dynapi-dev — List related to the current DynAPI Core development

[Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI editor screenshot

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

Maybe not interesting for everyone here, but I'm so pleased with it that I'm
mailing this anyway :-)

I just uploaded a screenshot of my Oversight DynAPI editor. At this point I
have the debugger working (as mailed a few weeks ago) but now I also have
coded the first steps for OverSight:Wise, the wysiwyg editor. I can now
create Layers, and insert child layers (also child layers into child-layers,
etc).

Layers can be resized, and moved.  The scripter is showing some small bugs,
but nothing really big.

Once I have some releaseable code I'll let you know, for now any ideas are
welcome on DynBuilder like applications (probably also interesting for the
few other persons working on such tools)

screenshot and small info at: http://www.dynamic-core.net

cya,

Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[Thomas H. <t.h...@fi...>]

The official Name is Nestcape 5.0! Look at navigator.appName and
navigator.appVersion, its the same on Netscape 6 and Mozilla - so 
there is no need to change it. 

Thomas.

Dan Steinman wrote:
> 
> Really we should probably change it to "ns6" or "moz".  I put "ns5" in there long ago thinking that I'd be called Navigator 5.0.
> 
> Dan

Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

I've updated cvs with ns6.  You should now use that instead of ns5.

-- 
// Robert Rainwater

On 2/4/2001, 12:54:18 AM EST, Dan wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5":

> Really we should probably change it to "ns6" or "moz".  I put "ns5" in there long ago thinking that I'd be called Navigator 5.0.

> Dan

> On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 01:09:23PM -0800, ni...@pr... wrote:
>> you might wanna take a look to browser.js then u'll see we use is.ns5 for netscape 6 like is.ns for  netscape in general or is.ie for internet explorer
>> 
>> Y
>> 
>> > 
>> > Whats ns5?
>> > 
>> > Sorry for the ignorance but I thought there was 4.7 and then 6.
>> > 8an
>> > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[Michael Br. <mb...@st...>]

one drawback i just found out: this breaks the contextmenu, it doesn't
appear anymore. seems that ns5 (or ns6, or moz or however) relies on
javascript for it.


> From: Michael B=FCrge <mb...@st...>
> Reply-To: dyn...@li...
> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 21:01:04 +0100
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5
>=20
> in ns5 there has long been the problem that the events got fired multiple
> times, this is because the event bubbles up the DOM, firing for all
> parent-layers and the document as well. the target property of the event-=
obj
> contains the element which originally fired it, thats why the same
> eventListener ist called multiple times.
> but: ns5's event-obj has a cancelBubble property, so by making a small
> change to DynLayer.prototype.EventMethod, the event is fired only once (l=
ike
> it shoud).
>=20
> DynLayer.prototype.EventMethod =3D function(e) {
> var dyndoc=3Dthis.lyrobj.dyndoc;
> if (is.ie) {
> [ ...]  =20
> }
> else if (is.ns5) {
> e.cancelBubble =3D true;
> }
> [ ... ]
> };
>=20
>=20
> tested in mozilla 0.7 and NN6 on a mac.
>=20
> --
> // Michael Buerge
>=20
>=20
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>=20

[Dynapi-Dev] content-size in ns5 and ie5/Mac

[Michael Br. <mb...@st...>]

i think the following may be interesting...

ns5:
i found that elm.scrollWidth and elm.scrollHeight in ns5 contain the correct
values if elm.style.width/height is set to 'auto', so what i did in
Dynlayer.prototype.getContentWidth() is setting the elm.style.width to
'auto', retrive the scrollWidth, and then changing the value of
elm.style.width again to the original value. this causes a short flickering,
because when set to 'auto', ns5 adjust the size of the layer to the
contentSize, but at least i get the correct size of the content.


ie5/mac:
this browser needs some time to update the scrollWidth/Height-values, so i
store the old values of the contentSize and then call a function that loops
with a timeout until the values have changed (or a maximum of retries is
reached). the 'onload'-event isn't invoked until that moment. this means
that everything that needs the size of the content has to wait for the
'onload'-event to be invoked.


since the setHTML() method of a DynLayer is the only place where the size of
the content can be changed there's no need for accessing the browsers object
every time the contentsize is needed, so i introduced two new properties to
the DynLayer: contentW and contentH (they are updated every time setHTML()
is called)

i made a demonstration page available on the web:
http://n.ethz.ch/student/mibuerge/dynapi/examples/contentsize.htm
the behaviour in any other browsers than mentioned shouldn't have changed.

the pieces of code i changed in "dynlayer.js":

