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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] 1.4RC2 Oopsing on me ...

[Frank W. <Fra...@ct...>]

Hi Serge,

I have 2 questions regarding this...

*) will VPN with MS clients work without the mppc/mppe module?
*) I remember trying IAS a long time ago, and I didn't really like it,
but I can't recall why.... Doesn't it need the user's password to be
stored in a special way in AD to work?

Thanks a lot,

Frank




Serge Leschinsky wrote:
> Hi Frank,
> 
> On 11/27/2009 07:17 AM, Frank Weis wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am testing pptp authentication against an AD backend with pppd's
>> winbind plugin.. (I use this without trouble on several DL-1.2.x
>> releases...)
> Do you use mppc patch for DL 1.4? I see the latest mppe-mppc patch was from you.
> I haven't tested it, but all my attempts to adapt mppc caused the same result -
> oops in mppe_mppc module. If it's not critical, I'd suggest omitting this patch.
> 
> I have the similar setup but pptpd authenticates against AD via RADIUS (IAS
> service). It works.
> 
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Leschinsky [mailto:fi...@in...]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:59 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
> 
> On 11/18/2009 07:57 PM, Serge Leschinsky wrote:
> > Heiko,
> >
> > Let me check it first, I have HP 8xCPU and 16GB RAM in the staging
> area. iso
> > will be done in a day and I'll share the results of testing.
> >
> > basically, the only concern I have is performance degradation....
> 
> root@vpnc:~ # procinfo
> Linux 2.6.31.6 (root@linux-s463) (gcc 4.1.2) #1 SMP Sat Nov 21 04:33:32
> EST 2009
> 8CPU [vpnc.test.net]
> 
> Memory:      Total        Used        Free      Shared     Buffers
> Mem:      16494800    16033692      461108           0       54104
> Swap:            0           0           0
> 
> Bootup: Mon Nov 23 21:12:19 2009    Load average: 4.64 3.99 2.74 6/126
> 4825
> 
> 
> I was too optimistic when I thought I can easily measure the difference
> in
> performance degradation. Now I think it's not so easy... Actually it's
> impossible without a special test-suit.
> 
> In general PAE kernel works without problem (at least on my system), so
> I guess
> we can propagate this change to other systems.

I turned it on for i686 and AMD_K8.

Heiko

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] 1.4RC2 Oopsing on me ...

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

Hi Frank,

On 11/27/2009 07:17 AM, Frank Weis wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am testing pptp authentication against an AD backend with pppd's
> winbind plugin.. (I use this without trouble on several DL-1.2.x
> releases...)
Do you use mppc patch for DL 1.4? I see the latest mppe-mppc patch was from you.
I haven't tested it, but all my attempts to adapt mppc caused the same result -
oops in mppe_mppc module. If it's not critical, I'd suggest omitting this patch.

I have the similar setup but pptpd authenticates against AD via RADIUS (IAS
service). It works.

Serge

[Devil-Linux-discuss] 1.4RC2 Oopsing on me ...

[Frank W. <Fra...@ct...>]

Hi all,

I am testing pptp authentication against an AD backend with pppd's
winbind plugin.. (I use this without trouble on several DL-1.2.x
releases...)

The authentication part seems to work alright, but the kernel is oopsing
on me. I don't have the slightest clue how to tackle this problem, but
I'll gladly provide any info that might help....

