RE: [Dev-C++] Longhorn

[Per W. <pw...@ia...>]

On Thu, 8 May 2003, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

> first revealed. But I will add this now: There is a ton of misinformation
> about Palladium out there on the Net ("It will require proprietary Microsoft
> changes to TCP/IP," "It won't run on Linux," and other similar claptrap),
> but most of that is completely untrue. People fear what they don't
> understand, but Palladium is about securing the PC, plain and simple."
>

Often when M$ is involved, they - and writers friendly with them - put out
a lot of the above messages. However, actual facts about how the
misinformation is misinformation is usually missing, i.e. M$ seldom
informs about how the concept will work without breaking havoc. If every
software is encrypted with something similar to SSL certificates, and a
private key for a company gets stolen - how will the systems then block
the bad guy from releasing nice viruses signed as commersial utilities. If
the original certificate is revoked - will that revoke your right to run
the original utilities?

Filtering of all information received on internet before you may see it.
Sounds very hard to do without breaking all existing protocols.

M$ talks a lot about protecting our documents, but a lot less about how an
end-user might create an own video and allow everyone to download it -
since the user has the copyright, he must be allowed to create a video
which allows more than one level of copying. But at the same time, he
should not be able to take an existing - commersial - video and make a lot
of copies of it. Most of tehse teknologies, when you read the fine print,
does break the end-user and small-developer rights. The companies always
says that you just have to get package xx and then you are home-free. The
courts and poloticians never think about the price of these packages and
licenses.

/Per W

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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Per Westermark [mailto:pw...@ia...]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 4:35 PM
> > To: Ioannis Vranos
> > Cc: dev...@li...
> > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Longhorn
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> > I don't think too many end users thinks of Palladium as
> > exciting. A lot of
> > smaller software developers will also get in trouble because
> > of Palladium.
> > If they can't afford to run Safe then they can't deliver
> > software. If M$
> > on the other hand gives away Palladium SDK for free, all
> > virus developers
> > will then support Palladium too, completely negating any use
> > of Palladium.
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> > /Per W
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> > On Thu, 8 May 2003, Ioannis Vranos wrote:
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dev...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On
> > Behalf Of iad929
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:12 AM
> > > > To: dev...@li...
> > > > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Longhorn
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> > > > To add something, This new version of Windows will be
> > called Trusted
> > > > Windows.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's Palladium (Trustworthy Computing) , not Longhorn
> > (which will be
> > > included in Longhorn). Palladium is a safe execution
> > environment. The
> > > software will run in safe and unsafe mode.
> > >
> > >
> > > "But future Windows versions promise to be even more
> > exciting. The next
> > > major desktop Windows release, code-named Longhorn, is due
> > in 2005 and will
> > > include Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing (Palladium)
> > architectural changes,
> > > as well as a new 3D video-driven user interface and a SQL
> > Server-based file
> > > system called Windows Future Storage (WinFS). The next
> > Windows Server
> > > release, code-named Blackcomb, will likely ship a few years
> > after Longhorn."
> > >
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> > > Ioannis Vranos
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