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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] TimeDicer

[Dick M. <di...@fo...>]

On 11/06/10 13:34, Dominic Raferd wrote:
> On 06/11/2010 11:50, Dick Middleton wrote:

> TS-O-Matic website allows you to build your thin client online and then
> download it to use.

Yes, I discovered that later.  It's smart isn't it.

> I'm interested in the security aspect of running from ramdisk. Do you
> boot the system and then remove the cd/flash drive?

Yes.  I have 2 partitions on my usb stick.  One for the boot iso and the 
other for storing the config file.

  Is this safer than
> having boot system and config on CD,

Safer? no.  It's just I don't have a cd drive anymore.  A cd drive is 
not ideal for being left for a long time unused.  My DL has no moving 
parts. It runs typically for a year without rebooting (power fail 
usually gets it sometime :( )

or on flash drive with a physical
> lock (whether or not config is on the boot partition)? (In all cases it
> is vulnerable to someone with physical access to the machine.)

Sure.  The problem with usb stick is that they're a bit vulnerable to 
being knocked and being pulled out.  I guess an sd card reader would be OK.

As for physical access, well yes. However, for better or for worse, 
with only volatile storage attached if the system goes down then it's 
down and gone until somebody comes along with boot media.

The read-only root fs is DL's big differentiator; might as well make the 
most of it.

Dick

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] TimeDicer

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

  On 06/11/2010 11:50, Dick Middleton wrote:
>
> I'm not familiar with thinstation.  A quick read suggests they load apps
> after booting. My idea is to create custom CDs - before booting. But
> that's the general idea.
Thinstation is for thin clients that use network booting. But the 
TS-O-Matic website allows you to build your thin client online and then 
download it to use. It may not be technically the same as having a 
DL-build-your-own website but it is the same idea. At a practical level 
a DL-O-Matic would probably need to produce a diff file which could then 
be applied to a standard bootcd.iso.
> You can run DL off the CD/usb stick or you can load the entire root
> filesystem from the CD into ramdisk.  I use the latter, it's snappier
> and saves having a cd drive or a dongle sticking out all the time.  It
> means you can have the config file and the iso on the same stick and
> retain the protection that's DL's main feature.  It needs a ramdisk that
> is big enough to hold the entire root filesystem plus enough ram to run
> the system.  So obviously even unused components consume ram.
Ah yes, in that case. Better for you that DL should be a barebones 
system and all apps should be built-on by the user (to minimise RAM 
use). Though 450MB RAM is pretty cheap these days. Running from flash 
drive is pretty fast, too.

I'm interested in the security aspect of running from ramdisk. Do you 
boot the system and then remove the cd/flash drive? Is this safer than 
having boot system and config on CD, or on flash drive with a physical 
lock (whether or not config is on the boot partition)? (In all cases it 
is vulnerable to someone with physical access to the machine.)

Dominic

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] TimeDicer

[Dick M. <di...@fo...>]

On 11/06/10 09:50, Dominic Raferd wrote:
> Not sure if you are quite serious about the point'n'click gui for
> building apps?

No, but that sort of thing; where you just provide a list of apps you 
want included and go create iso.

  > Are you thinking of a website which would be based around a
> DL build environment and allow visitors to custom-build their DL without
> having to create their own build system. Like Thinstation's TS-O-Matic
> <http://www.thinstation.org/>?

I'm not familiar with thinstation.  A quick read suggests they load apps 
after booting. My idea is to create custom CDs - before booting. But 
that's the general idea.

> I take your point about running apps causing bloat but surely a library
> such as librsync is not using any RAM unless it is being called?

No. You can run DL off the CD/usb stick or you can load the entire root 
filesystem from the CD into ramdisk.  I use the latter, it's snappier 
and saves having a cd drive or a dongle sticking out all the time.  It 
means you can have the config file and the iso on the same stick and 
retain the protection that's DL's main feature.  It needs a ramdisk that 
is big enough to hold the entire root filesystem plus enough ram to run 
the system.  So obviously even unused components consume ram.

Dick

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] TimeDicer

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

  Not sure if you are quite serious about the point'n'click gui for 
building apps? It's not quite in the spirit of DL is it?! But I like the 
idea anyway. Are you thinking of a website which would be based around a 
DL build environment and allow visitors to custom-build their DL without 
having to create their own build system. Like Thinstation's TS-O-Matic 
<http://www.thinstation.org/>?