/* ... */

DynLayer.prototype.toString=function () {
    return 
(this.elm)?'DynAPI.getDocument("'+this.dyndoc.id+'").all["'+this.id+'"]':'Dy
nLayer.unassigned["'+this.id+'"]';
};
// replaced check for this.created with this.elm


/* ... */

DynLayer.prototype.setHTML=function(html,noevt) {
    this.html=html?html:'';
    if (this.css==null) return;
    this.invokeEvent("beforeload");
    
    // saving the actual size of the content
    if (is.ie5 && is.platform == 'mac') {
        this.lastContentW = this.contentW || this.getContentWidth();
        this.lastContentH = this.contentH || this.getContentHeight();
    }
    
    this.elm.innerHTML=html;
    if (is.ns4) {
        this.doc.open();
        this.doc.write(html);
        this.doc.close();
            for (var i in this.doc.images) this.doc.images[i].lyrobj=this;
            for (i=0;i<this.doc.links.length;i++)
this.doc.links[i].lyrobj=this;
    }
    else if (is.ns5) {
        while (this.elm.hasChildNodes())
this.elm.removeChild(this.elm.firstChild);
        var r=this.elm.ownerDocument.createRange();
        r.selectNodeContents(this.elm);
        r.collapse(true);
        var df=r.createContextualFragment(html);
        this.elm.appendChild(df);
            for (var i in this.doc.images)
this.doc.images[i].lyrobj=this.elm;
    }
    else {    
        //for (var i in this.elm.all.tags("img"))
this.elm.all.tags("img")[i].lyrobj=this;
    }
    this.updateContentSizeValues(noevt)
};

/* ... */

DynLayer.prototype.getContentWidth=function() {
    if (this.elm==null) return 0;
    else if (is.ns4) return this.doc.width;
    else if (is.ns5) {
        this.elm.style.width = "auto";  // makes the offsetWidth available
        var w = this.elm.offsetWidth;
        this.elm.style.width = this.w;  // restore the width
        return w;
    }
    else if (is.ie) return parseInt(this.elm.scrollWidth);
    else return 0;
};
DynLayer.prototype.getContentHeight=function() {
    if (this.elm==null) return 0;
    else if (is.ns4) return this.doc.height;
    else if (is.ns5) {
        this.elm.style.height = "auto";
        var h = this.elm.offsetHeight;
        this.elm.style.height = this.h;
        return h;
    }
    else if (is.ie) return parseInt(this.elm.scrollHeight);
    else return 0;
};
DynLayer.prototype.updateContentSizeValues = function(noevt) {
    if (is.ie5 && is.platform == 'mac') {
    this.chkTimer = setTimeout(this +
'.checkForContentSizeUpdate(1,'+!(noevt==false)+')',0);
    return;
    }

    this.contentW = this.getContentWidth();
    this.contentH = this.getContentHeight();
    if (noevt!=false) this.invokeEvent('load');
}

DynLayer.prototype.checkForContentSizeUpdate = function(retry,noevt) {
    var w = this.getContentWidth();
    var h = this.getContentHeight();
    // check for changed values
    if (this.lastContentW != w || this.lastContentH != h) {
    this.lastContentW = this.lastContentH = null;
    this.contentW = w;
    this.contentH = h;
    if (noevt!=false) this.invokeEvent('load');
    }
    else if (retry < DynLayer.maxRetries) {
    clearTimeout(this.chkTimer)
    setTimeout(this +'.check4ContentSizeUpdate(' +(retry+1)
+','+!(noevt==false)+')',30);
    }
    else if (noevt!=false) this.invokeEvent('load');

}
DynLayer.maxRetries = 5;

/* ... */

the whole "dynapi.js"-file is included as an attachement.

i hope this will lead to some discussion...

--
// Michael Buerge

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[Dan S. <dy...@fu...>]

Really we should probably change it to "ns6" or "moz".  I put "ns5" in there long ago thinking that I'd be called Navigator 5.0.

Dan

On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 01:09:23PM -0800, ni...@pr... wrote:
> you might wanna take a look to browser.js then u'll see we use is.ns5 for netscape 6 like is.ns for  netscape in general or is.ie for internet explorer
> 
> Y
> 
> > 
> > Whats ns5?
> > 
> > Sorry for the ignorance but I thought there was 4.7 and then 6.
> > 8an
> > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] resize in frames on IE

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

On 2/3/2001, 4:56:01 PM EST, Al wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] resize in frames on IE":

> I was fooling around with the scrollpane example. I see that it fails on
> a resize in NS4, but I have seen emails about  the NS4 resize bug coming
> back with the precreate system.

