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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-834285 ] add kbd

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Bugs item #834285, was opened at 2003-11-01 15:29
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Category: Base System
Group: v1.1
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: add kbd

Initial Comment:
compile our own to make sure we're up-to-date

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-833445 ] separate heimdal

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Bugs item #833445, was opened at 2003-10-30 19:58
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Category: Build System
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: separate heimdal

Initial Comment:
heimdal overwrites some include files
check if subfolder in /usr/include is enough, otherwise
do like old krb5 and install in tmp/LIBS/heimdal.
Other programs have to be pointed to this folder.

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[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-832398 ] heimdal helpfile for menuconfig missing

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Bugs item #832398, was opened at 2003-10-29 09:23
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Category: Configuration / Scripts
Group: None
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: heimdal helpfile for menuconfig missing

Initial Comment:
I guess somebody stole it. ;-)


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[Devil-linux-develop] kernel config

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Hey,

when you do stuff which affects the Kernel config and you have to enable 
a bunch of options, check out the patch-o-matic script.
You can see in there, how to enable options which start with the same name.

This helps avoiding maintaining  config_something, which are always 
outdated.....

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] console fonts and encoding

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Diego Torres wrote:

>On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 05:50:33PM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
>
>this problem also causes segmentation faults:
>
># ls áéíóú
>?????
>root@eiharne:/etc # ls Segmentation fault
>guest@eiharne:/mnt/raid0/0 $ la
>
>and then, kernel panics...
>
>  
>
Outsch !

I have absolutely no experience with that stuff, but I'm eagier to learn 
how it works.
When we get this "fixed", we could start thinking about different 
languages for DL.

cya
  Heiko

[Devil-linux-develop] [ devil-linux-Bugs-833638 ] update thttpd (security hole)

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Bugs item #833638, was opened at 2003-10-31 08:59
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Category: Package
>Group: all
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 9
Submitted By: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
>Assigned to: Heiko Zuerker (smiley73)
Summary: update thttpd (security hole)

Initial Comment:
http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] module loading

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Diego Torres wrote:

>On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 04:21:46PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:
>
>  
>
>>For what exactly do you need it?
>>Doesn't it make sense to write an approperiate init script which also 
>>loads the modules ?
>>    
>>
>
>for example alsa modules, or mdadm/raid0. and maybe, any kind of hardware i wish to load the modules for.
>
>  
>
The mountfs init script takes care of the raid modules.

For alsa we need a separate init script anyway, so just put the stuff 
for it in there.

Any other kinds of hardware, you need also to add to a init script.


cya
  Heiko

P.S. hangovers suck !

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] console fonts and encoding

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 05:50:33PM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:

this problem also causes segmentation faults:

# ls áéíóú
?????
root@eiharne:/etc # ls Segmentation fault
guest@eiharne:/mnt/raid0/0 $ la

and then, kernel panics...

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[Devil-linux-develop] console fonts and encoding

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

(i hope everybody has well configured his mail user agent, because i'm going to mess with accents :)

since i'm using different kinds of partition to mount data from (ntfs, vfat, reiserfs, smb), i've found some problems with character encoding.

i'd need some help to sort them out.

From a ssh session, on the standard ext2 partition:

 # cd /etc
 root@eiharne:/etc # touch áéíóú
 root@eiharne:/etc # ls -la áéíóú
 -rw-r--r--    1 root     root            0 Nov  2 00:42 ?????
 root@eiharne:/etc #

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] module loading

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 04:21:46PM -0500, Heiko Zuerker wrote:

> For what exactly do you need it?
> Doesn't it make sense to write an approperiate init script which also 
> loads the modules ?

for example alsa modules, or mdadm/raid0. and maybe, any kind of hardware i wish to load the modules for.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Abort ...

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >>>Would it work to get rid of our --prefix and it it go to the default
> >>>directory:  /usr/heimdal ?   What other programs would have to be
> >>>modified to look for it in that directory?
> >>>
> >>I actually don't like /usr/heimdal , since it would end up in this 
> >>folder on the CD, too.
> >>
> >>Check what I did with krb5 in the 1.0 version, that worked out pretty well.
> >>Then we would have to enable it specifically for the programs we want to 
> >>use it (i.e. ssh).
> >
> >OK, I see what you did with krb5 in 1.0, but I can't see where you did
> >anything in the other scripts (i.e. ssh) to find the krb5 libraries.
> >
> >I don't have any need for it, so I'll wait for you to fix it.  :-)
> >
> I thought I enabled it for a couple programs.....

