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> > >lvm

Correction, I left LVM as optional because it installs a kernel patch.

 - BS

On 07/17/2003 04:37:35 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> I already did a few of those,
>
>No you didn't!  Not as far as I could tell anyway.  :-)

Yeah sure.....

>> but go ahead and do the rest
>
>I did them ALL!  Don't try to take credit for my work!  ;-)
>(however, you can take credit for my mistakes if you like ;)

I'm almost certain that I did a few of those, I think you're just takin=
g
credit for my work.... ;-)
OK, I could be wrong, but that almost never happens. ;-)

>These are on CD and no longer optionally compiled
>(since they are small):
>
>> >diffutils
>> >ethtool
>> >gnupg
>> >joe
>> >lftp
>> >lvm
>> >lynx
>> >mc
>> >mtools
>> >nail
>> >passwdgen
>> >pciutils
>> >raidtools
>> >rcs
>> >rpm
>> >sysstat
>> >tcpdump
>> >usbutils
>> >wget
>
>These now are on CD and still optionally compiled,
>because they are big:
>(I can remove the optional part if you like)
Leave 'em optional

>> >postgresql_client
>> >mysql_client
>> >openldap_client
>
>Bind (overall) is still optional, only utils were moved to CD.
>Wasn't sure if I should move the daemon or not, so I didn't.
>
>> >isc_bind_utils

Leave that for the meantime as it is.

Shoot, I need some time to work on the chroot jail stuff. I'm pretty
certain that this is broken now.

cya
  Heiko
=

> I already did a few of those, 

No you didn't!  Not as far as I could tell anyway.  :-)

> but go ahead and do the rest

I did them ALL!  Don't try to take credit for my work!  ;-)
(however, you can take credit for my mistakes if you like ;)

These are on CD and no longer optionally compiled 
(since they are small):

> >diffutils
> >ethtool
> >gnupg
> >joe
> >lftp
> >lvm
> >lynx
> >mc
> >mtools
> >nail
> >passwdgen
> >pciutils
> >raidtools
> >rcs
> >rpm
> >sysstat
> >tcpdump
> >usbutils
> >wget

These now are on CD and still optionally compiled,
because they are big:
(I can remove the optional part if you like)

> >postgresql_client
> >mysql_client
> >openldap_client

Bind (overall) is still optional, only utils were moved to CD.
Wasn't sure if I should move the daemon or not, so I didn't.

> >isc_bind_utils

I already did a few of those, but go ahead and do the rest

Heiko

On 07/17/2003 02:00:07 PM Bruce Smith wrote:
>I took a quick look though the optional packages for interactive
>commands and came up with the following list.  I'm thinking these shou=
ld
>just install to $CDDIR all the time and not be optional any longer.
>
>Any additions/subtractions form this list?
>
>Anyone else working on moving any of them to $CDDIR?
>
>Anyone object if I move them?
>
>diffutils
>ethtool
>gnupg
>isc_bind_utils
>joe
>lftp
>lvm
>lynx
>mc
>mtools
>nail
>mysql_client
>openldap_client
>passwdgen
>pciutils
>postgresql_client
>raidtools
>rcs
>rpm
>sysstat
>tcpdump
>usbutils
>wget
>
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I took a quick look though the optional packages for interactive
commands and came up with the following list.  I'm thinking these should
just install to $CDDIR all the time and not be optional any longer.

Any additions/subtractions form this list?

Anyone else working on moving any of them to $CDDIR?

Anyone object if I move them?

diffutils
ethtool
gnupg
isc_bind_utils
joe
lftp
lvm
lynx
mc
mtools
nail
mysql_client
openldap_client
passwdgen
pciutils
postgresql_client
raidtools
rcs
rpm
sysstat
tcpdump
usbutils
wget

> I just saw you change cipe to run off the CD, how is that going?

I haven't installed the new CD on my firewall yet.
I'll keep you posted ...

 - BS

Bruce,

I just saw you change cipe to run off the CD, how is that going?

cya
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On 07/17/2003 11:43:52 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>My 1.4 Athlon has 512MB, my 1.7 P4 has 1GB of memory.
>
>Did I mention the Athlon compiled everything 5 minutes faster?  :-)

It did? Fascinating ....
And yes, you did mention it. ;-)

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On 07/17/2003 10:43:56 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >> I keep on looking at this, every couple of month:
>> >http://bootsplash.org/
>> >>
>> >> Don't you think it would  be cool?
>> >
>> >Yes.  It looks very cool.  Does the graphic go away after boot?
>> >I don't think I'd want tux staring at me all the time I'm doing
>> >stuff on the console.  :-)
>>
>> It looks that way, we would only use it during the boot process.
>
>It appears this could cause us problems when we upgrade to the
>2.6 kernel.  See FAQ #4.  http://bootsplash.org/faq.html
>
>It also may cause problems on PC's with real cheap video cards
>(that can only do 8 bit color)  See FAQ #6.
>
>Also problem with ATI cards?  FAQ #7.

