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From: Santiago <sa...@ho...> - 2003-03-31 00:19:09
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Firstable, the US is a very young country, so please talk to me about =
the last 50 years. Then you could tell me why it all became mainstream =
here. That should be very easy. Just that question.=20
By the way no C++, then no Dev C++. i.e. Bjarne is not American, but =
where did he go for his ideas to become mainstream and why? That's my =
point.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Theo Vassiloudis=20
To: Dev...@li...=20
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Keep cool...
=20
Pierre Raoul <pie...@wa...> wrote:=20
Hello,
> From: "Santiago"=20
> To: "Khalid El-Kary" ,
>=20
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:33:06 -0500
>
[...]=20
>So you could say that Americans have the best
> access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I=20
> know you might hate that, it's REALITY).
Already answered.
> Again, i don't know where you are but if in your
> country 2+2=3D5,=20
Oh, oh, not very kind, whatever country it may be.
> then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful.=20
And the conclusion is de facto weak and unfair.
> It all
> comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the=20
> world where
> lots of things you enjoy were invented, including =
computers,computer
> programming, and C++.=20
Some facts about computer:
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) and the calculating machine
- Charles Babbage (1792-1871) and the analytical engine (George and =
Edward Scheutz, 1853)=20
- Konrad Zuse (1910-1995) and the Z1 (1936), Z2 (1939) and Z3 (1941) =
machines
Some facts about computer programming, think about:
- Abu Ja'far Mohammed ibn M=FBs=E2 al-Khow=E2rizm (IXth)
- Ada Byron (1815-1852)
- Alan Turing (1912-1954)
- etc.
Some facts about C++:=20
- Bjarne Stroustrup isn't an American native, even if he lives in =
USA and works for an Amercican company (I don't know if he's an USA =
naturalized), cf. http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bio.html
- it's an ISO standard, with "I" for International, not "American"
What I mean is only: things are not so simple. Good ones things, =
people... on one (American ?) side, bad ones on the other. The world is =
a rainbow, and a long story. I wish it will not become a flat monochrome =
picture.
> So I also understand that it's human nature to hate
> the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone=20
> else will
> still want to be like the best.
BEST, bEst, besT, BEsT, be.........st, etc. I would like to know =
what you mean by "best". Have you any definition? criteria?
Anyway, how do you know what the other persons want, think, feel, =
like...? Ok, the world is a little village, but... as far as I know, not =
all the American ones think the same thing on every point. So I let you =
imagine about the world ones.
> Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county =
MUST until
> there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land!
So, so, so, who's the next on the list: Iran, North Korea, ... and =
Libya, Syria, Sudan, Pakistan... May be Turkey, France, Germany, Russia =
and China? Muhhh, may I know the criteria to be on the good side? We are =
"rational" people, we should be able to state these criteria, shouldn't =
we?=20
Nota: can we agree that
- name of people's God=20
- skin color
- GNP
- number of computers per person
- number and power of atomic bombs
- number and range of missiles
- etc.
are not very good criteria?
Ok, and what about Dev-Cpp?
Regards
Pierre
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I couldnt agree with you more man.=20
Now we must remember that there are forums where everybody can talk =
about such things. This mailing list is about programming and dev-cpp so =
i think that it would be better if the next time i checked my email i =
didn't find 30 or so emails from people arguing about war, a thing where =
no side is right or wrong.
Peace,
Theo Vasiloudis
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