I take your point about running apps causing bloat but surely a library 
such as librsync is not using any RAM unless it is being called? Same 
goes for rdiff-backup; unlike bacula (I think), it only runs as a 
process while it is active. In general, even daemon-based apps only use 
RAM if the user chooses to enable them (usually via DL setup). And there 
is plenty of space on the CD.

Dominic

On 06/11/2010 09:20, Dick Middleton wrote:
> On 11/06/10 07:52, Dominic Raferd wrote:
>>     Well TimeDicer<http://www.timedicer.co.uk>   is written by me so I
>> might be a bit biased -:)
> I think there's a good case for DL having application build modules.  So
> you can custom build your install iso including or not the apps of your
> choice.  Using a handy-dandy point and click gui of course :-)  Then new
> apps like this can be offered more easily.
>
> The main problem is that all apps sit in ram on the running system
> whether they are used or not.  Bloat is a bigger issue for DL than for
> HDD based distributions because of this.
>
> Dick
>
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] TimeDicer

[Dick M. <di...@fo...>]

On 11/06/10 07:52, Dominic Raferd wrote:
>    Well TimeDicer<http://www.timedicer.co.uk>  is written by me so I
> might be a bit biased -:)

I think there's a good case for DL having application build modules.  So 
you can custom build your install iso including or not the apps of your 
choice.  Using a handy-dandy point and click gui of course :-)  Then new 
apps like this can be offered more easily.

The main problem is that all apps sit in ram on the running system 
whether they are used or not.  Bloat is a bigger issue for DL than for 
HDD based distributions because of this.

Dick

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] TimeDicer

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

  Well TimeDicer <http://www.timedicer.co.uk> is written by me so I 
might be a bit biased -:)

TimeDicer is a wrapper for rdiff-backup 
<http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/>, which is a really cool backup 
utility. rdiff-backup was requested for addition to DL a little time ago 
(https://sourceforge.net/apps/mantisbt/devil-linux/view.php?id=8). 
rdiff-backup itself is a python script so I think (though I am not an 
expert) that a user could add it, but it also depends upon the librsync 
library <https://sourceforge.net/projects/librsync/files/> which is not 
provided in DL. The first step is for one of the gods (demons?) of DL to 
add librsync into the build (I think this would include the rdiff tester 
program), with or without rdiff-backup itself. Sadly I don't think this 
will happen in the current cycle release (1.4) because it is 'frozen' 
but who knows maybe for 1.5?

As well as raising the possibility of making DL the OS of choice for 
TimeDicer Server, having rdiff-backup would also allow easy and 
efficient backup from DL machines using rdiff-backup. (rdiff-backup has 
to run on both client and server, like rsync.) At the moment this can be 
achieved by a workaround (the remote backup [e.g. TimeDicer] server - 
running Ubuntu, say - mounts the DL /home using sshfs and can then run 
rdiff-backup on it), but this is slow and involves a lot of network traffic.

DL already includes Bacula <http://www.bacula.org/en/>, which is an 
alternative backup program.

Dominic

On 06/11/2010 06:17, Stephen Butler wrote:
> Any thoughts on including timedicer in devil linux ?
>
> Remush.
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[Devil-Linux-discuss] Time Dicer

[Stephen B. <ste...@ho...>]

Any thoughts on including timedicer in devil linux ?
 
Remush. 		 	   		  

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

Thanks Heiko, I will check it out.

Dominic

On 04/11/2010 19:18, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
> Dominic,
>
> almost forgot to mention this.
> Since you're said your website is under attack right now, take a look
> at http://www.modsecurity.org/ , it is included in DL.
> It takes a bit to set it up and may require quite a bit of
> fine-tuning, but it served me well.
>

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Dominic,

almost forgot to mention this.
Since you're said your website is under attack right now, take a look  
at http://www.modsecurity.org/ , it is included in DL.
It takes a bit to set it up and may require quite a bit of  
fine-tuning, but it served me well.

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[Devil-Linux-discuss] samba slow to respond

[Stephen B. <ste...@ho...>]

adding the hostname along with the ip address in /etc/hosts did the trick.
In windows I always use a computers hostname to network, as it usually just works ok. NOTE: our network does not have a dns, its a simple windows workgroup(peer to peer networking).
thanks to everyone who had some advice to offer :)
Remush 		 	   		  

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] samba slow to connect.

