[Devil-linux-develop] nmap in the DL server-version (was: [Devil-Linux-discuss] arpwatch,iptraf, ipp2p... updating applications)

[Thomas E. <di...@yo...>]

Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> On Tue, October 4, 2005 12:45, Jan Ostrochovsky wrote:
> 
>>>>Nmap could be also useful part of DL.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So far we refused any request about installing tools which could be
>>>used to scan other systems. It's of course always open for discussion, if
>>>you got good reasons for this request.
>>>
>>
>>OK, I respect your opinions and I am sure, you had reasons for this
>>decision.
>>
>>My arguments:
>>
>>
>>Premise 1: DL is designed for network administrators (like you or me).
>>Premise 2: Nmap can help network administrators with (not only) these:
>>a) nmap -sP $subnet/$mask (potentially with combination with arp -a) is
>>useful for getting the list of on-line hosts of home network $subnet/$mask
>> b) nmap localhost or nmap -sU localhost (fast self-diagnostic method, for
>>example may be part of security audit of the system) c) getting info about
>>unauthorized intruders in the home network
>>
>>=> nmap can bring more usability for network admins to DL.
>>
>>
>>My deep personal belief is, that to build the RIGHT society, the path
>>does not lead through revoking people the power, tools or freedom, but
>>through education them to responsibility for using the power. When
>>somebody will want to be a cracker, he will found the way and the absence
>>of nmap in DL will be no obstruction. I think, the way is to give people
>>the model of behaviour, not to try restrict the possibility to show their
>>bad manners. Like nuclear energy, nmap itself is not good or bad (in moral
>>aspect), good or bad are people's reasons only.
> 

Premise 2d): tools like http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ needs it ;-)
Premise 3): DL has a server and router "version"

> 
> I see your point.
> It's like with everything else, the DL Developers can vote to add it.
> 

where can i vote? i didn't see any on:
http://www.devil-linux.org/sitetools/polls.php


-- 
thomas