[Devil-linux-develop] LSB, Harddisk support, SHMFS (an other comments based on general meeting)

[John v. V. <joh...@ya...>]

Hi again DLers and Linux Society,

Note keywords: LSB, Harddisk support, SHMFS

I just looked at this and didn't find much too relevant
http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.1.0/gLSB/book1.html

It seems that we will have to use your system as template for our releases and
updates and then somehow be able to supply back scripts which you would then
refine for security purposes.

Also, I dont think our distro should have the packages in them, it defeats the
purpose of our distribution model, which is "on demand"

Getting to the nitty gritty:
Using the sysconfig/network script as an example, neither it nor its location
is mentioned

One problem with the script was that the author used something like 

x=`ls | grep ifcfg-` (dont have it in front of me)

I would write 
x=ifcfg-*

The route line was broken too

Stuff like script style isnt even mentioned.

I would even prefer to use perl so I could eliminate .bak or .old suffixes
Perl isnt mentioned in the LSB either, yet it is an admin staple.

As to packaging... well we unanimously rejected RPMs last night !!

We like:
tar cvf - | ssh -l user host "cd directory ; tar xvf -"

We like yours also, but want to create an alternative to /usr (and not /opt
either)

Then they mention certification, do we really need that headache ??

I think what my boys (and girl ;) want are accepted locations for config files
and scripts and a reasonable expect ion that they are written with good coding
style.  They are assuming that they will find the kindest version in Debian.

Shells, they mention Bash and some other... no busy box !!  No korn shell
either :(

Frankly, it looks like its designed to benefit the big boys...

Heiko Zuerker wrote ( > > ):
> > I don't have any Debian knowledge, but when it's good what you do
> > and we like it, why not change it?

Friedrich Lobenstock wrote ( > ):
> I think we should be LSB compliant, and in the end it should be all
> the same.
> 
> >
> > > They so much love the CD-only solution. They then
> > > suggested we search for a VFAT MSDOS disk as well where we could
> > > set up [ stuff ]

> > This will change in the Beta6. Harddisk support (log, swap,
> > samba,...) is running. DL itself doesn't run anymore in a Ramdisk,
> > we switched to SHMFS (uses, if neccessary, swapspace).
> 

> Currently we use 40 MB SHMFS and we have 64 MB as minimum RAM
> requirement.

> > > Also, they dont like ISO Boot 
> > > DL was trying to boot from the CDWriter, hdc
> > > not the Fast CDreader, hdd.
> >
> > Needs some improvements. ;-)
> 
> It's not a bug it's a feature! 
> We'll fix that in the next beta after 0.5b6.

> 
> > > Ethernet card detection is very high on the list, for obvious
> > > reasons. 
> > If you think so. ;-)
> 
> From a security standpoint I would like the user to specifiy which
> module to load first because otherwise the internal and external
> interface could get swapped.

> But DL for sure could become the standard versatile cdrom distro in
> the future.

Don't you mean LSD/DL ?? :)

Ok, I must confess that I am knee deep in NYPC politics again, its taking up my
most useful hours.  Basically boils down to money for office rent and services
to keep members.  Both nowhere to be found.

We'll keep hacking, looks like I will have to install Debian to satisfy the
members.

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