Re: Re: [dict-beta] Formatted properly?

[Navdeep B. <pop...@jp...>]

This is my reply to "Re: [dict-beta] Formatted properly?" from Radovan Garabik <ga...@me...>:

Hey, is the original content in ASCII, or did I funk up the encoding when I converted it to a DICT database?

Here are the entries you mentioned from the original content:

Goncz, Arpad  Hung. aut. & polit.; pres. of Hungary 1990-- _1922--

Yuri I (Yuri Dolgorukii)  Rus. grand prince of Kiev 1149-1150, 1150, 1155-1157; founded Moscow 1147 _1090?-1157

Looks like diacretics were already missing. I'll convert the text to UTF-8 anyway, but I don't think it contains any "special" characters.

About the index file, I intentionally changed the name order, users are more likely to type in names with the first name first. If someone would implement a database format like the one Rik mentioned in a recent post, I would be able to include both versions.

While we're talking about database format additions, why not a category property? Database headers(see previous message) could be used to send the categories to the client(or maybe a new command completely unrelated to my headers idea), and a new command could be used to limit a database to certain categories, example:

X-CATS factbook asia,europe

Every time the database is searched after this command, only entries in those categories will be returned. Would anybody else find something like this useful?

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Your Message:

>From: Radovan Garabik <ga...@me...>
>To: dic...@di...
>Subject: Re: [dict-beta] Formatted properly?
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:35:02 +0200
>User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i
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>I wrote:
>> well... this mail was written in UTF8, at least I'll
>> test my MUA, I hope it appears ok :-)
>
>It did not appear ok... this should be correct version
>(sorry for the inconvenience)
>
>On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 01:00:04PM -0700, Navdeep Bains wrote:
>> I haven't received any emails about the biographical dictionary, can I assume it's been formatted properly? does it work correctly?
>
>well, it is ok, I have just some nitpicks (I know it does not concern you,
>but I am going to tell it anyway :-))
>
>citeing from README:
> Each entry begins with the
> person's name, the most significant name (in modern Western culture, this
> means the last name) coming first.
> 
>This is valid for database file, but index file seems 
>to be organized First name - Second name
>This is an inconsistency that (imho) should be corrected
>
>Names are in ASCII, which is fine for english but bad
>for other languages...
>Diacritics is simply stripped, and once missing, one cannot
>know how to put it back (was it Arpad Gonz or Arp‡d Gšnz?)
>(at least german names use Okish way of using ae, oe, ue)
>ASCII-only index for searching is OK, but there should be at
>least some way to show TRUE name in database (hint: UTF8 :-))
>This is even worse for names originating in non-latin script,
>and Russian names use rather inconsistent transliteration
>See transliteration of ???? ?????????? 
>  Name: Yuri I (Yuri Dolgorukii)
>Either Yuri Dolgoruki, or Yurii Dolgorukii, but NOT Yuri Dolgorukii,
>it just does not make sense
>
>(un)fortunately, I cannot comment on arabic or chinese :-)
>(though.... isn't pinyin the "official" way of transcribing chinese 
>names? shouldn't it be Mao Zedong instead of Mao Tse-Tung? - and
>why is it not Mao Tsetung anyway?)
>
>
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