RE: [Dev-C++] [q] Does C++ promote bad programming?

[Shayne K. <err...@ne...>]

This might have been mentioned before, but just in case, here is my view
on C++.

First of all, C++ is a tool.  And as any tool, you use it appropriately
with the problem.  I think the first mistake new programmers make is the 1
tool fits all paradigm.  Though, this is not specific to C++.

The other thing I see is poor design.  This is easy to do in C++ since you
can implement your application however you want.  There is nothing
stopping you from not using classes/inheritence/etc.

Though, this brings me to another point, mostly about not using the tools
in C++ to its full advantage.  C++ has many useful tools, STL, Templates,
multiple inheritence, Strings, exceptions, etc.

And finally, take a C coder and make them write a C++ application.  I
remember when I did this and I just wrote my C++ applications as C.  They
compiled, but again, they didn't use C++ to its full advantage.
I think over all if you use good design and write a C++ app correctly, the
efficiency will be the same as writing it in C (for example).

If you want to learn C++, learn it.  But take an OO methods course like
intro to objects.

- shayne

http://www.shaynekasai.com

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Khalid El-Kary wrote:

> read about multiple inheritance below.
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev...@li...
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> > > Subject: [Dev-C++] [q] Does C++ promote bad programming?
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm interested in the opinions of the group.
> > >
> > > Is there anything in the C++ language which you feel inherently can
> > > contribute to new programmers developing bad programming
> > > habits?  Is C++ an
> >
> >
> >A programming language can't protect you from bad programming(!). For
> >example one may have the bad habbit to do:
> >
> >
> >
> >template<class T>
> >T add(T a, T b)
> >{
> >   T c1=a, T c2=b;
> >
> >   while(c1/a<2 && c2/b<2)
> >      c1++, c2++;
> >
> >    return a+b;
> >}
> >
> >
> >int main()
> >{
> >   int x=1, y=2;
> >
> >   int z=add(x,y);
> >}
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > inappropriate language for an introductory course, a course that is
> > > designed to introduce learners to programming concepts, not
> > > necessarily
> > > prepare them for a programming career?
> >
> >
> >In the contrary. C++ supports 4 paradigms and each one *well* and with
> >optimal space/time efficiency. For example, in the OO paradigm it supports
> >multiple inheritance. Few other languages do that (personally I do not know
> >any other but I assume there is).
>
> Python ... http://www.python.org
> >
> >
> >So for example if you want to teach all the concepts of Object Oriented
> >programming, C++ is a perfect candidate.
> >
> >
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