> I do not get the same error in IE5.0, but if I run the scrollpane
> example in a frame and resize I get an "'undefined' is not an object"
> error in dynapi.js:
>  resizeHandler : function() {
>   var doc = this.dyndoc;
>   var w = doc.getWidth();

> In other words, this.dyndoc is not defined.

If you look in dyndocument.js you will see where dyndoc is set in the
constructor - frame.dyndoc = this. I would image this is where the
problem arises when the resize event is not being called on "frame" so
this.dyndoc does not exists. I will need to do further testing
however.

-- 
// Robert Rainwater

[Dynapi-Dev] resize in frames on IE

[Al B. <by...@lo...>]

I was fooling around with the scrollpane example. I see that it fails on
a resize in NS4, but I have seen emails about  the NS4 resize bug coming
back with the precreate system.

I do not get the same error in IE5.0, but if I run the scrollpane
example in a frame and resize I get an "'undefined' is not an object"
error in dynapi.js:
 resizeHandler : function() {
  var doc = this.dyndoc;
  var w = doc.getWidth();

In other words, this.dyndoc is not defined.

I would like to help, but I know so little. I just put the whole
scrollpane example in an inner frame; I did not try to do something as
in the tutorial where the inner frame dyndocument was addressed from a
parent frame. Are there techniques that need to be used when working in
frames?


--
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Staunton, VA 24401
540.213.0500
www.localsquare.com
by...@lo...

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[<ni...@pr...>]

you might wanna take a look to browser.js then u'll see we use is.ns5 for netscape 6 like is.ns for  netscape in general or is.ie for internet explorer

Y

> 
> Whats ns5?
> 
> Sorry for the ignorance but I thought there was 4.7 and then 6.
> 8an
> 
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[Eytan H. <ey...@tr...>]

Whats ns5?

Sorry for the ignorance but I thought there was 4.7 and then 6.
8an

[Dynapi-Dev] mulfiple events in ns5

[Michael Br. <mb...@st...>]

in ns5 there has long been the problem that the events got fired multiple
times, this is because the event bubbles up the DOM, firing for all
parent-layers and the document as well. the target property of the event-obj
contains the element which originally fired it, thats why the same
eventListener ist called multiple times.
but: ns5's event-obj has a cancelBubble property, so by making a small
change to DynLayer.prototype.EventMethod, the event is fired only once (like
it shoud).

DynLayer.prototype.EventMethod = function(e) {
    var dyndoc=this.lyrobj.dyndoc;
    if (is.ie) {
        [ ...]   
    }
    else if (is.ns5) {
        e.cancelBubble = true;
    }
    [ ... ]
};


tested in mozilla 0.7 and NN6 on a mac.

--
// Michael Buerge

[Dynapi-Dev] MSDN dozen tips to improve DHTML performance

[Eytan H. <ey...@tr...>]

Maybe we can use some of these
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/Author/perf/dhtmlperf.asp

[Dynapi-Dev] Auto-sizing for layers in Mozilla/NS6

[Joachim L. <lu...@ho...>]

As many of you've been wanting the auto-sizing of layers to work in Mozilla/NS6 maybe I should share what I found worked for me.

First of all, I don't use DynAPI myself which is why I haven't supplied a patch. Somewhere around last May/June I took a look at the code, and some of the ideas (at that time at least) I didn't agree with. So I started coding my own variant, but I keep following the discussions here though.

Okay, that said. Now over to what I found worked on my setup. From what I understand the code below will have to be modified to cope with pre-creation code (or maybe disable the pre-creation if the sizes aren't known?).


DynLayer.prototype.createElement = function() {

    <...>

    if(this.html != "") {
        this.setHTML(this.html,false);
        // Mozilla M18 (and most probably Netscape 6) bug: doesn't update the offsetXxxx
        // values directly. I believe this is delayed to the next update cycle, which happens
        // when the JavaScript thread is idle.
        // A suggested workaround is to call blur() ... focus() but testing revealed that
        // doesn't fix the problem.
        // http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56810
        // http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65548
        if(is.mozilla) {
            var code = "{var o="+this+";";
            if(this.w == null)
                code += "o.w=o.getContentWidth();";
            if(this.h == null)
                code += "o.h=o.getContentHeight();";
            code += "o.setSize(o.w,o.h);}";
            setTimeout(code, 0);
        }
        else {
            if(this.w == null)
                this.w = this.getContentWidth();
            if(this.h == null)
                this.h = this.getContentHeight();
            this.setSize(this.w,this.h);
        }
    }
    else
        if(this.w || this.h)
            this.setSize(this.w,this.h);

    <...>

    for(var i=0; i<this.children.length; i++)
        this.children[i].createElement();

    // Doing the this.html!="" test too would make the oncreate fire in random order for
    // children.
    // If we didn't have any html to print but a child does, this object would fire the event
    // before the child does.
    if(is.mozilla /*&& this.html!=""*/)
        setTimeout(this+'.fireEvent("create")', 0);
    else
        this.fireEvent("create");
}


I hope this will help getting auto-sizing to work.