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

I'm glad you are solving the problem.

Interesting about /etc/hosts. I too have a line in my DL /etc/hosts file 
listing the machine's external ip and its network name (same as HOSTNAME 
specified in DL setup), but I don't think this should be needed. Like 
you I have disabled it. So far so good but I will see if it causes any 
problems later.

Does your local lan use a simple peer-to-peer aka workgroup setup? If 
so, in /etc/samba/smb.conf, what do you have set for WORKGROUP=? This 
name should match the name of your workgroup as found on a Windows 
computer (Start, right-click '[My ]Computer', Computer Name, Workgroup). 
The default name depending on your version of Windows is MSHOME or 
WORKGROUP. If the WORKGROUP setting in smb.conf matches this then the 
name of the samba machine (the 'HOSTNAME' set in DL's setup program) 
should work and work quickly as a way for Windows computers to find your 
DL machine, without having to mess with /etc/hosts. I think.

Dominic

On 03/11/2010 05:32, Stephen Butler wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for their great advice !!! :)
> --------------------------------------------------
> I have selected vmware service in setup.
> --------------------------------------------------
> I also realised that I was using the linux file server like a windows 
> xp file server.
>
> with the following connection method
>
> \\fileserverNAME\shareNAME <file://%5C%5CfileserverNAME%5CshareNAME>
>
> instead of \\ipADRESS\shareNAME <file://%5C%5CipADRESS%5CshareNAME>
>
> When I try connecting with the machines ip address the response from 
> samba was only a second or two.
>
> So... I set my hostname for the linux file server along with its ip 
> address in /etc/hosts file.
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> I realise that my problem solving method is flawed, I should check if 
> setting vmware service in setup is sufficient without the change to 
> the /etc/hosts file, and vice versa
>
> When I get home tonight I will delete my entry from the /etc/hosts 
> file and try again.
>
> Will report on my findings tomorrow.
>
> Remush

[Devil-Linux-discuss] samba slow to connect.

[Stephen B. <ste...@ho...>]

Thanks to everyone for their great advice !!! :)
--------------------------------------------------
I have selected vmware service in setup.
--------------------------------------------------
I also realised that I was using the linux file server like a windows xp file server.
 
with the following connection method
 
\\fileserverNAME\shareNAME
 
instead of \\ipADRESS\shareNAME
 
When I try connecting with the machines ip address the response from samba was only a second or two.
 
So... I set my hostname for the linux file server along with its ip address in /etc/hosts file.
--------------------------------------------------
 
I realise that my problem solving method is flawed, I should check if setting vmware service in setup is sufficient without the change to the /etc/hosts file, and vice versa
 
When I get home tonight I will delete my entry from the /etc/hosts file and try again.
 
Will report on my findings tomorrow.
 
Remush 		 	   		  

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

OK I did that. And I got the firewall working...

Dominic

On 02/11/2010 15:48, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> yeah sorry, we can't add anything new until the final 1.4 is released.
>
> Please add it to Mantis as a feature request, seems like it may be a 
> good addition to DL .
>
> Heiko
>
> Quoting Dominic Raferd <dl...@ed...>:
>
>> Thanks, Paolo, but I had not realised until just now that iptables is 
>> FIREWALL in DL setup program. And the rules are (by inspection of 
>> /etc/init.d/firewall) at /etc/init.d/firewall.rules which runs as a 
>> script to start the firewall.
>>
>> Also (because my DL webserver is suffering an external attack) it 
>> would be helpful to have mod_evasive, which is not available in DL. 
>> Could this be added, Heiko? I guess maybe it has to wait for 1.5 release?
>>
>> Dominic
>>
>> On 02/11/10 10:21, Paolo Spizzirri wrote:
>>> I don't remember the consolle command, but after you modified the 
>>> devil linux configuration, you can start the configuration consolle 
>>> with setup and the save config.
>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> On 11/02/2010 11:09 AM, Dominic Raferd wrote:
>>>> I am using iptables for the first time. How/where do I save my
>>>> configuration so that it will survive a reboot under DL? Does it have to
>>>> be in the form of a shell script that runs at boot time or can I save
>>>> the output from iptables-save?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Dominic
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey, 

yeah sorry, we can't add anything new until the final 1.4 is released. 

Please add it to Mantis as a feature request, seems like it may be a good addition to DL .