Thanks,

Frank




Nov 27 13:33:04 src@testmachine pppd[3626]: rcvd [CHAP Response id=0xb5
<e2b6e553c27aec7ad1e96b28884381100000000000000000628cdd3666013b34f7a23ca2c93a6
f0131117300a3cc6efe00>, name = "weifr259"]
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : BUG: unable to handle kernel
NULL pointer dereference at 00000002
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : IP: [<e0775f0f>]
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : *pde = 00000000
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Oops: 0000 [#3] SMP
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : last sysfs file:
/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/name
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Modules linked in: ppp_deflate
ppp_async crc_ccitt arc4 ppp_mppe_mppc ppp_generic slhc ipv6 deflate
zlib_deflate ctr twofish twofish_common camellia serpent blowfish cast5
aes_i586 aes_generic xcbc rmd160 sha1_generic hmac crypto_null e1000
8021q garp stp dm_mod md_mod parport_pc parport iTCO_wdt thermal button
e1000e i2c_i801 ata_generic iTCO_vendor_support rng_core pata_acpi
i2c_core shpchp pci_hotplug aufs ahci ata_piix libata loop
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: :
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Pid: 3626, comm: pppd Tainted:
G      D    (2.6.31.5-grsec #1)
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : EIP: 0060:[<e0775f0f>] EFLAGS:
00010282 CPU: 0
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : EAX: ffffffea EBX: 00000012
ECX: e0544120 EDX: 00000000
Nov 27 13:33:04 src@testmachine pppd[3626]: sent [CHAP Success id=0xb5
"S=C0961E1AE6EEDA0C89DAB8EFCC3D048893727853 M=Access granted"]
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : ESI: de06debc EDI: de0037b8
EBP: de003740 ESP: de06ddf4
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : DS: 0068 ES: 0068 FS: 00d8 GS:
00e0 SS: 0068
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Process pppd (pid: 3626,
ti=de06c000 task=dec60890 task.ti=de06c000)
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Stack:
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : 5b3c0068 8954ec68 5b3c3750
5b3c3750 e075f700 dec0f1a8 c10c9091 8954ec68
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : <0> de06debe 00000000 00000000
e077717e 00000020 8954ec68 de06debc e0771000
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : <0> 5b3c3708 de1ed300 e0761dd6
00000000 df024f94 c120af8f 8954ec68 df024f94
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Call Trace:
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<e075f700>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c10c9091>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<e077717e>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<e0761dd6>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c120af8f>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c1033412>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c1092dd7>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<e0761070>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c10bd4b7>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c10bd789>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c10b17d5>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c10b1817>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c10bdf64>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : [<c1003fbc>] ?
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : Code: 77 e0 e8 35 01 a6 e0 85
c0 89 45 00 0f 84 9b 01 00 00 31 c9 31 d2 b8 a9 71 77 e0 e8 1c 01 a6 e0
85 c0 89 45 04 0f 84 d2 01 00 00 <8b> 58 18 83 fb 0f 0f 86 b5 00 00 00
ba d0 00 00 00 89 d8 e8 39
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : EIP: [<e0775f0f>]  SS:ESP
0068:de06ddf4
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : CR2: 0000000000000002
Nov 27 13:33:06 src@testmachine kernel: : ---[ end trace
1272391bd654229a ]---

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

On 11/18/2009 07:57 PM, Serge Leschinsky wrote:
> Heiko,
> 
> Let me check it first, I have HP 8xCPU and 16GB RAM in the staging area. iso
> will be done in a day and I'll share the results of testing.
> 
> basically, the only concern I have is performance degradation....

root@vpnc:~ # procinfo
Linux 2.6.31.6 (root@linux-s463) (gcc 4.1.2) #1 SMP Sat Nov 21 04:33:32 EST 2009
8CPU [vpnc.test.net]

Memory:      Total        Used        Free      Shared     Buffers
Mem:      16494800    16033692      461108           0       54104
Swap:            0           0           0

Bootup: Mon Nov 23 21:12:19 2009    Load average: 4.64 3.99 2.74 6/126 4825


I was too optimistic when I thought I can easily measure the difference in
performance degradation. Now I think it's not so easy... Actually it's
impossible without a special test-suit.

In general PAE kernel works without problem (at least on my system), so I guess
we can propagate this change to other systems.

Sincerely,
Serge

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Bradlee L. <bra...@gm...>]

Yeah. I did it out of order, but then I tried doing them all again, it
didn't work. I'll try it again next week sometime.