Screw it. Let's rather add some more functionality.

cya
  Heiko
=

> > I wonder how long a 3Ghz P4 w/hyperthreading would take to compile? :-)
> >   
> Send me your .config and I'll tell you on a P4 ht 2.6/800 

It's attached.  I think it's the same one Heiko posted last week.

You might want to go into make menuconfig, Build System Configuration,
and increase the Parallel Build Jobs number to take advantage of your
hyperthreading.

I'll be very interested in your result, to help me determine if I should
upgrade.  Thanks!!!

> ... but you must consider the efficiency of your hd sub-system (udma, 
> u2w scsi , 7200 rpm, 10000 rpm ...)
> before making any comparisson as it is intensive with disk I/O ...

Understood.  My Athlon has a 3ware SCSI-to-IDE controller with 7200 RPM
disks.  My 1.7 P4 has an Adaptec SCSI controller with 7200 RPM disks.

>  amount of ram should influence too

My 1.4 Athlon has 512MB, my 1.7 P4 has 1GB of memory.

Did I mention the Athlon compiled everything 5 minutes faster?  :-)

 - BS

Bruce Smith a écrit:

>>>Maybe you should start fresh because you're NOT seeing the problem? :-)
>>>      
>>>
>>OK, I'll wipe out everything on my test machine and try it out later today.
>>    
>>
>
>Update from CVS first, and you won't see the problem either way!  :-)
>
>  
>
>>>Now maybe I can quit spinning my wheels on this issue and do some real
>>>DL development!  :-)
>>>      
>>>
>>Yeah do some work, lazy ass. ;-)
>>    
>>
>
>No doubt!  :-)    I need a faster machine ... a mrproper compile takes
>5-6 hours on both of my boxes, a make clean install takes over 1/2 hour.
>
>I ran them with the "time" command last night, and was surprised to see
>that my 1.4Ghz Athlon compiled about 5 minutes FASTER than my 1.7Ghz P4.
>
>I wonder how long a 3Ghz P4 w/hyperthreading would take to compile? :-)
>  
>
Send me your .config and I'll tell you on a P4 ht 2.6/800 ... but you 
must consider the efficiency of your hd sub-system (udma,  u2w scsi , 
7200 rpm, 10000 rpm ...)
before making any comparisson as it is intensive with disk I/O ... 
amount of ram should influence too

cya

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On 07/17/2003 10:15:36 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> >Maybe you should start fresh because you're NOT seeing the problem?=

>:-)
>>
>> OK, I'll wipe out everything on my test machine and try it out later=

>today.
>
>Update from CVS first, and you won't see the problem either way!  :-)

Then I just skip this step. ;-)

>> >Now maybe I can quit spinning my wheels on this issue and do some
>real
>> >DL development!  :-)
>>
>> Yeah do some work, lazy ass. ;-)
>
>No doubt!  :-)    I need a faster machine ... a mrproper compile takes=

>5-6 hours on both of my boxes, a make clean install takes over 1/2 hou=
r.
>
>I ran them with the "time" command last night, and was surprised to se=
e
>that my 1.4Ghz Athlon compiled about 5 minutes FASTER than my 1.7Ghz P=
4.
>
>I wonder how long a 3Ghz P4 w/hyperthreading would take to compile? :-=
)

Good question. My fastest box is a AMD 1.5 (or 1800+).

cya
  Heiko

P.S. time for lunch, I'm hungry
=

> >> I keep on looking at this, every couple of month:
> >http://bootsplash.org/
> >>
> >> Don't you think it would  be cool?
> >
> >Yes.  It looks very cool.  Does the graphic go away after boot?
> >I don't think I'd want tux staring at me all the time I'm doing
> >stuff on the console.  :-)
> 
> It looks that way, we would only use it during the boot process.

It appears this could cause us problems when we upgrade to the 
2.6 kernel.  See FAQ #4.  http://bootsplash.org/faq.html

It also may cause problems on PC's with real cheap video cards 
(that can only do 8 bit color)  See FAQ #6.

Also problem with ATI cards?  FAQ #7.

 - BS

> >Maybe you should start fresh because you're NOT seeing the problem? :-)
> 
> OK, I'll wipe out everything on my test machine and try it out later today.

Update from CVS first, and you won't see the problem either way!  :-)

> >Now maybe I can quit spinning my wheels on this issue and do some real
> >DL development!  :-)
> 
> Yeah do some work, lazy ass. ;-)

No doubt!  :-)    I need a faster machine ... a mrproper compile takes
5-6 hours on both of my boxes, a make clean install takes over 1/2 hour.

I ran them with the "time" command last night, and was surprised to see
that my 1.4Ghz Athlon compiled about 5 minutes FASTER than my 1.7Ghz P4.

I wonder how long a 3Ghz P4 w/hyperthreading would take to compile? :-)

 - BS

> >> I also started to investigate what the best (and safest and
> >flexiblest) way
> >> would be to run a higher textmode resolution.
> >
> >I often thought that would be nice too.
> >
> >Is there some way to change the resolution with a command after the
> >system has booted?  (the safest way, if it's possible)
>
> I don't know much about this yet. What would like is that you specify what
> you want in /etc/sysconfig/config and we set it during the boot process for
> all consoles.

