote: >> >>> Hi Phil, >>> >>>> What do you mean by what does >>>> >>>>> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) >>>> >>>> say? I tried evaluating this expression, but I didn't get any result. >>> >>> How did you evaluate it? You should have Ebib running, then go to the >>> *scratch* buffer, type (or copy&paste) the expression and press C-j. >>> >>> Better yet, before you do that, type `ebib-keywords-file` in the >>> *scratch* buffer and press C-j. >>> >>> This is the output I get when I do that: >>> >>> ebib-keywords-file >>> "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/ebib.keywords" >>> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) >>> "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/" >>> >>> Yours should be similar. >>> >>> The thing is, given that `ebib-keywords-file` seems to be set, the only >>> way `ebib--keywords-files-alist` could be nil is if the function >>> `file-name-directory` for some reason doesn't produce the correct >>> output. >>> >>>> I get the wrong type argument after pressing 'K s'. >>> >>> Yes, that makes sense. Ebib tries to push the keywords in the keywords >>> field of the current entry onto `ebib--keywords-files-alist`, but since >>> that variable is nil, it cannot do that. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Joost >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joost Kremers >>> Life has its moments >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ebib-users mailing list >>> Ebi...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Ebib-users mailing list >> Ebi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-10-04 23:38:42
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Hi Joost, I've got some more things to throw into the Ebib ring. I have been trying out per-directory keywords. here is my ebibrc file: ; ebibrc ; configuration file for ebib ; see Ebib manual for details ; created 2015-09-06, by Phil Carter ; change default entry type to book ; added 2015-09-06 (setq ebib-default-entry-type "Book") ; 2015-10-05 ; single keywords file (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt") I opened up a bib file with this configuration, then evaluated some of the expressions you have referred to. Here are the results: ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt" (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) nil ebib--keywords-files-alist (("/Users/carters/fh-phil/Book/bib/" ("pm" "minmi" "queanbeyan" "nundle" "maitland" "newcastle" "afc" "ajc" "salvos" "smith" "writing" "temperance" ...) nil)) The keywords file is correct. I am not sure whether the file-name-directory should be nil. The ebib--keywords-files-alist returns the correct directory for my bib file, but it has returned a list of the keywords from this file. Based on the name of the variable I would have expected a list of one or more file names. Is this the correct interpretation of this variable? Thanks yet again, Phil Carter On 03/10/2015, at 8:55 AM, Phil and Marlene Carter wrote: > Hi Joost, > > What I did first up was to copy (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) into the scratch buffer, mark it, then M-x eval-region. > > But using C-j here is what I get: > > ebib-keywords-file > "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt" > > (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) > "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/" > > which all seems to be correct. > > I wondered whether there was something in my init.el that was throwing ebib off, so I created a temporary init.el with nothing in it except lines related to ebib. No change. > > I am getting to the point here where I am feeling guilty for wasting your time. The thing that attracted me to Ebib was the keywords facility, if I can't it to work I may have to try another method. > > Phil > > > On 02/10/2015, at 7:01 PM, Joost Kremers wrote: > >> Hi Phil, >> >>> What do you mean by what does >>> >>>> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) >>> >>> say? I tried evaluating this expression, but I didn't get any result. >> >> How did you evaluate it? You should have Ebib running, then go to the >> *scratch* buffer, type (or copy&paste) the expression and press C-j. >> >> Better yet, before you do that, type `ebib-keywords-file` in the >> *scratch* buffer and press C-j. >> >> This is the output I get when I do that: >> >> ebib-keywords-file >> "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/ebib.keywords" >> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) >> "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/" >> >> Yours should be similar. >> >> The thing is, given that `ebib-keywords-file` seems to be set, the only >> way `ebib--keywords-files-alist` could be nil is if the function >> `file-name-directory` for some reason doesn't produce the correct >> output. >> >>> I get the wrong type argument after pressing 'K s'. >> >> Yes, that makes sense. Ebib tries to push the keywords in the keywords >> field of the current entry onto `ebib--keywords-files-alist`, but since >> that variable is nil, it cannot do that. >> >> Best, >> >> Joost >> >> >> >> -- >> Joost Kremers >> Life has its moments >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Ebib-users mailing list >> Ebi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-10-02 22:55:43