Heiko

Quoting Dominic Raferd <dl...@ed...>: 

> Thanks, Paolo, but I had not realised until just now that iptables is FIREWALL in DL setup program. And the rules are (by inspection of /etc/init.d/firewall) at /etc/init.d/firewall.rules which runs as a script to start the firewall.
>
> Also (because my DL webserver is suffering an external attack) it would be helpful to have mod_evasive, which is not available in DL. Could this be added, Heiko? I guess maybe it has to wait for 1.5 release?
>
> Dominic
>
> On 02/11/10 10:21, Paolo Spizzirri wrote: 
>
> > I don't remember the consolle command, but after you modified the devil linux configuration, you can start the configuration consolle with setup and the save config.
> > Paolo
> >
> > On 11/02/2010 11:09 AM, Dominic Raferd wrote: 
> >
> > > I am using iptables for the first time. How/where do I save my configuration so that it will survive a reboot under DL? Does it have to be in the form of a shell script that runs at boot time or can I save the output from iptables-save?ThanksDominic

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

Thanks, Paolo, but I had not realised until just now that iptables is 
FIREWALL in DL setup program. And the rules are (by inspection of 
/etc/init.d/firewall) at /etc/init.d/firewall.rules which runs as a 
script to start the firewall.

Also (because my DL webserver is suffering an external attack) it would 
be helpful to have mod_evasive, which is not available in DL. Could this 
be added, Heiko? I guess maybe it has to wait for 1.5 release?

Dominic

On 02/11/10 10:21, Paolo Spizzirri wrote:
> I don't remember the consolle command, but after you modified the 
> devil linux configuration, you can start the configuration consolle 
> with setup and the save config.
> Paolo
>
> On 11/02/2010 11:09 AM, Dominic Raferd wrote:
>> I am using iptables for the first time. How/where do I save my
>> configuration so that it will survive a reboot under DL? Does it have to
>> be in the form of a shell script that runs at boot time or can I save
>> the output from iptables-save?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dominic

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Paolo S. <pao...@gm...>]

I don't remember the consolle command, but after you modified the devil linux configuration, you can start the 
configuration consolle with setup and the save config.
Paolo

On 11/02/2010 11:09 AM, Dominic Raferd wrote:
> I am using iptables for the first time. How/where do I save my
> configuration so that it will survive a reboot under DL? Does it have to
> be in the form of a shell script that runs at boot time or can I save
> the output from iptables-save?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dominic
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[Devil-Linux-discuss] iptables - how to save?

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

I am using iptables for the first time. How/where do I save my 
configuration so that it will survive a reboot under DL? Does it have to 
be in the form of a shell script that runs at boot time or can I save 
the output from iptables-save?

Thanks

Dominic

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] serial access enabled by default

[mailing d. <mai...@gm...>]

Thanks a lot.

I will try it.

2010/10/29 Serge Leschinsky <ser...@gm...>:
> The command is the following:
>
>    mkisofs -b boot/isolinux.bin -c boot/boot.cat \
>         -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
>         -o /tmp/new_bootcd.iso \
>         -J -l -L  -R  \
>         -p "he...@de..." \
>         -P "Devil Linux Custom CD" \
>         -A "Devil-Linux v1.4" \
>         -iso-level 2 \
>         -quiet -z /PREPARED_IMAGE/
>
>
>
>
> There is a script for that -  /config/scripts/custom-cd.
> It's the simplest way to modify ISO. Also you can check how it does the job and
> modify it/ or do it manually.
>
> Serge
>
> On 10/28/2010 12:16 AM, mailing dl2 wrote:
>> Look quite simple but can you just tell me which is teh exact command
>> to use to recreate the iso.
>>
>> I have never used mkisofs.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
>> 2010/10/28 Serge Leschinsky<ser...@gm...>:
>>> On 10/27/2010 11:12 PM, mailing dl2 wrote:
>>>> I do not see any errors when running install-on-usb script.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you did not understand what I wrote.
>>>>
>>> Looks like that.
>>>
>>>> The configuration which is copied in the boot media (on the same
>>>> directory than bootcd.iso) is correctly modified (securetty and
>>>> inittab).
>>>> But if you delete it (for the reason I mentioned before) and you boot
>>>> with no configuration, the securetty and inittab (comes from
>>>> bootcd.iso?) are configured to disable serial prompt.
>>>>
>>>> How can I/we change that?
>>>
>>> You need to modify the default configuration, i.e.
>>> mount iso, copy the content, modify /cd-etc/* (securetty and inittab) or
>>> /config/etc-mods.tar.bz2, recreate iso.
>>>
>>>
>>> Serge
>>>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] serial access enabled by default

