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From: Benjamin W. <ben...@ho...> - 2002-03-05 14:46:10
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>Bloodshed does carry a Pascal compiler on their web site. I think it's DevPascal 1.9. I am not sure about the old Turbo Pascal being available at Borland...although it may be...as I rarely check their museum section. I do know that you cannot purchase it anywhere except in the UK where I think it is available in limited quantities (I'm speaking of the TP 7.0 version).</P> <P>You can get a trial version of Delphi ( or Object Pascal as Jason mentioned ) from Borland I believe... version 6.0 (I think). I already own Delphi 6.0 Enterprise and I also have an outdated but fully functional (all documentation included) Delphi 1.0 version which I would be more than happy to part with if you would prefer that over DevPascal 1.9. However, I would personally recommend that you NOT start off with Delphi 1.0 and would recommend the DevPascal 1.9 over Delphi 1.0 to get you started.</P> <P>Anyway, best of luck.<BR><FONT face="Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif" size=2><BR>Benjamin Wheeless<BR></FONT><FONT face="Geneva, Arial, Sans-serif" size=2><STRONG>Network Systems - Delta Airlines, Inc.<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Atlanta, GA - USA 30320</STRONG></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>==============================</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows---- <DIV></DIV>From: "Jason Hardman" <JAS...@BT...> <DIV></DIV>To: "Dev-C++" <DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] (no subject) <DIV></DIV>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:29:22 -0000 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>I don't want to nay say something someone else has said, but I wouldn't recommend BASIC as a way of learning structured programming, because in essence BASIC is an unstructured language with very loose type checking. In the more recent incarnations there have been some flow control statements grafted on to the language, but I still wouldn't recommend it. After saying all that I will admit that my first experience of programming was ZX Spectrum Basic. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>The usual first language is Pascal. There's a Dev-Pascal environment available I believe (maybe I got the name wrong) at the Bloodshed website. Delphi is an extension of the Pascal language into an object oriented paradigm from Borland. You can also still get hold of the old Turbo-Pascal environment from the museum section of the borland comunity web-site (I think). <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Jason. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>From: Benjamin Wheeless <DIV></DIV>To: nic...@ya... ; dev...@li... <DIV></DIV>Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:58 PM <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] (no subject) <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Good morning, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Just wanted to chime in here. Jason's opinion on this topic is right along the same lines as mine. I totally agree that it is important to learn the fundamentals behind the structure of programming first. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>As I mentioned in an email to another person posting this same question (possibly the same person under a different email address)... I'd recommend something like Pascal or QBasic to start you off. They are outdated and are aimed at teaching programming from a console (DOS window) environment, but they will be excellent at "starting your journey" as Jason said, into the world of programming. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Back when I was in college, the first programming language that they taught there was Pascal. Then we progressed into C and C++ and then into learning more about Data Structures, Algorithms, Operating Systems, etc. Anyway, my point is...start with something small and work up... QBasic, BASIC, and Pascal are all languages that are great starting points. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Start there, with the basics....and feel free to email should you have any questions along the way. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Benjamin Wheeless <DIV></DIV>Network Systems - Delta Airlines, Inc. <DIV></DIV>Atlanta, GA - USA 30320 <DIV></DIV>============================== <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>----Original Message Follows---- <DIV></DIV>From: Nicole Mark <DIV></DIV>To: dev...@li... <DIV></DIV>Subject: [Dev-C++] (no subject) <DIV></DIV>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:01:56 -0800 (PST) <DIV></DIV>Pre-high schooler needs information on how to start learning programming <DIV></DIV>Thanks <DIV></DIV>--------------------------------- <DIV></DIV>Do You Yahoo!? <DIV></DIV>Yahoo! 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