RE: [Dev-C++] gotoxy

[Brian P. <br...@su...>]

In the end the whole issue boils down to this:  It is (and has always
been) considered in poor taste to use HTML formating when posting to
discussion forums using email.  There rarely are ever any written rules
to this effect; it has just always been understood.  Call it common
net-icate.  The reasons, the main reasons, people don't want HTML in the
emails are two (one stated already): bandwidth and, believe it or not,
there are still people using email clients that don't translate HTML
coding.  So, the word is, be nice and use text-only mode when posting. 
That's all.  No law, no punishment (usually), just be considerate.

I really like Dev-C++! (Sorry, I felt that I must say something about
the program since that is what this list is for :-)

b--

  
On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 06:43, Santiago Palmier Campos wrote:
> Well... I don't want to start a flame-war right now but...
> 
> We can 'take a look to your arguments' also:
> 
> 1 - Information can be send without HTML formatting, and yes, it will be
> fully understandable! Just think about C/C++ code, it's written in plain
> text and you do not need 'extra formatting' to understand it ;o)
> 
> 2 - While talking about text/document formatting we can say it is like text
> editting for coding: you can use graphical IDEs (like Dev-C++ / KDevelop) or
> you can use console programs (like aedit / vi). Should I stop using 'vi'
> because there is 'emacs'?
> 
> 3 - You're NOT sending e-mails to your friends, you're posting/requesting
> information on a mailing list.. I think it is a little bit different ;o)
> 
> 4 - Indentation, word-wrapping, '>' chars... If you do not care about how
> your text/document looks like, your mail program / editor will not do that
> job for you =8-O
> 
> 5 - 'Plain text vs HTML mail war' is quite similar to 'text editors vs text
> processors': Will you use M$ Word, WordPerfect or so to write a simple text?
> So 'Plain TEXT vs HTML mail war' is not to be solved by 'change your email
> client: it's your problem!' ;o)
> We are talking about what is needed: HTML is not needed here, I know it is
> fine and funny (web browsing is good and the web is really full of info),
> but it is not necessary in a mailing list... Even more, it can become
> annoying in certain cases!!!
> 
> BTW: Talking about virusses and so on... Do you really think that 'Melissa
> and its friends' will ask the user for confirmation on their actions?
> 
> Just my 2 cents!
> Santy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Wilson [mailto:bo...@ph...] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:22 AM
> To: Dev-C++ User Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] gotoxy
> 
> 
> > > > Here's my list of arguments:
> > > > 1) You're only sending an email here. Markups are completely
> redundant.
> > > > All this HTML only waste space and bandwidth.
> > > > 
> > > > 2) HTML mail with hardcoded fontnames look horrible in my Linux
> > > > emailclient.
> > > > 
> > > > 3) HTML mail can contain script viruses.
> > > > 
> > > > 4) HTML mail mess up the archives. When you try to see a message in
> the
> > > > archive, you see all the HTML code instead of the email!
> 
> Well, that all depends! What follows is better than what is above. 
> Here's my list of arguments: 
> You're only sending an email here. Markups are completely redundant. All
> this HTML only waste space and bandwidth. 
> HTML mail with hardcoded fontnames look horrible in my Linux emailclient. 
> HTML mail can contain script viruses. 
> HTML mail mess up the archives. When you try to see a message in the
> archive, you see all the HTML code instead of the email!
> 
> Let's look at your arguments one-by-one:
> Yes, I am sending an email, the purpose of which is to transmit information.
> Understanding is enhanced with good formatting which is allowed with
> automated html email programs such as Outlook or Outlook Express. The
> multiple ">" which appear in non html forwarded emails can not only inhibit
> comprehension, but also the inability of such an email does not have any
> word wrap which combined with the ">" can make the whole message damn near
> unintelligible. 
> This is the real problem, your environment or at least your email program. 
> It is certainly true that I or anyone else can build an html file which will
> do nasty things, but the programs that generate html enabled emails
> (Outlook, Outlook Express) will not activate a virus without the active
> involvement of the person who receives the email. 
> Again it is your environment that is the problem. 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob
> 
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