[Serge L. <ser...@gm...>]

The command is the following:

    mkisofs -b boot/isolinux.bin -c boot/boot.cat \
         -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
         -o /tmp/new_bootcd.iso \
         -J -l -L  -R  \
         -p "he...@de..." \
         -P "Devil Linux Custom CD" \
         -A "Devil-Linux v1.4" \
         -iso-level 2 \
         -quiet -z /PREPARED_IMAGE/
 



There is a script for that -  /config/scripts/custom-cd.
It's the simplest way to modify ISO. Also you can check how it does the job and 
modify it/ or do it manually.

Serge

On 10/28/2010 12:16 AM, mailing dl2 wrote:
> Look quite simple but can you just tell me which is teh exact command
> to use to recreate the iso.
>
> I have never used mkisofs.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> 2010/10/28 Serge Leschinsky<ser...@gm...>:
>> On 10/27/2010 11:12 PM, mailing dl2 wrote:
>>> I do not see any errors when running install-on-usb script.
>>>
>>> Maybe you did not understand what I wrote.
>>>
>> Looks like that.
>>
>>> The configuration which is copied in the boot media (on the same
>>> directory than bootcd.iso) is correctly modified (securetty and
>>> inittab).
>>> But if you delete it (for the reason I mentioned before) and you boot
>>> with no configuration, the securetty and inittab (comes from
>>> bootcd.iso?) are configured to disable serial prompt.
>>>
>>> How can I/we change that?
>>
>> You need to modify the default configuration, i.e.
>> mount iso, copy the content, modify /cd-etc/* (securetty and inittab) or
>> /config/etc-mods.tar.bz2, recreate iso.
>>
>>
>> Serge
>>
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>> Create new apps&  games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in  U.S. and Canada
>> $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing
>> Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] windows slow to connect to sambe

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

Ah yes, our samba is stand-alone, hence I don't need winbindd.

Another couple of ideas for Remush:

    * have a look at the syslog for samba-related messages:
      tail -n 1000 /var/log/messages|grep "smbd\|nmbd\|winbindd"
    * I have reactivated a section on the tutorial webpage
      http://www.edendevelopments.co.uk/dlsetup#tweakingsamba which
      tells how to add some linux groups and map SIDs and ntgroups to them.

Dominic


On 29/10/2010 11:38, John Jore wrote:
> Hi and afaik, winbindd is the one to talk to windows Domain Controllers for AD authentication. Without it you're running in stand-alone mode. Afaik. I could be wrong.
>
> One other element to check is the negotiations of security protocol to use. SMB/CIFS has evolved over time and I can't remember what the various Windows OS'es require and/or prefer NTLM2 vs. NTLM vs. ?!? etc. A delay _could_ be due to one protocol failing and the time it takes to fallback to the next. If you get fast transfers after the connection is established, it could be this. Just a suggestion, again, I could be very wrong.
>
>
> JJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dominic Raferd [mailto:dl...@ed...]
> Sent: 29. oktober 2010 15:17
> To: dev...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] windows slow to connect to sambe
>
> Hi Remush
>
> It's my tutorial so if there is something wrong I'd like to help you
> (and improve the tutorial).
>
> I presume you mean you are running DL as a VM under VMWare Workstation
> 7? I run DL in a real machine. My smb.conf is almost identical to the
> one on the web page. Connection is fast.
>
> A couple of ideas, please try and let us know how you get on:
>
>      * Did you select/load the VMWARE module in Setup? This gives better
>        performance when running DL under VMWare VM. You can start it
>        manually with '/etc/init.d/vmware start'
>      * Samba has 3 daemons: smbd, nmbd and winbindd. I don't use
>        winbindd, in fact I edit it out of /etc/init.d/samba. I don't know
>        what it does but it is nothing useful for me and it adds lots of
>        error messages to /var/log/messages. You could try removing it too
>        (e.g. with 'pkill winbindd') and see if it helps.
>      * Try adding:
>        smb ports = 139
>        to the [global] section and see if it helps. I have this line in
>        mine. It prevent samba listening on port 445.
>      * Can you test speed of any other network connections to the DL
>        machine? A script here<http://www.alecjacobson.com/weblog/?p=635>
>        might help with testing speed of ssh connections; my results,
>        using cygwin from a machine on our lan to our local DL Samba
>        machine are:
>           Upload speed:   2648.80 kB/s
>           Download speed: 10835.98 kB/s
>        If you get similar speeds for ssh, but still very slow connections
>        under samba, it tends to confirm that the problem lies with Samba.
>      * Which version of DL are you using? [I am still using 1.4RC5, I hit
>        snags when I tried 1.4RC6 and because it is a working server and I
>        was short of time I stepped back to 1.4RC5 (so easy with DL!) It
>        is possible (though unlikely) that there is actually a problem
>        with Samba in 1.4RC6.]
>
> Dominic
>
> On 29/10/2010 01:54, Stephen Butler wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been following this tutorial:
>> http://www.edendevelopments.co.uk/dlsetup to learn how to setup a
>> devil-linux samba file server for our community centre.
>>
>> At the moment, i'm setting it up using vmware 7 on my laptop, using
>> NAT network in vmware.
>> It takes more than 3 minutes to connect to the samba server in vmware.
>>
>> I've followed the tutorial exactly so far, and was wondering if anyone
>> has any suggestions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Remush
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] windows slow to connect to sambe