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Hi Joost, What I did first up was to copy (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) into the scratch buffer, mark it, then M-x eval-region. But using C-j here is what I get: ebib-keywords-file "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt" (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/" which all seems to be correct. I wondered whether there was something in my init.el that was throwing ebib off, so I created a temporary init.el with nothing in it except lines related to ebib. No change. I am getting to the point here where I am feeling guilty for wasting your time. The thing that attracted me to Ebib was the keywords facility, if I can't it to work I may have to try another method. Phil On 02/10/2015, at 7:01 PM, Joost Kremers wrote: > Hi Phil, > >> What do you mean by what does >> >>> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) >> >> say? I tried evaluating this expression, but I didn't get any result. > > How did you evaluate it? You should have Ebib running, then go to the > *scratch* buffer, type (or copy&paste) the expression and press C-j. > > Better yet, before you do that, type `ebib-keywords-file` in the > *scratch* buffer and press C-j. > > This is the output I get when I do that: > > ebib-keywords-file > "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/ebib.keywords" > (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) > "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/" > > Yours should be similar. > > The thing is, given that `ebib-keywords-file` seems to be set, the only > way `ebib--keywords-files-alist` could be nil is if the function > `file-name-directory` for some reason doesn't produce the correct > output. > >> I get the wrong type argument after pressing 'K s'. > > Yes, that makes sense. Ebib tries to push the keywords in the keywords > field of the current entry onto `ebib--keywords-files-alist`, but since > that variable is nil, it cannot do that. > > Best, > > Joost > > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2015-10-02 09:01:56
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Hi Phil, > What do you mean by what does > >> (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) > > say? I tried evaluating this expression, but I didn't get any result. How did you evaluate it? You should have Ebib running, then go to the *scratch* buffer, type (or copy&paste) the expression and press C-j. Better yet, before you do that, type `ebib-keywords-file` in the *scratch* buffer and press C-j. This is the output I get when I do that: ebib-keywords-file "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/ebib.keywords" (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) "~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/" Yours should be similar. The thing is, given that `ebib-keywords-file` seems to be set, the only way `ebib--keywords-files-alist` could be nil is if the function `file-name-directory` for some reason doesn't produce the correct output. > I get the wrong type argument after pressing 'K s'. Yes, that makes sense. Ebib tries to push the keywords in the keywords field of the current entry onto `ebib--keywords-files-alist`, but since that variable is nil, it cannot do that. Best, Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-10-02 08:02:01
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Hi again Joost, What do you mean by what does > (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) say? I tried evaluating this expression, but I didn't get any result. I get the wrong type argument after pressing 'K s'. Phil Carter On 29/09/2015, at 4:30 AM, Joost Kremers wrote: > Hi Phil, > >> Here is a copy of the *Ebib-log* buffer with a bib file loaded: >> >> Ebib log messages >> >> (Press C-v or SPACE to scroll down, M-v or `b' to scroll up, `q' to quit.) >> >> 28 Sep 2015, 20:42:05: Opening file ~/fh-phil/Book/bib/othersources.bib >> 62 entries, 1 @STRINGs and no @PREAMBLE found in file. >> Using general keyword list. >> >> No mention of a keyword file, just a keyword list. Should a file name >> appear here? The keywords appear in red; so it seems that Ebib is not >> finding either a keywords list or a keywords file. > > Yes, if Ebib is using a keywords file, it should say something like this: > > ,---- > | 28 Sep 2015, 19:39:16: Opening file /home/joost/Copy/Work/Bibtex/Bibliography.bib > | 1124 entries, 23 @STRINGs and a @PREAMBLE found in file. > | Using keywords from ~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/ebib.keywords. > `---- > > But if `ebib--keywords-file-alist` is empty, which it is in your case, > then Ebib uses the keywords stored in `ebib-keywords-list`, which is > what Ebib is saying in your case. > > The thing that I don't understand is that the only way > `ebib--keywords-files-alist` could be nil is when `ebib-keywords-file` > is not set. What does > > (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) > > say? > >> If I press K (to try to save the keywords) I get this message in the >> mini-buffer: Wrong type argument: consp, nil. > > Do you get that after just pressing `K`, or after pressing `K s`? > > Best, > > Joost > > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2015-09-28 18:30:34