Thanks,
Brad Landis



On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
> Quoting Bradlee Landis <bra...@gm...>:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>>> Don't specify a release tag, then you get the latest and greatest.
>>
>> I just want to add PAE support to the kernel. If I have to build a
>> whole system using CVS HEAD, that's ok, as long as I can assume that
>> it is stable enough for use in a live system.
>>
>> I'm having an issue though... "make prepare" tells me, "no kernel
>> sources found." I downloaded the CVS branches, and got the package
>> sources... I did "make unpack", so what am I doing wrong?
>
> Did you run the update_src script in the root of the build folder? I
> downloads all the required tarballs from our ftp server.
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Quoting Bradlee Landis <bra...@gm...>:

> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>> Don't specify a release tag, then you get the latest and greatest.
>
> I just want to add PAE support to the kernel. If I have to build a
> whole system using CVS HEAD, that's ok, as long as I can assume that
> it is stable enough for use in a live system.
>
> I'm having an issue though... "make prepare" tells me, "no kernel
> sources found." I downloaded the CVS branches, and got the package
> sources... I did "make unpack", so what am I doing wrong?

Did you run the update_src script in the root of the build folder? I  
downloads all the required tarballs from our ftp server.

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Bradlee L. <bra...@gm...>]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
> Don't specify a release tag, then you get the latest and greatest.

I just want to add PAE support to the kernel. If I have to build a
whole system using CVS HEAD, that's ok, as long as I can assume that
it is stable enough for use in a live system.

I'm having an issue though... "make prepare" tells me, "no kernel
sources found." I downloaded the CVS branches, and got the package
sources... I did "make unpack", so what am I doing wrong?

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Bruce S. <bw...@re...>]

>>> This is really important that I get this, whether it be an official
>>> release, or otherwise I can build my own kernel. If you don't mind
>>> telling me, how do I create the build environment? Do I download the
>>> LFS files (I assume if that is the case, they contain make and a
>>> compiler and all necessary libs?)
>> http://www.devil-linux.org/documentation/1.3.x/ch03.html
>
> A couple of problems.
>
> 1. Your CVS link is broken in the documentation. I was able to find it
> by taking off everything except the domain itself though.
> 2. There is no tag for 1.4RC1 in the CVS that I found. Should I just
> use the kernel that's in HEAD? I'm not a CVS expert, so maybe there is
> a revision number I can use, unless you want to go ahead and tag it
> correctly for me.

1.4RCx is still considered to be 1.3 in CVS.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Quoting Bradlee Landis <bra...@gm...>:

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>>> This is really important that I get this, whether it be an official
>>> release, or otherwise I can build my own kernel. If you don't mind
>>> telling me, how do I create the build environment? Do I download the
>>> LFS files (I assume if that is the case, they contain make and a
>>> compiler and all necessary libs?)
>> http://www.devil-linux.org/documentation/1.3.x/ch03.html
>
> A couple of problems.
>
> 1. Your CVS link is broken in the documentation. I was able to find it
> by taking off everything except the domain itself though.

Yeah the documentation needs some serious work....

> 2. There is no tag for 1.4RC1 in the CVS that I found. Should I just
> use the kernel that's in HEAD? I'm not a CVS expert, so maybe there is
> a revision number I can use, unless you want to go ahead and tag it
> correctly for me.

Don't specify a release tag, then you get the latest and greatest.


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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Bradlee L. <bra...@gm...>]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>> This is really important that I get this, whether it be an official
>> release, or otherwise I can build my own kernel. If you don't mind
>> telling me, how do I create the build environment? Do I download the
>> LFS files (I assume if that is the case, they contain make and a
>> compiler and all necessary libs?)
> http://www.devil-linux.org/documentation/1.3.x/ch03.html

A couple of problems.

1. Your CVS link is broken in the documentation. I was able to find it
by taking off everything except the domain itself though.
2. There is no tag for 1.4RC1 in the CVS that I found. Should I just
use the kernel that's in HEAD? I'm not a CVS expert, so maybe there is
a revision number I can use, unless you want to go ahead and tag it
correctly for me.

Thanks again,
Brad Landis

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

Heiko,

Let me check it first, I have HP 8xCPU and 16GB RAM in the staging area. iso
will be done in a day and I'll share the results of testing.

basically, the only concern I have is performance degradation....

http://people.redhat.com/nmurray/RHEL-2.1-VM-whitepaper.pdf

• What is the overhead, in terms of space and time, of using a PAE enabled
kernel as compared to an SMP kernel?
....
The performance impact is highly workload dependent, but on a fairly typical
kernel compile, the PAE penalty works out to be around a 1% performance hit on
Red Hat’s test boxes. Testing with various other workload mixes has given
performance hits ranging from 0% to 10%.