/Lunna

[Dynapi-Dev] [Bug #130886] opera5.0 is not supported

[<no...@so...>]

Bug #130886, was updated on 2001-Feb-02 09:35
Here is a current snapshot of the bug.

Project: DynAPI 2
Category: Browser-Specific Issue
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Bug Group: Feature Request
Priority: 5
Submitted by: nobody
Assigned to : nobody
Summary: opera5.0 is not supported

Details: DynAPI2 is very good, but opera is not supported.

For detailed info, follow this link:
http://sourceforge.net/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=130886&group_id=5757

[Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage

[Scott B. <sco...@se...>]

Thanks to all those who answered, the results were of great help.

Still hunting elusive X% though, where  4 < X < 4.08.

Thanks again,
Scott

[Dynapi-Dev] Foreground color in dyndayer ???

[Pieter V. W. <pie...@1e...>]

Hello,

Is there a way to set the foreGround color in a dyn layer ?
(not found in the docs for DYNLAYER)

I tried using 
 var style=new Object
 style.color = "white"
 myLayer.setStyle(style)

but that didnt do it.


Cheers,
Pieter.

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 5.5 Bug... Mixed Mode Security alert (SSL problem)

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

this also means you should use gif images on empty layers to make sure they
catch events (and will cause problems with other widgets as well)

in you copy of the dynapi you might want to change that line to something
like this:

else if (is.ie55 && dlyr.bgImage==null && dlyr.html==null)
dlyr.setBgImage('empty.gif');

where empty.gif is a simple transparent gif image.. this will make sure all
widgets and other code will keep working.

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Michael Ellis
> Verzonden: donderdag 1 februari 2001 20:32
> Aan: 'dyn...@li...'
> Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Dev] IE 5.5 Bug... Mixed Mode Security alert (SSL
> problem)
>
>
> We are currently using the latest CVS files.
>
> In IE 5.5 only, when using SSL, we came across a browser bug.
> If we pass the
> param 'javascript:null' in line 73 of DynLayer we get a mixed
> mode security
> alert on every screen. This screen cannot be set to 'Don't
> show me again'. I
> believe this line is a patch someone entered about two weeks
> ago. We have
> temporarily fixed this by commenting out the parameter.
>
> Offending line: #72
>    else if (is.ie55 && dlyr.bgImage==null && dlyr.html==null)
> dlyr.setBgImage('javascript:null');
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael Ellis
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage Stats

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Source: Thecounter

They have a significant base of sites they draw from.  Anyone who signs up
for their free stats service both "gets and gives".  Adds to the global
stats pool and gets individual and global information back.

And yes..., the scope is much broader and far more diverse then the "pud
pullers" over at WestSideStory.

DS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Nuzzolillo" <ja...@aa...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage Stats


> check out the right-hand side of this page guys/gals:
> http://www.echoecho.com/
>
> the person who gave me this, told me the following of the stats:
> Stats derived from:
> +500,000,000 hits at
> +500,000 different sites
> during December, 2000
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] I forgot

[Richard B. <ma...@ri...>]

>People like Microsoft on the
> Mac side of things,
I'm sure MS *could* have a working browser for Mac out within a month, but
if Mac users ceased to get "sorry, we don't support this operating system
for online sales" or such error messages, it might become popular...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cameron Hart" <ca...@bi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] I forgot


> Perhaps some of the less mainstream browser vendors would be interested,
so
> they get more sites supporting their browser. People like Microsoft on the
> Mac side of things, Opera, and the Mozilla project.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Barre Bizon
> > Sent: 01 February 2001 13:56
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] I forgot
> >
> >
> > This is probably the best thing said on this list for a
> > long while.
> > I totally agree that it would be in the vendors best
> > interest to get involved. But probably for the same reasons
> > that there are different browsers, they won't.
> >
> > > - Hello everybody noew to this discussion and this
> > project. Be welcome.
> > >
> > > - Anyone listening works for Microsoft / Netscape ? Did
> > they ever notice
> > > us ? Do they care ? Couldn't they help out a bit ? What
> > we do is for
> > > their bennefit as well, isn't it ? Or am I missing some
> > brilliant
> > > business-related point here ? What about Opera people ?
> > Hey, we're
> > > trying to make your browser suitable for the masses !
> > >
> > > Ping browser developers. Pinging any bit of common sense
> > that may still
> > > wander their big-company masterplans.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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[Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage Stats

