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From: Alvin T. <al...@th...> - 2004-01-09 18:20:00
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the plural form of 'virus' is 'virus'. :P
-alvin
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 13:07, Per Westermark wrote:
> "Viruses are irrelevant. 'Hackers' are irrelevant. We are secure. All tha=
t
> we create is secure... Error detected: we have assimilated Microsoft"
> - The Borg.
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> On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, OROSZI Bal=E1zs wrote:
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> > Arnout Standaert wrote:
> > > >> simply: the problem with MS is not IE 6, the problem is that ther=
e
> > > is >> no IE 7 (or 6.5 at least)
> > >
> > > No, the problem _is_ with IE 6.0 too. It's implementation of web
> > > standards shows major holes, and require IE-specific workarounds by
> > > website developers. It can be bloody hard to design a website with HT=
ML
> > > and CSS, and make it look exactly the same in Mozilla and IE.
> >
> > I have to second that, as I HAVE made a webpage to be compatible with
> > both browser, AND even with Konqueror 2 (KDE 2's browser), and I must
> > tell you: it WAS hard. The most problems probably were with default
> > values (CSS), as some used this as default, so it looked good on them,
> > but the other needed explicit specification, otherwise it screwed up, s=
o...
> >
> > The MAIN problem is, however, I think is javascript. Just look at ANY
> > javascript code on the net: they most likely have
> > if (IE) {...}
> > if (NS) {...}
> > ...
> > so that's also a headache.
> >
> > I think it won't change for some time. Not as long as MS decides to be
> > as standards-incompatible as possible. Just look at Kerberos. Those ver=
y
> > useful MS "extensions" as they call it, do nothing more than forcing
> > developers to use and buy the MS version - as consumers use MS mostly.
> >
> > Oh, and one last thing: there is no such thing: "MS innovation". MS onl=
y
> > bought things, even DOS was bought. Whoever counts as a "threat" to MS
> > is usually bought by MS (assimilation). OpenSource luckily prevents
> > this: that's why I like it the most.
> >
> > --
> > Greetings,
> > Bal=E1zs
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Alvin Thompson
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