Serge


On 11/18/2009 05:46 PM, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> Serge,
> 
> Should we try enabling it for the standard i686 build?
> 
> Heiko
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Leschinsky [mailto:fi...@in...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:21 PM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
> 
> On 11/18/2009 07:45 AM, Bradlee Landis wrote:
>> Yeah, I saw that quoted information. Is the kernel too large to
>> include one with PAE and one without in the iso? I use FINNIX a lot
>> for administration, and it includes two kernels (I think 32bit and
>> AMD64), and the size of their image is only about 180 MB.
> Bradlee, I suppose technically it may be done, but it's a challenge, because
> neither build system nor Live-CD logic doesn't have such options now. I
> completely agree with Heiko that the main goal for DL team is 1.4 release.
> 
> However, I'm ready to build the image which will comply with your
> requirements
> and include PAE kernel.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Serge
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Serge,

Should we try enabling it for the standard i686 build?

Heiko

-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Leschinsky [mailto:fi...@in...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:21 PM
To: dev...@li...
Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

On 11/18/2009 07:45 AM, Bradlee Landis wrote:
> Yeah, I saw that quoted information. Is the kernel too large to
> include one with PAE and one without in the iso? I use FINNIX a lot
> for administration, and it includes two kernels (I think 32bit and
> AMD64), and the size of their image is only about 180 MB.
Bradlee, I suppose technically it may be done, but it's a challenge, because
neither build system nor Live-CD logic doesn't have such options now. I
completely agree with Heiko that the main goal for DL team is 1.4 release.

However, I'm ready to build the image which will comply with your
requirements
and include PAE kernel.

Sincerely,
Serge

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Serge L. <fi...@in...>]

On 11/18/2009 07:45 AM, Bradlee Landis wrote:
> Yeah, I saw that quoted information. Is the kernel too large to
> include one with PAE and one without in the iso? I use FINNIX a lot
> for administration, and it includes two kernels (I think 32bit and
> AMD64), and the size of their image is only about 180 MB.
Bradlee, I suppose technically it may be done, but it's a challenge, because
neither build system nor Live-CD logic doesn't have such options now. I
completely agree with Heiko that the main goal for DL team is 1.4 release.

However, I'm ready to build the image which will comply with your requirements
and include PAE kernel.

Sincerely,
Serge

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bradlee Landis [mailto:bra...@gm...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:39 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
> 
> http://www.held.org.il/blog/?p=79
> 
> Also note this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/syslinux/releases/282294
> . It would automatically select the correct one for the syslinux
> bootloader... I would guess that lilo and grub both have that ability
> as well.

I didn't know syslinux did that. ;-)
Anyway, having more than one Kernel available doesn't fit into the current
DL design and would need some major changes to the build system.
I'm not willing to do that right now, since I really would like to
officially release 1.4 at some point.
 
> This is really important that I get this, whether it be an official
> release, or otherwise I can build my own kernel. If you don't mind
> telling me, how do I create the build environment? Do I download the
> LFS files (I assume if that is the case, they contain make and a
> compiler and all necessary libs?)

http://www.devil-linux.org/documentation/1.3.x/ch03.html
 
> Anyways, I've asked the experts about PAE...
> http://serverfault.com/questions/85980/what-processors-do-do-not-
> support-pae

According to the Wikipedia article, it sounds to me we could enable this as
a default in the i686 version.

Heiko

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrea montefusco [mailto:and...@gm...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: Fra...@ct...; dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module
> 
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Frank Weis <Fra...@ct...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > as far as I can see, neither lcd4linux nor LCDproc is actively
> > maintained.....
> 
> Mmm, maybe someone is working on lcd4linux; in
> 
> http://ssl.bulix.org/projects/lcd4linux/browser/trunk?order=date&desc=1
> 
> I can see changes done 18 minutes ago.
> 
> On last september I bought a PicoLCD graphic display and I managed to
> use it on a 9.04 Ubuntu distro with various LCD4linux releases.

