Re: [Docutils-develop] 2014: Docutils, sourceforge and migrating to github.

[engelbert g. <eng...@gm...>]

hello,

subversion does the job, so why change it .

considering the premize "release often" translated for developers "commit
often" , distributed vcs are an excuse.
(considering that people check their facebook every 5 minutes, what is the
problem with a centralized vcs)

daily vcs usage with svn is svn update, svn diff, svn commit, git doubls
this so where is the advancement ?

cheers e



On 21 January 2014 23:41, Tony N <rai...@gm...> wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> I wanted to get a status report on where things stand with VCS and a home
> for docutils.
>
> To begin, I have a few issues with source forge:
>
> I don't find the interface friendly.  It's inconsistent. I am not up to
> date with it, because everyone else is using something else.
>
> The good things with source forge:
>
> 1. The good news is sourceforge may allow docutils to bind with
> advertisements, with DevShare, we can hook into setup.py and monetize
> docutils development. For more information, you can see
> http://sourceforge.net/blog/advertising-bundling-community-and-criticism/.
>
> 2. Also source forge benefits from being funded by Dice Holdings, Inc. You
> can read more about them at http://www.diceholdingsinc.com/. According to
> their front page, I see they announced as $50 million Stock Repurchase
> program. So while I'm ignorant of finance, we can get someone from numpy to
> confirm if fiscals are sound for 2014. SF could be around for a long time.
>
> 3. SVN is simple. Older versions have a folder in every sub-directory to
> maintain metadata. It has no upsides but it's cool when you get them
> tangled up.
>
> 4. The current work flow works. But, I don't think it's true. I think
> there are people who don't want to criticize, or people who just see
> docutils website and (sorry here) think it's a dead ghost town. That's my
> first impression when I see it. To people who used SF for a decade, this
> may not make sense, but this place honestly sucks. To other people who are
> newer to python, they may not be talking, but it scares them off or
> confuses them.
>
> I have issues with subversion. Its positive is simplicity. On the other
> hand, it lacks many of the conveniences git has. It's actually nice to have
> a decentralized system. The workflow for branches is nice. It's fast. In
> 2014, I think it's safe to say many developers know how to use it.
>
> Many python projects make their home on github. Flask, Werkzeug, Tornado,
> Requests. Cython. Pandas. Numpy. IPython.
>
> I have a preference for github and git. I like their interface for
> browsing source, pull requests, issues. I think github's pull requests and
> issue system is very contributor friendly.
>
> Even SQLAlchemy moved from bitbucket to github. Here is their rationale:
> http://www.sqlalchemy.org/blog/2013/05/25/sqlalchemy-migrated-to-git/
>
> For the sake of articulating it, who makes the choice if docutils were to
> move to a new place? What is the current feeling around here?
>
>
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