[John J. <jo...@jo...>]

Hi and afaik, winbindd is the one to talk to windows Domain Controllers for AD authentication. Without it you're running in stand-alone mode. Afaik. I could be wrong.

One other element to check is the negotiations of security protocol to use. SMB/CIFS has evolved over time and I can't remember what the various Windows OS'es require and/or prefer NTLM2 vs. NTLM vs. ?!? etc. A delay _could_ be due to one protocol failing and the time it takes to fallback to the next. If you get fast transfers after the connection is established, it could be this. Just a suggestion, again, I could be very wrong.


JJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Dominic Raferd [mailto:dl...@ed...] 
Sent: 29. oktober 2010 15:17
To: dev...@li...
Subject: Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] windows slow to connect to sambe

Hi Remush

It's my tutorial so if there is something wrong I'd like to help you 
(and improve the tutorial).

I presume you mean you are running DL as a VM under VMWare Workstation 
7? I run DL in a real machine. My smb.conf is almost identical to the 
one on the web page. Connection is fast.

A couple of ideas, please try and let us know how you get on:

    * Did you select/load the VMWARE module in Setup? This gives better
      performance when running DL under VMWare VM. You can start it
      manually with '/etc/init.d/vmware start'
    * Samba has 3 daemons: smbd, nmbd and winbindd. I don't use
      winbindd, in fact I edit it out of /etc/init.d/samba. I don't know
      what it does but it is nothing useful for me and it adds lots of
      error messages to /var/log/messages. You could try removing it too
      (e.g. with 'pkill winbindd') and see if it helps.
    * Try adding:
      smb ports = 139
      to the [global] section and see if it helps. I have this line in
      mine. It prevent samba listening on port 445.
    * Can you test speed of any other network connections to the DL
      machine? A script here <http://www.alecjacobson.com/weblog/?p=635>
      might help with testing speed of ssh connections; my results,
      using cygwin from a machine on our lan to our local DL Samba
      machine are:
         Upload speed:   2648.80 kB/s
         Download speed: 10835.98 kB/s
      If you get similar speeds for ssh, but still very slow connections
      under samba, it tends to confirm that the problem lies with Samba.
    * Which version of DL are you using? [I am still using 1.4RC5, I hit
      snags when I tried 1.4RC6 and because it is a working server and I
      was short of time I stepped back to 1.4RC5 (so easy with DL!) It
      is possible (though unlikely) that there is actually a problem
      with Samba in 1.4RC6.]

Dominic

On 29/10/2010 01:54, Stephen Butler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been following this tutorial: 
> http://www.edendevelopments.co.uk/dlsetup to learn how to setup a 
> devil-linux samba file server for our community centre.
>
> At the moment, i'm setting it up using vmware 7 on my laptop, using 
> NAT network in vmware.
> It takes more than 3 minutes to connect to the samba server in vmware.
>
> I've followed the tutorial exactly so far, and was wondering if anyone 
> has any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
> Remush

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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] windows slow to connect to sambe

[Dominic R. <dl...@ed...>]

Hi Remush

It's my tutorial so if there is something wrong I'd like to help you 
(and improve the tutorial).