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Hi Phil, > Here is a copy of the *Ebib-log* buffer with a bib file loaded: > > Ebib log messages > > (Press C-v or SPACE to scroll down, M-v or `b' to scroll up, `q' to quit.) > > 28 Sep 2015, 20:42:05: Opening file ~/fh-phil/Book/bib/othersources.bib > 62 entries, 1 @STRINGs and no @PREAMBLE found in file. > Using general keyword list. > > No mention of a keyword file, just a keyword list. Should a file name > appear here? The keywords appear in red; so it seems that Ebib is not > finding either a keywords list or a keywords file. Yes, if Ebib is using a keywords file, it should say something like this: ,---- | 28 Sep 2015, 19:39:16: Opening file /home/joost/Copy/Work/Bibtex/Bibliography.bib | 1124 entries, 23 @STRINGs and a @PREAMBLE found in file. | Using keywords from ~/Copy/Work/Bibtex/ebib.keywords. `---- But if `ebib--keywords-file-alist` is empty, which it is in your case, then Ebib uses the keywords stored in `ebib-keywords-list`, which is what Ebib is saying in your case. The thing that I don't understand is that the only way `ebib--keywords-files-alist` could be nil is when `ebib-keywords-file` is not set. What does (file-name-directory ebib-keywords-file) say? > If I press K (to try to save the keywords) I get this message in the > mini-buffer: Wrong type argument: consp, nil. Do you get that after just pressing `K`, or after pressing `K s`? Best, Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-09-28 10:56:32
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Hi Joost, Here is a copy of the *Ebib-log* buffer with a bib file loaded: Ebib log messages (Press C-v or SPACE to scroll down, M-v or `b' to scroll up, `q' to quit.) 28 Sep 2015, 20:42:05: Opening file ~/fh-phil/Book/bib/othersources.bib 62 entries, 1 @STRINGs and no @PREAMBLE found in file. Using general keyword list. No mention of a keyword file, just a keyword list. Should a file name appear here? The keywords appear in red; so it seems that Ebib is not finding either a keywords list or a keywords file. If I press K (to try to save the keywords) I get this message in the mini-buffer: Wrong type argument: consp, nil. Phil On 28/09/2015, at 8:12 AM, Joost Kremers wrote: > Hi Phil, > > On Sa, Sep 26 2015, Phil and Marlene Carter <pan...@bi...> wrote: >> I checked the values of the variables you suggested. Here is what C-h v reported: >> >> ebib-keywords-file: Its value is "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt" >> >> Seems OK. >> >> ebib--keywords-files-alist: Its value is nil. >> >> I suspect this value shouldn't be nil. > > No, it shouldn't be nil. If you have a .bib file loaded, it should at > the very least contain the path to your .emacs.d directory. > > I just realised, Ebib logs the file it's using for keywords every time a > .bib file is opened. Could you check Ebib's log buffer (press 'l' in the > index buffer) and see which keywords file Ebib reports? > >> I don't remember whether I told you before, but I am running Emacs >> 24.4.1 on as Mac with OS X 10.7.5. I seem to remember that there was a >> substantial step in going from Emacs 23 to Emacs 24. Could this have >> some bearing on the problem? > > I don't think so. Ebib should work on Emacs 24.4, and on OS X. But since > I have no idea what could be going wrong here, anything's possible... > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2015-09-27 22:12:27
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Hi Phil, On Sa, Sep 26 2015, Phil and Marlene Carter <pan...@bi...> wrote: > I checked the values of the variables you suggested. Here is what C-h v reported: > > ebib-keywords-file: Its value is "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt" > > Seems OK. > > ebib--keywords-files-alist: Its value is nil. > > I suspect this value shouldn't be nil. No, it shouldn't be nil. If you have a .bib file loaded, it should at the very least contain the path to your .emacs.d directory. I just realised, Ebib logs the file it's using for keywords every time a .bib file is opened. Could you check Ebib's log buffer (press 'l' in the index buffer) and see which keywords file Ebib reports? > I don't remember whether I told you before, but I am running Emacs > 24.4.1 on as Mac with OS X 10.7.5. I seem to remember that there was a > substantial step in going from Emacs 23 to Emacs 24. Could this have > some bearing on the problem? I don't think so. Ebib should work on Emacs 24.4, and on OS X. But since I have no idea what could be going wrong here, anything's possible... -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-09-26 07:17:46