You may have, but I don't see it.

Of course, I don't know what I'm looking for ...   :-)

> I guess my memories are fading. ;-)

That could be too.  :-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Abort ...

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

>>>>We need heimdal for krb5 support for other programs.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Which programs?  I turned off heimdal last night, and I successfully
>>>compile an ISO for the first time in about a week (mrproper, and new
>>>lfssystem).  I a little surprised that nothing aborted for lack of krb5
>>>includes/libraries.
>>> 
>>>      
>>>
>>Most of  them configure it dynamically.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm missing something here ... (see below)
>
>  
>
>>>Would it work to get rid of our --prefix and it it go to the default
>>>directory:  /usr/heimdal ?   What other programs would have to be
>>>modified to look for it in that directory?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I actually don't like /usr/heimdal , since it would end up in this 
>>folder on the CD, too.
>>
>>Check what I did with krb5 in the 1.0 version, that worked out pretty well.
>>Then we would have to enable it specifically for the programs we want to 
>>use it (i.e. ssh).
>>    
>>
>
>OK, I see what you did with krb5 in 1.0, but I can't see where you did
>anything in the other scripts (i.e. ssh) to find the krb5 libraries.
>
>I don't have any need for it, so I'll wait for you to fix it.  :-)
>  
>
I thought I enabled it for a couple programs.....
I guess my memories are fading. ;-)

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] module loading

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Diego Torres wrote:

>On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 07:07:13PM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
> 
>  
>
>>where is the correct place to put the modules i wish to load?
>>    
>>
>
>on debian, for example, modules are in /etc/modules, defined as one per line. 
>
>on dl there is only an alias file ¿?. Also, i haven't found anything on the documentation for the v1.0. The only mention about them is that there are modules on the initrd disk, and that they can be configured on the /etc/sysconfig/config.
>
>  
>
For what exactly do you need it?
Doesn't it make sense to write an approperiate init script which also 
loads the modules ?

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] module loading

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 07:07:13PM +0100, Diego Torres wrote:
 
> where is the correct place to put the modules i wish to load?

on debian, for example, modules are in /etc/modules, defined as one per line. 

on dl there is only an alias file ¿?. Also, i haven't found anything on the documentation for the v1.0. The only mention about them is that there are modules on the initrd disk, and that they can be configured on the /etc/sysconfig/config.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Abort ...

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >>We need heimdal for krb5 support for other programs.
> >
> >Which programs?  I turned off heimdal last night, and I successfully
> >compile an ISO for the first time in about a week (mrproper, and new
> >lfssystem).  I a little surprised that nothing aborted for lack of krb5
> >includes/libraries.
> >  
> Most of  them configure it dynamically.

I'm missing something here ... (see below)

> >Would it work to get rid of our --prefix and it it go to the default
> >directory:  /usr/heimdal ?   What other programs would have to be
> >modified to look for it in that directory?
> >
> I actually don't like /usr/heimdal , since it would end up in this 
> folder on the CD, too.
> 
> Check what I did with krb5 in the 1.0 version, that worked out pretty well.
> Then we would have to enable it specifically for the programs we want to 
> use it (i.e. ssh).

OK, I see what you did with krb5 in 1.0, but I can't see where you did
anything in the other scripts (i.e. ssh) to find the krb5 libraries.

I don't have any need for it, so I'll wait for you to fix it.  :-)

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] install-on-usb on 1.0.1?

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

>>>I just tried the new script on a NON-devfs PC, and it works.
>>>I recommend including it in 1.0.1 since it's not any worse,
>>>and has a chance of working on devfs.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>But then I won't have time to release it today, since I would have to 
>>start over.
>>    
>>
>
>You don't have to start over, since it only goes in the make dist 
>(it's not even on the CD).  Just kill your upload, update the new
>install-on-usb script and run  "make dist"  again.
>  
>
No it was more because I don't have much time today.

BUT I have trouble uploading files right now anyway, so I'll delay 1.0.1 
for another 1-2 days.
Let's see what comes up the next 2 days.

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] strip_debug function

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >>>btw: on the install-on-usb, why there is a nice?
> >
> >Actually, heavy USB usage really bogs down my machine,
> >so I was running the copy at the lowest priority.
> >
> Shouldn't you do the same with the "sync' command then ?

It's the cp command that locks up my system while it's running.

Does anyone else have that problem?  It's like all hardware with a lower
priority IRQ than USB won't work until it's done.  My USB mouse works
really slow, and my PS/2 keyboard is completely dead until the cp is
done.  It's really weird, because I can copy/paste characters into a
terminal window with the mouse while it's cp'ing, and the commands run
in the xterm, BUT the keyboard doesn't do anything until the cp is done.