[Jared N. <ja...@aa...>]

check out the right-hand side of this page guys/gals:
http://www.echoecho.com/

the person who gave me this, told me the following of the stats:
Stats derived from:
+500,000,000 hits at
+500,000 different sites
during December, 2000

[Dynapi-Dev] IE 5.5 Bug... Mixed Mode Security alert (SSL problem)

[Michael E. <Mic...@il...>]

We are currently using the latest CVS files.

In IE 5.5 only, when using SSL, we came across a browser bug. If we pass the
param 'javascript:null' in line 73 of DynLayer we get a mixed mode security
alert on every screen. This screen cannot be set to 'Don't show me again'. I
believe this line is a patch someone entered about two weeks ago. We have
temporarily fixed this by commenting out the parameter. 

Offending line: #72 
   else if (is.ie55 && dlyr.bgImage==null && dlyr.html==null)
dlyr.setBgImage('javascript:null');

Thanks,

Michael Ellis

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Sad, but true,

http://www.satirewire.com/briefs/netscape6.shtml

So far, the "wonderous" Netscape 6 has earned a 32% overall
user-satisfaction rating.  The old 4.0 browser had a 70+ rating to give you
a benchmark.

I don't really expaect this to be anything other then a "fringe" browser.
Even the hardcore Linux people have abandoned it for Mozilla.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack_Speranza" <jsp...@gr...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage


> There were a couple of posts from the past few days referencing a couple
of
> places that track this data across multiple sites... if I remember
> correctly, the places mentioned were:
>
> www.statmarket.com
> www.thecounter.com
>
> There was some interesting exchange on the list regarding the data from
both
> of these places, so you might want to rummage through the archives if
you're
> interested.
>
> Also, we track this information at our own site (predominately corporate
> usage), and I can tell you this community is approximately 95% IE 5 or
> better (Win 98 platform is most popular, followed by NT and Win 95), about
> 4% NN 4.07 or better, no NN 6 (no surprise there!), and 1 Mac running IE
> (can't recall the version number right now).
>
> Hope this helps
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Bristowe [mailto:sco...@se...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: 'dyn...@li...'
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage
>
>
> I am sorry if some of you find this off topic but here goes.
>
> Does anyone know of somewhere where I can find the statistics on browser
> usage?
> I am trying to find the % of users who use Netscape 4 browsers below 4.08.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage

[Jack_Speranza <jsp...@gr...>]

There were a couple of posts from the past few days referencing a couple of
places that track this data across multiple sites... if I remember
correctly, the places mentioned were:

	www.statmarket.com 
	www.thecounter.com

There was some interesting exchange on the list regarding the data from both
of these places, so you might want to rummage through the archives if you're
interested.

Also, we track this information at our own site (predominately corporate
usage), and I can tell you this community is approximately 95% IE 5 or
better (Win 98 platform is most popular, followed by NT and Win 95), about
4% NN 4.07 or better, no NN 6 (no surprise there!), and 1 Mac running IE
(can't recall the version number right now).

Hope this helps

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Bristowe [mailto:sco...@se...]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 10:58 AM
To: 'dyn...@li...'
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage


I am sorry if some of you find this off topic but here goes.

Does anyone know of somewhere where I can find the statistics on browser
usage?
I am trying to find the % of users who use Netscape 4 browsers below 4.08.

Thanks,
Scott

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[Dynapi-Dev] [Dynapi-Dev][Sort of off-topic] Browser Usage

[Scott B. <sco...@se...>]

I am sorry if some of you find this off topic but here goes.

Does anyone know of somewhere where I can find the statistics on browser
usage?
I am trying to find the % of users who use Netscape 4 browsers below 4.08.

Thanks,
Scott

[Dynapi-Dev] NS Resize

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Is the NS resize thing supposed to be fully fixed?
If not..
Could someone forawrd me all the relevant data on the NS resize fix?

I'm going to have to fix it.. (reloading the doc without del'ing =
anything everythime my browser get's resize simply isn't acceptable..)
:-)