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Hi Joost, I checked the values of the variables you suggested. Here is what C-h v reported: ebib-keywords-file: Its value is "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt" Seems OK. ebib--keywords-files-alist: Its value is nil. I suspect this value shouldn't be nil. I don't remember whether I told you before, but I am running Emacs 24.4.1 on as Mac with OS X 10.7.5. I seem to remember that there was a substantial step in going from Emacs 23 to Emacs 24. Could this have some bearing on the problem? Thanks again for your patience. Phil > On 16/09/2015, at 5:55 PM, Joost Kremers wrote: > Hi Phil, > > Your case is getting more and more puzzling... > >> I have come to the conclusion that Ebib doesn't like remote files. I >> have attached the latest version of my ebibrc file. I said before that >> I use a laptop and a desktop. My .emacs.d directory is stored on >> Dropbox, this directory is symlinked to each computer, This seems to >> work fine for Emacs customisation; each computer has an identical >> version of Emacs. > > Note that the files in your Dropbox folder aren't really remote files: > they are stored on your local disk and kept in sync with the Dropbox > server. > > But what's puzzling to me is that my setup seems to be the same as > yours. My .emacs.d is a symlink to a folder inside my Dropbox folder > (~/Dropbox/Settings/emacs.d to be exact). > > I've also switched over to per-directory keywords files, just for > testing, and so far haven't run into any trouble. When I copy a .bib > file to temporary directory and open it in Ebib, all the keywords are > shown in red as expected, and when I hit `K s` on an entry, the keywords > are stored and saved. > > >> Rather than use a per-directory keywords file I have been testing a >> single keywords file. But Ebib doesn't seem not be able to find the >> ebib-keywords.txt file if it is stored in a symlinked .emacs.d >> directory. Local files on each computer seem to work fine, but when I >> moved it over to the .emacs.d directory, all the keywords appear in >> red, which seems to me to indicate that the keywords list has not been >> accessed. > > Yes, it does... Like I said, your case is very puzzling... Note that > changing the setting `ebib-keywords-file` may require a complete restart > of Emacs (not just Ebib) to take effect. (I'm not entirely sure why that > is the case, something to do with the way Emacs handles customisable > variables, I think.) > > Could you check the value of the variables `ebib-keywords-file` and > `ebib--keywords-files-alist` (note the double dash in the latter) while > Ebib is running? The easiest way would be to use the *scratch* buffer > (provided you haven't customised its major mode). So start Ebib and > lower it again, then switch to the *scratch* buffer and type the name of > the variable followed by `C-j`. Then the variable's value should appear > on the next line. (If it's very long, its value will be collapsed, which > is indicated with three dots near the end. You can put the cursor on it > and hit RETRUN to make it visible). > >> I have another observation. I had a bib file, the first line of which >> was @comment. This file didn't open correctly, but when I edited the >> @comment out, all was well. > > Could you send me the .bib file with the @comment, or at least the > @comment itself? There shouldn't be any problem opening a file with a > comment on the first line. > > Best, > > Joost > > > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2015-09-16 07:55:20
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Hi Phil, Your case is getting more and more puzzling... > I have come to the conclusion that Ebib doesn't like remote files. I > have attached the latest version of my ebibrc file. I said before that > I use a laptop and a desktop. My .emacs.d directory is stored on > Dropbox, this directory is symlinked to each computer, This seems to > work fine for Emacs customisation; each computer has an identical > version of Emacs. Note that the files in your Dropbox folder aren't really remote files: they are stored on your local disk and kept in sync with the Dropbox server. But what's puzzling to me is that my setup seems to be the same as yours. My .emacs.d is a symlink to a folder inside my Dropbox folder (~/Dropbox/Settings/emacs.d to be exact). I've also switched over to per-directory keywords files, just for testing, and so far haven't run into any trouble. When I copy a .bib file to temporary directory and open it in Ebib, all the keywords are shown in red as expected, and when I hit `K s` on an entry, the keywords are stored and saved. > Rather