I have a suspicion that it's a bug in my desktop kernel (Redhat 2.4.20).

 - BS

[Devil-linux-develop] module loading

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

where is the correct place to put the modules i wish to load?

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] install-on-usb on 1.0.1?

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >I just tried the new script on a NON-devfs PC, and it works.
> >I recommend including it in 1.0.1 since it's not any worse,
> >and has a chance of working on devfs.
> >
> But then I won't have time to release it today, since I would have to 
> start over.

You don't have to start over, since it only goes in the make dist 
(it's not even on the CD).  Just kill your upload, update the new
install-on-usb script and run  "make dist"  again.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] install-on-usb on 1.0.1?

[Diego T. <dt...@co...>]

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 11:00:54AM -0500, Bruce Smith wrote:

> Has anyone tested the changes I made to the install-usb-script?
> Are they good to go in 1.0.1 too?

i tried the latest version available on the cvs yesterday, and they work without problems. i sent an email yesterday night about it, and added a fdisk -l to show the partation table before asking the user.

> I haven't been able to test them yet because I haven't been able to 
> build a new ISO (or make dist) this week because of various aborts.

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Re: [Devil-linux-develop] Re: [Devil-Linux-discuss] one thing strange with iptables

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

>>>I made the setup changes to 1.0, which included adding the ipcalc
>>>program.  I have no way to test my changes on 1.0 since I don't have
>>>sources downloaded.  (or the time to compile it anyway)
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>You tested it under 1.1, correct ?
>>That should be enough
>>    
>>
>
>Yes, it works under 1.1.
>
>I did the changes twice since the setup script for 1.1 has an extra
>feature that 1.0 doesn't have (NIS).  I copy/pasted the changes and
>triple checked for typo's.  Hopefully it's good to go.
>
>I also did the same when adding ipcalc, since the build systems are now
>different.
>  
>
I just tested it, it works fine

Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] install-on-usb on 1.0.1?

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

>>Has anyone tested the changes I made to the install-usb-script?
>>Are they good to go in 1.0.1 too?
>>
>>I haven't been able to test them yet because I haven't been able to 
>>build a new ISO (or make dist) this week because of various aborts.
>>    
>>
>
>I just tried the new script on a NON-devfs PC, and it works.
>I recommend including it in 1.0.1 since it's not any worse,
>and has a chance of working on devfs.
>  
>
But then I won't have time to release it today, since I would have to 
start over.

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] install-on-usb on 1.0.1?

[Bruce S. <br...@ar...>]

> Has anyone tested the changes I made to the install-usb-script?
> Are they good to go in 1.0.1 too?
> 
> I haven't been able to test them yet because I haven't been able to 
> build a new ISO (or make dist) this week because of various aborts.

I just tried the new script on a NON-devfs PC, and it works.
I recommend including it in 1.0.1 since it's not any worse,
and has a chance of working on devfs.

 - BS

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] deleting downloads ?

[Heiko Z. <he...@zu...>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

>>>>should I delete the 1.0 downloads ?
>>>>The iptables "bug" could cause people to turn away from DL before we 
>>>>have 1.0.1 out.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Does the bug effect the standard firewall scripts we supply?
>>>
>>>If our FW scripts work, then I don't think it's that big of a deal.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes it should, because all "-m something" targets "should" be affected.
>>    
>>
>
>I've never seen the error before myself, and I just tried the standard
>firewall scripts on 1.1/1.2.8-iptables in VMware and didn't see any
>errors.  I think it only happens when checking for icmp types (which we
>don't do in any of our scripts).
>  
>
Ok that makes me feel better.
The i486 v1.0.1 is ready, I'll test your new setup in a few minutes.

cya
  Heiko

Re: [Devil-linux-develop] deleting downloads ?

[Bruce S. <bw...@ar...>]

> >>should I delete the 1.0 downloads ?
> >>The iptables "bug" could cause people to turn away from DL before we 
> >>have 1.0.1 out.
> >
> >Does the bug effect the standard firewall scripts we supply?
> >
> >If our FW scripts work, then I don't think it's that big of a deal.
> >
> Yes it should, because all "-m something" targets "should" be affected.

I've never seen the error before myself, and I just tried the standard
firewall scripts on 1.1/1.2.8-iptables in VMware and didn't see any
errors.  I think it only happens when checking for icmp types (which we
don't do in any of our scripts).

 - BS