Re: [Devil-linux-develop] [Fwd: [grsec] Important Announcement Regarding the grsecurity Project]

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> That's the problem with Opensource, it doesn't pay the bills.

A lot of people make money off open source.  But that's a topic for a
different thread ...

It's no secret that I've never liked grsecurity because it caused
problems on my DL servers, but I do feel bad when a project is stopped
because of lack of money.

In any case, I'll suggest (again) that we drop grsecurity from DL.  
If we really need something like that, maybe we should look around for
something else.  About a year ago, these guys http://www.linuxbox.com/
(who make money from open source) came to my LUG and did a presentation
on LIDS.  Take a look:  http://www.linuxbox.com/ABOUT/LIDS.pdf
This looked like good stuff, and I was very impressed!
http://www.lids.org/about.html

I also got the impression from the presentation that LIDS was only
active once it was started, so if you didn't want to use it, then you
just don't start LIDS.  Something I wish I could do with grsecurity on a
server, so it wouldn't kill my mission critical processes.

 - BS