than use a per-directory keywords file I have been testing a > single keywords file. But Ebib doesn't seem not be able to find the > ebib-keywords.txt file if it is stored in a symlinked .emacs.d > directory. Local files on each computer seem to work fine, but when I > moved it over to the .emacs.d directory, all the keywords appear in > red, which seems to me to indicate that the keywords list has not been > accessed. Yes, it does... Like I said, your case is very puzzling... Note that changing the setting `ebib-keywords-file` may require a complete restart of Emacs (not just Ebib) to take effect. (I'm not entirely sure why that is the case, something to do with the way Emacs handles customisable variables, I think.) Could you check the value of the variables `ebib-keywords-file` and `ebib--keywords-files-alist` (note the double dash in the latter) while Ebib is running? The easiest way would be to use the *scratch* buffer (provided you haven't customised its major mode). So start Ebib and lower it again, then switch to the *scratch* buffer and type the name of the variable followed by `C-j`. Then the variable's value should appear on the next line. (If it's very long, its value will be collapsed, which is indicated with three dots near the end. You can put the cursor on it and hit RETRUN to make it visible). > I have another observation. I had a bib file, the first line of which > was @comment. This file didn't open correctly, but when I edited the > @comment out, all was well. Could you send me the .bib file with the @comment, or at least the @comment itself? There shouldn't be any problem opening a file with a comment on the first line. Best, Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-09-16 00:24:39
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Hi Joost, I have come to the conclusion that Ebib doesn't like remote files. I have attached the latest version of my ebibrc file. I said before that I use a laptop and a desktop. My .emacs.d directory is stored on Dropbox, this directory is symlinked to each computer, This seems to work fine for Emacs customisation; each computer has an identical version of Emacs. Rather than use a per-directory keywords file I have been testing a single keywords file. But Ebib doesn't seem not be able to find the ebib-keywords.txt file if it is stored in a symlinked .emacs.d directory. Local files on each computer seem to work fine, but when I moved it over to the .emacs.d directory, all the keywords appear in red, which seems to me to indicate that the keywords list has not been accessed. Have I explained this problem clearly enough? I would appreciate some ideas for fixing it. ; ebibrc ; configuration file for ebib ; see Ebib manual for details ; created 2015-09-06, by Phil Carter ; change default entry type to book ; added 2015-09-06 (setq ebib-default-entry-type "Book") ; identify keyword file for each computer ; keywords list for desktop ; 2015-09-15 (setq ebib-keywords-file "/Users/carters/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt") ; keywords list for laptop ; (setq ebib-keywords-file "/Users/philc/.emacs.d/ebib-keywords.txt") I have another observation. I had a bib file, the first line of which was @comment. This file didn't open correctly, but when I edited the @comment out, all was well. Thanks again for your help. Phil On 10/09/2015, at 8:06 PM, Joost Kremers wrote: > Hi Phil, > >> Sorry to keep emailing with problems. > > No problem! > >> If I open a bib file with no keywords, and attempt to add a key word, >> the keyword appears in red. > > Mmm. I'd expect it not to appear in red, because if you add a keyword, > it should be added to the list of stored keywords... > >> If I type K, trying to save the keyword, I >> get a message in the mini-buffer that K is undefined. I don't get to >> type s. > > Could it be that you're typing 'K' in the entry buffer? It's only bound > in the index buffer, so you need to leave the entry buffer first. > >> I wondered whether setting ebib-keywords-use-only-file to a non-nil >> value might fix the problem, but it didn't. > > No, that shouldn't make a difference. > >> I tried creating the file ebib-keywords.txt, with 1 or 2 entries, outside of Ebib, no luck with that either. >> >> Somehow, the file ebib-keywords.txt is not being recognised. > > I'm afraid I'm going to have to test things myself. I use a single > keyword file, so I don't have much experience with per-directory keyword > files. I'll let you know if I find something. > > Best, > > Joost > > > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |
From: Joost K. <joo...@fa...> - 2015-09-10 10:07:36