You're right, seems like somebody must have picked it up, let's hope it
stays that way....

Heiko

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module

[andrea m. <and...@gm...>]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Frank Weis <Fra...@ct...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as far as I can see, neither lcd4linux nor LCDproc is actively
> maintained.....

Mmm, maybe someone is working on lcd4linux; in

http://ssl.bulix.org/projects/lcd4linux/browser/trunk?order=date&desc=1

I can see changes done 18 minutes ago.

On last september I bought a PicoLCD graphic display and I managed to
use it on a 9.04 Ubuntu distro with various LCD4linux releases.


  *am*

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Bradlee L. <bra...@gm...>]

http://www.held.org.il/blog/?p=79

Also note this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/syslinux/releases/282294
. It would automatically select the correct one for the syslinux
bootloader... I would guess that lilo and grub both have that ability
as well.

This is really important that I get this, whether it be an official
release, or otherwise I can build my own kernel. If you don't mind
telling me, how do I create the build environment? Do I download the
LFS files (I assume if that is the case, they contain make and a
compiler and all necessary libs?)

Anyways, I've asked the experts about PAE...
http://serverfault.com/questions/85980/what-processors-do-do-not-support-pae
.

-Brad

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bradlee Landis [mailto:bra...@gm...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:45 AM
>> To: dev...@li...
>> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
>>
>> Yeah, I saw that quoted information. Is the kernel too large to
>> include one with PAE and one without in the iso? I use FINNIX a lot
>> for administration, and it includes two kernels (I think 32bit and
>> AMD64), and the size of their image is only about 180 MB.
>
> The problem is that you'd have to select the kernel during boot.
>
>> Or maybe you should take a poll of your users to see how many have
>> machines that are incompatible with PAE.
>
> Yeah most users won't even know. Can someone do the research which CPUs are
> actually supporting it?
> Maybe it's safe to say i.e. i686 and up?
>
>> By the way, where is RC2? I see reference to it, but I have not seen
>> any downloads available. Is it not complete?
>
> There's no official RC2 release, just the development version.
> The latest and greatest is always here:
> ftp://ftp.devil-linux.org/pub/devel/testing/
>
> Heiko
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bradlee Landis [mailto:bra...@gm...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:45 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
> 
> Yeah, I saw that quoted information. Is the kernel too large to
> include one with PAE and one without in the iso? I use FINNIX a lot
> for administration, and it includes two kernels (I think 32bit and
> AMD64), and the size of their image is only about 180 MB.

The problem is that you'd have to select the kernel during boot. 
 
> Or maybe you should take a poll of your users to see how many have
> machines that are incompatible with PAE.

Yeah most users won't even know. Can someone do the research which CPUs are
actually supporting it?
Maybe it's safe to say i.e. i686 and up?

> By the way, where is RC2? I see reference to it, but I have not seen
> any downloads available. Is it not complete?

There's no official RC2 release, just the development version.
The latest and greatest is always here:
ftp://ftp.devil-linux.org/pub/devel/testing/

Heiko

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

Bradlee Landis wrote:
> By the way, where is RC2? I see reference to it, but I have not seen
> any downloads available. Is it not complete?
ftp://ftp.devil-linux.org/pub/devel/testing/

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Bradlee L. <bra...@gm...>]

Yeah, I saw that quoted information. Is the kernel too large to
include one with PAE and one without in the iso? I use FINNIX a lot
for administration, and it includes two kernels (I think 32bit and
AMD64), and the size of their image is only about 180 MB.

Or maybe you should take a poll of your users to see how many have
machines that are incompatible with PAE.

By the way, where is RC2? I see reference to it, but I have not seen
any downloads available. Is it not complete?

