Re: [Devil-linux-develop] ideas for the [Devil-Linux] build system

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

Hi, 

I looked over Webmin, since it was mentioned as a configuration service for DL
-- and it is straight and simple perl.  It does not even use Apache as it has a
perl webserver.

This is good news for me since I believe that perl is the only language
necessary for life, except possibly Korn Shell (KSH).

Perl uses a concept called "complex structures" to contain all information. 
These can be frozen to disk, but without code, just data.  There is a tool to
facilitate code and possibly binary storage, which I need to look into.

You could think of these  as XML documents, but written by programmers rather
than ... well, my opinion of XML is not glowing.

The biggest problem with the custom compile, will not be DL itself, since the
present version works pretty well, but the KERNEL compile.  There is a kernel
config project in sourceforge but a recent email suggested that they are at
odds with Linus himself... 

I had written an education document for my Perl Users of NY group and this is
the URL.
http://www.thinman.com/perl_primer/

It is based on Perl5.5.3 and I have a win32 support version called gnoo-nix in:
http://www.thinman.com/win32/.  This includes an entire ZSH un*x-on-win32
package but needs some maintenance, SSH is version one, for instances, and
there is a mingw branch pumping out all new GNU software in sourceforge.

This is a perl5.5.3 release.  In my opinion, all perl after this version fails
user-accpetance because many scripts written under perl5.5.3 dont run on
perl5.6 and perl5.8

Amazingly, Perl6 will have different syntax, so it is not perl at all.

My people tell me that Ruby, a logical extension of perl, is really the best
available language, though Java and C++ make the real money.

I am also completing a project called DepthDB, or "the puzzle."  It is a
complex structure database and desktop, my snapshot output is at:
http://www.thinman.com/cgi-bin/Depth

It is a complex structure database and desktop, my snapshot output is at:
http://www.thinman.com/cgi-bin/Depth

http://www.thinman.com/cgi-bin/Depth.lib is the update version and will run
under https but is presently broken.

I had to abandon while I was recovering from PTSD.  It was triggering memories
of the disaster because I was working on it when the enemy struck.

My laptop was stolen as well in December, setting me back about 1 month of work
on this project.


--- Friedrich Lobenstock <fl...@fl...> wrote:
> Hello Heiko and all!
> 
> If I remember correctly some time ago you wanted to abandon the
> current build system in favour of a new and more flexible one.
> In your feature request [devil-linux-Feature Requests-693367] I
> see:
>    do not use build/123script anymore
> 
>    introduce system which uses dependencies and calls the
>    scripts in the right order
>    do it similar to the insserv utility
> 
> Why not use insserv without changing it? Just adding the
> following lines to each script?
> 
> Here an example for the kernel (build/scripts/linux):
> ### BEGIN INIT INFO
> # Provides: linux
> # Required-Start:
> # Required-Stop:
> # Default-Start:  config build
> # Default-Stop:
> # Description:    linux kernel build stage 1
> ### END INIT INFO
> 
> Here an example for the kernel (build/scripts/linux-2):
> ### BEGIN INIT INFO
> # Provides: linux-2
> # Required-Start: linux
> # Required-Stop:
> # Default-Start:  build install
> # Default-Stop:
> # Description:    linux kernel build stage 2
> ### END INIT INFO
> 
> -- 
> MfG / Regards
> Friedrich Lobenstock
> ____________________________________________________________________
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