I presume you mean you are running DL as a VM under VMWare Workstation 
7? I run DL in a real machine. My smb.conf is almost identical to the 
one on the web page. Connection is fast.

A couple of ideas, please try and let us know how you get on:

    * Did you select/load the VMWARE module in Setup? This gives better
      performance when running DL under VMWare VM. You can start it
      manually with '/etc/init.d/vmware start'
    * Samba has 3 daemons: smbd, nmbd and winbindd. I don't use
      winbindd, in fact I edit it out of /etc/init.d/samba. I don't know
      what it does but it is nothing useful for me and it adds lots of
      error messages to /var/log/messages. You could try removing it too
      (e.g. with 'pkill winbindd') and see if it helps.
    * Try adding:
      smb ports = 139
      to the [global] section and see if it helps. I have this line in
      mine. It prevent samba listening on port 445.
    * Can you test speed of any other network connections to the DL
      machine? A script here <http://www.alecjacobson.com/weblog/?p=635>
      might help with testing speed of ssh connections; my results,
      using cygwin from a machine on our lan to our local DL Samba
      machine are:
         Upload speed:   2648.80 kB/s
         Download speed: 10835.98 kB/s
      If you get similar speeds for ssh, but still very slow connections
      under samba, it tends to confirm that the problem lies with Samba.
    * Which version of DL are you using? [I am still using 1.4RC5, I hit
      snags when I tried 1.4RC6 and because it is a working server and I
      was short of time I stepped back to 1.4RC5 (so easy with DL!) It
      is possible (though unlikely) that there is actually a problem
      with Samba in 1.4RC6.]

Dominic

On 29/10/2010 01:54, Stephen Butler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been following this tutorial: 
> http://www.edendevelopments.co.uk/dlsetup to learn how to setup a 
> devil-linux samba file server for our community centre.
>
> At the moment, i'm setting it up using vmware 7 on my laptop, using 
> NAT network in vmware.
> It takes more than 3 minutes to connect to the samba server in vmware.
>
> I've followed the tutorial exactly so far, and was wondering if anyone 
> has any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
> Remush

[Devil-Linux-discuss] windows slow to connect to sambe

[Stephen B. <ste...@ho...>]

Hi all,
I've been following this tutorial: http://www.edendevelopments.co.uk/dlsetup to learn how to setup a devil-linux samba file server for our community centre.
At the moment, i'm setting it up using vmware 7 on my laptop, using NAT network in vmware.It takes more than 3 minutes to connect to the samba server in vmware.
I've followed the tutorial exactly so far, and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions.
Regards,Remush
 		 	   		  

Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] serial access enabled by default

[mailing d. <mai...@gm...>]

Look quite simple but can you just tell me which is teh exact command
to use to recreate the iso.

I have never used mkisofs.

Thanks a lot.

2010/10/28 Serge Leschinsky <ser...@gm...>:
> On 10/27/2010 11:12 PM, mailing dl2 wrote:
>> I do not see any errors when running install-on-usb script.
>>
>> Maybe you did not understand what I wrote.
>>
> Looks like that.
>
>> The configuration which is copied in the boot media (on the same
>> directory than bootcd.iso) is correctly modified (securetty and
>> inittab).
>> But if you delete it (for the reason I mentioned before) and you boot
>> with no configuration, the securetty and inittab (comes from
>> bootcd.iso?) are configured to disable serial prompt.
>>
>> How can I/we change that?
>
> You need to modify the default configuration, i.e.
> mount iso, copy the content, modify /cd-etc/* (securetty and inittab) or
> /config/etc-mods.tar.bz2, recreate iso.
>
>
> Serge
>
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Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] serial access enabled by default

[Serge L. <ser...@gm...>]

On 10/27/2010 11:12 PM, mailing dl2 wrote:
> I do not see any errors when running install-on-usb script.
>
> Maybe you did not understand what I wrote.
>
Looks like that.

> The configuration which is copied in the boot media (on the same
> directory than bootcd.iso) is correctly modified (securetty and
> inittab).
> But if you delete it (for the reason I mentioned before) and you boot
> with no configuration, the securetty and inittab (comes from
> bootcd.iso?) are configured to disable serial prompt.
>
> How can I/we change that?

You need to modify the default configuration, i.e.
mount iso, copy the content, modify /cd-etc/* (securetty and inittab) or 
/config/etc-mods.tar.bz2, recreate iso.


Serge