The only way I know to change it is in the grub/lilo MBR during the
initial bootup, and /etc/sysconfig/config doesn't exist at that point 
in time (except tar'ed up on diskette/USB).

We'd have to find some command line way of changing it.

Just don't break my setup script screwing with the resolutions!  ;-)

 - BS

On 07/17/2003 09:48:17 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> I keep on looking at this, every couple of month:
>http://bootsplash.org/
>>
>> Don't you think it would  be cool?
>
>Yes.  It looks very cool.  Does the graphic go away after boot?
>I don't think I'd want tux staring at me all the time I'm doing
>stuff on the console.  :-)

It looks that way, we would only use it during the boot process.

>> I also started to investigate what the best (and safest and
>flexiblest) way
>> would be to run a higher textmode resolution.
>
>I often thought that would be nice too.
>
>Is there some way to change the resolution with a command after the
>system has booted?  (the safest way, if it's possible)
>

I don't know much about this yet. What would like is that you specify w=
hat
you want in /etc/sysconfig/config and we set it during the boot process=
 for
all consoles.

cya
  Heiko
=

On 07/17/2003 09:38:20 AM Bruce Smith wrote:
>> > I noticed I was getting "(none)" as my hostname on my latest ISO.
>> > The links in /etc/init.d/rc?.d/* are mostly empty, except for two.=

>> > Here is a partial "tar tvjf /cdrom/config/etc.tar.bz2" :
>>
>> I'm sorry to say this, but my build looks very good here.
>> I didn't see any problems.
>>
>> I would suggest that you throw everything (except the /src directory=
)
>> away and start from scratch.
>
>OK, I started from scratch, except for the src directory.  I even
>downloaded all the cvs stuff fresh, and I started a fresh compile last=

>night before going to bed.  This morning, I still have the problem.
>
>The fact remains that I found a bug in the firewall script yesterday
>that is causing this problem.  I think it is some combination of optio=
ns
>that I'm selecting different than yours, causing the problem to appear=

>on mine and not yours.  (I did change a couple things in your .config)=

>
>Maybe you should start fresh because you're NOT seeing the problem? :-=
)

OK, I'll wipe out everything on my test machine and try it out later to=
day.

>>From what I learned about insserv there is definitely a big in our
>script.  And no, I can't answer why it hasn't happened until now.
>
>My fix is committed to the firewall script.  (as in previous email).
>
>Now maybe I can quit spinning my wheels on this issue and do some real=

>DL development!  :-)

Yeah do some work, lazy ass. ;-)

cya
  Heiko
=

> I keep on looking at this, every couple of month: http://bootsplash.org/
> 
> Don't you think it would  be cool?

Yes.  It looks very cool.  Does the graphic go away after boot?
I don't think I'd want tux staring at me all the time I'm doing 
stuff on the console.  :-)

> I also started to investigate what the best (and safest and flexiblest) way
> would be to run a higher textmode resolution.

I often thought that would be nice too.

Is there some way to change the resolution with a command after the
system has booted?  (the safest way, if it's possible)

 - BS

> > I noticed I was getting "(none)" as my hostname on my latest ISO.
> > The links in /etc/init.d/rc?.d/* are mostly empty, except for two.
> > Here is a partial "tar tvjf /cdrom/config/etc.tar.bz2" :
> 
> I'm sorry to say this, but my build looks very good here.
> I didn't see any problems.
> 
> I would suggest that you throw everything (except the /src directory) 
> away and start from scratch.

OK, I started from scratch, except for the src directory.  I even
downloaded all the cvs stuff fresh, and I started a fresh compile last
night before going to bed.  This morning, I still have the problem.

The fact remains that I found a bug in the firewall script yesterday
that is causing this problem.  I think it is some combination of options
that I'm selecting different than yours, causing the problem to appear
on mine and not yours.  (I did change a couple things in your .config)

Maybe you should start fresh because you're NOT seeing the problem? :-)

>From what I learned about insserv there is definitely a big in our
script.  And no, I can't answer why it hasn't happened until now.

My fix is committed to the firewall script.  (as in previous email).

Now maybe I can quit spinning my wheels on this issue and do some real
DL development!  :-)

 - BS

Hey guys,

I keep on looking at this, every couple of month: http://bootsplash.org=
/

Don't you think it would  be cool?

I also started to investigate what the best (and safest and flexiblest)=
 way
would be to run a higher textmode resolution.

cya
  Heiko
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Bruce Smith wrote:
> I noticed I was getting "(none)" as my hostname on my latest ISO.
> The links in /etc/init.d/rc?.d/* are mostly empty, except for two.
> Here is a partial "tar tvjf /cdrom/config/etc.tar.bz2" :

I'm sorry to say this, but my build looks very good here.
I didn't see any problems.

I would suggest that you throw everything (except the /src directory) 
away and start from scratch.

Heiko

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