Re: [Dev-C++] Re: learning c++, best book

[Santiago <sa...@ho...>]

So since .NET has nothing to do with C++, one doesn't need to learn C++ =
in order to learn .NET??
Also, Ioannis Vranos say: "Something very important. The next Windows =
version codenamed "Longhorn"
will provide *only* managed .NET APIs. MS is committed to provide .NET
APIs for all its products. "
So, does that mean win32API applications won't work on "Longhorn"?

San

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Carlos Garc=EDa del Monte=20
  To: dev-cpp-users-list=20
  Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Re: learning c++, best book


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  Teodorescu Cristian escribi=F3:=20

    Carlos Garc=EDa del Monte wrote:=20
    >I agree with Mrs Elizabeth, I have "win32 programming" by Rector =
and Newcomer, too. Since it I achieved to make programs=20
    >which work=20
    >=20
    why your programs does not use to work ?? :-)

  Why your programs did not use to work??:-)=20
  In my first experiments before know Rector's book, with other books =
more ore less outdated (I didn't find anything modern) or the =
explanations of the books were so bad done that I didn't understand them =
and I did not what I should, or I didn't find anything and I couldn't =
imagine how to write things, and for what I read in the books I did not =
understand the winapi reference, e.g., for creating a font, CreateFont =
Indirect, oh, you need logfont, what's that?, search some place, =
chosefont, what? see in other  place, and that what is it?, etc, and =
when I found the n-th function or structure I forgot what was the damned =
meaning of logfont, or what function I was trying to use.=20

     =20
    > (I'm still in experimantation with the programs), and nowI =
understand what means the things at the Win32API=20
    >programmer's reference.=20
    >Reliable's tutorial is a good place for c++ windows programming, =
but I would recommend take a sight in Foreger's tutorial=20
    >before (www.winprog.org or com)=20
    >Another book you'll hear is "programming windows" by Petzold, but =
it is only C and i more limited than Rector's (judging=20
    >=20
    I've read the petzold book is great book.=20
    "but it is only C "-take a closer look. API means procedural =
programing=20
    not oop . they are a collection of functions not a collection of =
classes.=20
    If you want  c++ use a wrapper i think MFC(VC ++ ) or from wxWindow =
are=20
    suitable.=20
    Best book does not exist every book has a weak chapter and a strong =
chapter.

  Of course, but see at the subject, it says learning c++, and he wants =
to learn it for windows programming. You can learn MFC, which is the MS =
library for C++ over windows api, so we can talk him about books for =
MFC, ...=20
  Do a search for books over MFC, I didn't search any of them because of =
the continuation of what I am saying, I cannot recommend any of them =
because I don't know any.=20

  ..., but I assume he wants either program with MinGW, and MFC is only =
for MSVisualC++, and MinGW has not it. I recommend him a book for =
Win32API, which is not C++, but starts with the "raw API", which I =
consider something recommendable to work, and if he won't be able to use =
MFC I feel that way he will be able to guess what will be going under =
classes and the sense of those classes, and if he needs to write a class =
of his own he will be able to do so. But in Petzold's book, for the TOC =
and what I read about it and saw in a claimed downloadable version of it =
found somewhere, it uses always C, while Rector's one at the second part =
starts using MFC and C++, so he'll can see that code and have a feel, =
and the code of the C part is organized in a such kind of way that is in =
a direction pointing to C++, is a C code with the taste of C++.=20

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    >with the TOC, since I haven't read Petzold's book)=20
    >=20
    i think you should read the book.=20
    in some chapters are much more than u expected

  Just yesterday I had a watch at some chapters of the downloadable one, =
and I found a couple of things. And few days ago I had a watch in th TOC =
of it at amazon and it has either other couple of things, like a chapter =
about files, a matter absent in Rector's book (this is perhaps the main =
fall of Rector).