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Hi Phil, > Sorry to keep emailing with problems. No problem! > If I open a bib file with no keywords, and attempt to add a key word, > the keyword appears in red. Mmm. I'd expect it not to appear in red, because if you add a keyword, it should be added to the list of stored keywords... > If I type K, trying to save the keyword, I > get a message in the mini-buffer that K is undefined. I don't get to > type s. Could it be that you're typing 'K' in the entry buffer? It's only bound in the index buffer, so you need to leave the entry buffer first. > I wondered whether setting ebib-keywords-use-only-file to a non-nil > value might fix the problem, but it didn't. No, that shouldn't make a difference. > I tried creating the file ebib-keywords.txt, with 1 or 2 entries, outside of Ebib, no luck with that either. > > Somehow, the file ebib-keywords.txt is not being recognised. I'm afraid I'm going to have to test things myself. I use a single keyword file, so I don't have much experience with per-directory keyword files. I'll let you know if I find something. Best, Joost -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments |
From: Phil a. M. C. <pan...@bi...> - 2015-09-10 08:21:56
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Hi Joost, Sorry to keep emailing with problems. I'm sorry to say that I am still having trouble with ebibrc and the keywords file. If I open a bib file with no keywords, and attempt to add a key word, the keyword appears in red. If I type K, trying to save the keyword, I get a message in the mini-buffer that K is undefined. I don't get to type s. I wondered whether setting ebib-keywords-use-only-file to a non-nil value might fix the problem, but it didn't. I tried creating the file ebib-keywords.txt, with 1 or 2 entries, outside of Ebib, no luck with that either. Somehow, the file ebib-keywords.txt is not being recognised. Thanks for the tip about "Book", that has fixed that problem. Here is the latest version of my ebibrc file: ; ebibrc ; configuration file for ebib ; see Ebib manual for details ; created 2015-09-06, by Phil Carter ; change default entry type to book ; added 2015-09-06 (setq ebib-default-entry-type "Book") ; use only keywords file ; added 2015-09-10 (setq ebib-keywords-use-only-file t) ; set up keywords file ; select per-directory keywords list ; added 2015-09-08 (setq ebib-keywords-file "ebib-keywords.txt") Thanks again, Phil On 09/09/2015, at 9:15 PM, Joost Kremers wrote: > Hi Phil, > >> I have been playing with keywords, I have run into another problem. >> >> I use Emacs on a laptop and a desktop; I have a single init.el file, >> synchronised through Dropbox so that I always have identical versions >> of Emacs. I want to set up per-directory lists; I wanted to do this >> with the ebibrc file, rather than customising each version of Emacs, >> so that they always stay the same. > > If you have the same version of Emacs (and of any packages you have > installed) on all machines, you can also synchronise your Custom > settings. (Unless, of course, you want/need different settings for each > machine...) > >> I am unclear as to what commands I need to put into ebibrc to do this. >> Reading the documentation I got the impression the all I had to do was >> to name a file (ebib-keywords.txt, no path), and all would be well. > > Yes, that should do the trick. If there is no directory part in the file > name in `ebib-keywords-file`, Ebib should create a separate keywords > file in each directory. > > Note, however, that Ebib only creates such a file if new keywords are > added in the current session. Keywords that are already in the .bib file > are not automatically saved to the keywords file. Perhaps that is > causing your problem? > > Ebib should display keywords that are not in the database's keywords > file in red (or whatever you've customised the `error` face to). If you > see such keywords, you can add them to the file by pressing `K s`. They > should then change to your normal foreground color and when you close > the database, they'll be saved. The file should automatically be created > if it doesn't exist yet. > > If things don't work this way for you, please let me know and I'll try > and figure out what goes wrong. > >> ; ebibrc >> ; configuration file for ebib >> ; see Ebib manual for details >> ; created 2015-09-06, by Phil Carter >> >> ; change default entry type to book >> ; added 2015-09-06 >> (setq ebib-default-entry-type 'Book) > > Does this work? The value of `ebib-default-entry-type` should be a > string, so: > > (setq ebib-default-entry-type "Book") > > should be safer. (That is, setting `ebib-default-entry-type` to a symbol > is not guaranteed to continue to work when I update Ebib.) > > Best, > > Joost > > > > > -- > Joost Kremers > Life has its moments > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor Your Dynamic Infrastructure at Any Scale With Datadog! > Get real-time metrics from all of your servers, apps and tools > in one place. > SourceForge users - Click here to start your Free Trial of Datadog now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=241902991&iu=/4140 > _______________________________________________ > Ebib-users mailing list > Ebi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ebib-users > |