-Brad

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Heiko Zuerker <he...@zu...> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Serge Leschinsky [mailto:fi...@in...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:01 AM
>> To: dev...@li...
>> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
>>
>> On 11/17/2009 03:23 PM, Bradlee Landis wrote:
>> > I have a server with 8GB of memory, but I'm only seeing 4GB. I saw
>> > something online about 64 bit kernels and the PAE module built into
>> > the kernel. Are either of these options available for Devil Linux?
>> 64bit DL is still in progress. I believe you can get "the same" result
>> if add
>> the following lines to the end of
>> build/scripts/config/linux-2.6/config_linux.686 file
>>
>> # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
>> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y
>
> This change would have to be for a custom compilation of DL. Here's why (out
> of the Kernel config help):
>
> --------snip-----------
> If more than 4 Gigabytes is used then answer "64GB" here. This
> selection turns Intel PAE (Physical Address Extension) mode on.
> PAE implements 3-level paging on IA32 processors. PAE is fully
> supported by Linux, PAE mode is implemented on all recent Intel
> processors (Pentium Pro and better). NOTE: If you say "64GB" here,
> then the kernel will not boot on CPUs that don't support PAE!
> --------snap-----------
>
> Heiko
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module

[Bradlee L. <bra...@gm...>]

@Frank, We also are using the NexCom servers with those buttons. We're
not doing anything with the buttons though, just the display.

@Heiko, with our current setup, it's not easy to update anyways (it's
a stretch to even get my boss to move to 1.4RC1 from 1.2.15... if it
wasn't required that we use the e1000e module on new servers, we'd
still be with the old version). If the actual release was out, we
might would go with that one for security's sake.

LCDProc hasn't been updated since 2007, so if it works that would be
great. I haven't seen many options available. I will add something to
the bug tracker though, and if I find anything else, I will add a
comment there.

Thanks,
Brad

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Frank Weis <Fra...@ct...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as far as I can see, neither lcd4linux nor LCDproc is actively
> maintained.....
>
> It's a pity because I have +- 40 NexCom appliances sporting such a
> Display with a 4 button keypad (up, down, enter, escape). The display is
> supported, the buttons are not...
>
> I talked this over with a colleague, whether it were worthwile to dig
> into this and provide some functionality to local admins via this
> interface.... we came to the conclusion that we'd rather develop some
> kind of shell application if need be....
>
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module

[Frank W. <Fra...@ct...>]

Hi all,

as far as I can see, neither lcd4linux nor LCDproc is actively
maintained.....

It's a pity because I have +- 40 NexCom appliances sporting such a
Display with a 4 button keypad (up, down, enter, escape). The display is
supported, the buttons are not...

I talked this over with a colleague, whether it were worthwile to dig
into this and provide some functionality to local admins via this
interface.... we came to the conclusion that we'd rather develop some
kind of shell application if need be....


Regards,

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dominic Raferd [mailto:dl...@ed...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:29 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] "parport" Replacement Module
> 
> Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bradlee Landis [mailto:bra...@gm...]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:02 PM
> >>
> >> No I didn't see that, but that's not good for me... Is there another
> >> LCD program?
> >>
> >
> > Please let us know if you find a program, I did a search a couple
> months
> > back and couldn't find anything.
> >
> LCDproc? http://www.lcdproc.org/index.php3

*LOL*, you make me look bad.
Okay I admit I only did a half a$$ search. ;-)

Bradlee, please add "add lcdproc" to our bug tracker as a feature request,
so we don't forget about it.

Heiko

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Leschinsky [mailto:fi...@in...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:01 AM
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] PAE Kernel
> 
> On 11/17/2009 03:23 PM, Bradlee Landis wrote:
> > I have a server with 8GB of memory, but I'm only seeing 4GB. I saw
> > something online about 64 bit kernels and the PAE module built into
> > the kernel. Are either of these options available for Devil Linux?
> 64bit DL is still in progress. I believe you can get "the same" result
> if add
> the following lines to the end of
> build/scripts/config/linux-2.6/config_linux.686 file
> 
> # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y

This change would have to be for a custom compilation of DL. Here's why (out
of the Kernel config help):

--------snip-----------
If more than 4 Gigabytes is used then answer "64GB" here. This
selection turns Intel PAE (Physical Address Extension) mode on.
PAE implements 3-level paging on IA32 processors. PAE is fully
supported by Linux, PAE mode is implemented on all recent Intel
processors (Pentium Pro and better). NOTE: If you say "64GB" here,
then the kernel will not boot on CPUs that don't support PAE!
--------snap-----------

Heiko