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From: Per W. <pw...@ia...> - 2004-01-09 18:08:00
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"Viruses are irrelevant. 'Hackers' are irrelevant. We are secure. All that
we create is secure... Error detected: we have assimilated Microsoft"
- The Borg.
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, OROSZI Bal=E1zs wrote:
> Arnout Standaert wrote:
> > >> simply: the problem with MS is not IE 6, the problem is that there
> > is >> no IE 7 (or 6.5 at least)
> >
> > No, the problem _is_ with IE 6.0 too. It's implementation of web
> > standards shows major holes, and require IE-specific workarounds by
> > website developers. It can be bloody hard to design a website with HTML
> > and CSS, and make it look exactly the same in Mozilla and IE.
>
> I have to second that, as I HAVE made a webpage to be compatible with
> both browser, AND even with Konqueror 2 (KDE 2's browser), and I must
> tell you: it WAS hard. The most problems probably were with default
> values (CSS), as some used this as default, so it looked good on them,
> but the other needed explicit specification, otherwise it screwed up, so.=
=2E.
>
> The MAIN problem is, however, I think is javascript. Just look at ANY
> javascript code on the net: they most likely have
> if (IE) {...}
> if (NS) {...}
> ...
> so that's also a headache.
>
> I think it won't change for some time. Not as long as MS decides to be
> as standards-incompatible as possible. Just look at Kerberos. Those very
> useful MS "extensions" as they call it, do nothing more than forcing
> developers to use and buy the MS version - as consumers use MS mostly.
>
> Oh, and one last thing: there is no such thing: "MS innovation". MS only
> bought things, even DOS was bought. Whoever counts as a "threat" to MS
> is usually bought by MS (assimilation). OpenSource luckily prevents
> this: that's why I like it the most.
>
> --
> Greetings,
> Bal=E1zs
>
>
>
>
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